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22 Nov 2015 15:58 |
Sarah A Haynes 1885 Salford, daughter of John P Haynes and Sarah Jane Cox. I have been unable to trace her to see if married or had any children. Many thanks
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22 Nov 2015 16:12 |
Is this her?
Baptism: 9 Mar 1887 St Philip, Salford, Lancashire, England Sarah Ann Haynes - [Child] of John Haynes & Sarah Born: 24 Oct 1884 Abode: 1 Bath St. Occupation: Core Maker Baptised by: G. C. Ranston Register: Baptisms 1883 - 1914, Page 60, Entry 473 Source: LDS Film 1408660
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22 Nov 2015 16:16 |
Other siblings are
John 1881 Lucy 1887 Helena 1889 Lily 1893 Walter 1895
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22 Nov 2015 16:17 |
?? 1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Temperance Street, Salford, Lancashire, England
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place John Heynes Head Married Male 38 1853 Core Maker Manchester, Lancashire, England Sarah Heynes Wife Married Female 34 1857 - Manchester, Lancashire, England Mary Heynes Daughter Single Female 15 1876 Winder In A Cotton Mill Manchester, Lancashire, England Emma Heynes Daughter Single Female 13 1878 Weaver Cotton Mill Manchester, Lancashire, England John Heynes Son Single Male 10 1881 Scholar Manchester, Lancashire, England Sarah A Heynes Daughter Single Female 6 1885 Scholar Salford, Lancashire, England Lucy Heynes Daughter Single Female 4 1887 - Salford, Lancashire, England Helena Heynes Daughter Single Female 2 1889 - Salford, Lancashire, England
Original has HAynes
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22 Nov 2015 16:20 |
Thank you greyghost I appear to of missed out two of the children.. thank you
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22 Nov 2015 16:21 |
1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription 32, Pine Street, Broughton, Salford, Lancashire, England
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place John P Haynes Head Married Male 48 1853 Core Maker Manchester, Lancashire, England Sarah Haynes Wife Married Female 44 1857 - Birmingham, Warwickshire, England John Haynes Son Single Male 20 1881 Stone Mason Manchester, Lancashire, England Sarah A Haynes Daughter Single Female 16 1885 Cloth Hooker Salford, Lancashire, England Lucy Haynes Daughter Single Female 14 1887 Tin Box Maker Salford, Lancashire, England Eleaner Haynes Daughter Single Female 12 1889 - Salford, Lancashire, England Lily Haynes Daughter Single Female 8 1893 - Salford, Lancashire, England Walter Haynes Son Single Male 6 1895 - Salford, Lancashire, England Joseph Haynes Brother Single Male 44 1857 Iron Works Labourer Manchester, Lancashire,
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Catherine
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22 Nov 2015 16:26 |
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Marriages Jun 1907 (>99%) COSGROVE John William Salford 8d 19 Scan available - click to view HAYNES Sarah Ann Salford 8d 19 Scan available - click to view KAY Annie Salford 8d 19 Scan available - click to view NAYLOR Leonard Davies Salford 8d 19
1911 Name: Annie Naylor Age in 1911: 27 Estimated birth year: abt 1884 Relation to Head: Wife Gender: Female Birth Place: Broughton Salford, Lancaster, England Civil Parish: Hellifield Search Photos: Search for 'Hellifield' in the UK City, Town and Village Photos collection County/Island: Yorkshire-West Riding Country: England Street address: Haw Grove Hellifield Leeds Marital Status: Married Registration district: Settle Registration District Number: 484 Sub-registration district: Long Preston ED, institution, or vessel: 3 Piece: 25740 Household Members: Name Age Leonard Davies Naylor 26 (carriage examiner) Annie Naylor 27 Edward Naylor 1
Married 3yrs 1 child living
A big difference in years but still another possible child born after 1911
Births Sep 1924 (>99%) Naylor Roy H Haynes Chorlton 8c 1089
To be sure this is all relevant you may have to buy a copy of the marriage certificate to see if father's name is correct.
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22 Nov 2015 16:32 |
Thank you Catherine.. should be able to continue this line now
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22 Nov 2015 16:35 |
This looks like her mother in 1911, now widowed and living with her 2 children Lily & Walter with her married daughter Helena Grange ( Helena probably Eleaner in 1901)
Mrs Sarah Jane Haynes
in the 1911 England Census Record Image View
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Name: Mrs Haynes [Sarah Jane Haynes] Age in 1911: 54 Estimated birth year: abt 1857 Relation to Head: Mother-in-law Gender: Female Birth Place: Birmingham, Staffordshire, England Civil Parish: Broughton Search Photos: Search for 'Broughton' in the UK City, Town and Village Photos collection County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street address: 47 Alexandra St Lower Broughton Salford Marital Status: Widowed Registration district: Salford Registration District Number: 465 Sub-registration district: Broughton ED, institution, or vessel: 8 Piece: 23984 Household Members: Name Age Percy Grange 27 Helena Grange 22 Arthur Askew 23 Lucy Askew 24 Stanley Askew 4/12 Sarah Jane Haynes 54 Lily Haynes 18 Walter Haynes 15 Ethel Grange 21 Gladys Bond 6
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22 Nov 2015 16:40 |
Looks like Leonard spent some time in Africa so that may be why there was a big gap between children:-
Name: Leonard Davies Naylor Birth Date: abt 1885 Age: 38 Port of Departure: Africa Arrival Date: 14 May 1923 Port of Arrival: Liverpool, England Ports of Voyage: Plymouth Ship Name: Aba Search Ship Database: Search for the Aba in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database Shipping line: British and African Steam Navigation Company Ltd Official Number: 141887 Address: 39 Symons Street, Broughton, Manchester
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Catherine
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22 Nov 2015 16:50 |
Would fit with above:-
Name: L D Naylor Gender: Male Age: 38 Birth Date: abt 1885 Departure Date: 19 Sep 1923 Port of Departure: Liverpool, England Destination Port: Iddo, Nigeria Ship Name: Elmina Search Ship Database: Search for the Elmina in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database Shipping line: African Steamship Co Official Number: 129183 Master: H E Minson Same address
Name: Leonard D Naylor Birth Date: abt 1885 Date of Registration: Jun 1968 Age at Death: 83 Registration district: Salford Inferred County: Lancashire Volume: 10f Page: 558
Maybe worth keeping on file in case relevant.
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Mark
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22 Nov 2015 16:52 |
It fits although it is his wife's family I am related to.
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Andrew
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22 Nov 2015 17:11 |
But Leonard Naylor Married Annie Kay?
So Sarah must have married John William Cosgrove?
Is this him with Sarahs brother John in 1911 claiming to be single?
John Haynes 30 Esther Maud Haynes 26 John Haynes 6 Annie Haynes 4 Elizabeth Haynes 2 Frank Haynes 1 John William Cosgrove 23
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22 Nov 2015 20:30 |
Andy is quite correct .......
from lancs bmd
http://www.lancashirebmd.org.uk/cgi/marrind.cgi?county=lancashire
Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1907
HAYNES Sarah A COSGROVE John W Salford Ascension Salford C29/6/65
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SylviaInCanada
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22 Nov 2015 20:48 |
John Cosgrove may have married again in 1913 ................
from freebmd ---
Marriages Sep 1913 (>99%) Cosgrove John W Hope Manchester 8d 509 Hope Ethel Cosgrove Manchester 8d 509
the lancs bmd version .................
Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1913
COSGROVE John W HOPE Ethel Manchester Register Office or Registrar Attended Archives+, Manchester Central Library MCR_RM/177/154
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Andrew
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22 Nov 2015 20:49 |
Looks like she remarried as well
Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Marriages Sep 1911 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Cosgrove Sarah A Barton I. 8c 1418a Haynes Sarah A Barton I. 8c 1418a Walker John Barton I. 8c 1418a
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22 Nov 2015 20:50 |
well, well, well!
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22 Nov 2015 20:58 |
did they divorce .............. which would have been very expensive and unusual at that time
or are they both bigamists??
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Andrew
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22 Nov 2015 21:00 |
Divorce record, so remarried legally!
Name:John William Cosgrove Gender:Male Spouse Name:Sarah Ann Cosgrove Spouse Gender:Female Petition Year:1910 Co-Respondent 1:John Walker Type of Record:Husband's petition for divorce Divorce Court File Number:942
Cause was her adultery with John walker, which she had admitted.
There is a copy of the marriage cert with the papers which confirms this is the correct Sarah Haynes.
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22 Nov 2015 21:08 |
possible birth ............. assuming birth would be registered in same area as marriage
Births Dec 1911 (>99%) Walker Edward Haynes Barton I. 8c 1171
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