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Could anyone please help me? My grt grt grandfather was John Patrick O'Brien b.1812 Ireland, he m. Elizabeth McGiff b.1814 Ireland, they had 6 children: all b. in Newport, Monmouth.
John Bryan b.1836
Sarah Bryan b.1841 - d.1907 Cardiff
Michael Bryan b.1844
Catherine Bryan b.1848
Thomas Bryan b.1850 - d.1895 Newport, Monmouth
Charles Bryan b.1854

Note the change of surname of the kids.
I have managed to follow up both Sarah and Thomas family, I also have the census's for Sarah from 1851, 1871, 1881, 1891 and 1901 and for her brother Thomas from 1971, 1881 and 1891.
When Thomas m.in 1870 (to Elizabeth James) his surname was O'Brien.

Both Thomas and his parent stayed in the St Woolos area of Newport Monmouth,
Sarah m. in 1868 in Newport Monmouth (m. Wm. Curtis) on the 1881 census they were living in Cardiff.

I would like to get Sarah and Wm. Curtis m. cert, but am unsure what surname she'd have used.

Also if anyone can help find anymore info on her siblings.

Many thanks in advance.

ShelleyRose.

ShelleyRose ...This is the marriage




William Curtis

Wales, Monmouthshire, Parish Registers







Name William Curtis
Event Type Marriage
Event Date 16 Apr 1868
Event Place Newport, Holy Trinity, Monmouthshire, Wales
Spouse's Name Sarah Bryan *****

Also the GRO ref numbers you'll need to order a copy:

Marriages Jun 1868 (>99%)
Bryan Sarah Newport Mon. 11a 223
Curtis William Newport Mon 11a 223

1861

Name: Michael Bryan
Age: 16
Estimated birth year: abt 1845
Relation: Stepson
Mother's name: Elizabeth Jones
Gender: Male
Where born: Newport, Monmouthshire, Wales
Civil Parish or Township: Newport St Woollos
Ecclesiastical parish: St Paul
Town: Newport
County/Island: Monmouthshire
Country: Wales
Street address: View image
Condition as to marriage: View image
Education: View image
Employment status: View image
Occupation: View image
Registration district: Newport
Sub-registration district: Newport
ED, institution, or vessel: 20
Household schedule number: 195
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 4021
Folio: 15
Page Number: 4
Household Members:
Name Age
John Jones 30 ( engine smith)
Elizabeth Jones 43
Elizabeth A Jones 2
Michael Bryan 16
Catharine Bryan 15
Thomas Bryan 12
Charles Bryan 8

1851 for helpers' reference:

Sarah Bryan
in the 1851 Wales Census

Name: Sarah Bryan
Age: 10
Estimated birth year: abt 1841
Relation: Daughter
Father's name: John Bryan
Mother's name: Elizabeth Bryan
Gender: Female
Where born: St Woollos, Monmouthshire, Wales
Civil Parish or Township: St Woollos
Ecclesiastical parish: St Paul
Phillimore Ecclesiastical Parish Maps:
View related Ecclesiastical Parish
Town: Newport
County/Island: Monmouthshire
Country: Wales
Registration district: Newport
Sub-registration district: Newport
ED, institution, or vessel: 1f
Piece: 2452
Folio: 152
Page Number: 13
Household schedule number: 45
Household Members:
Name Age
John Bryan 39
Elizabeth Bryan 37
Sarah Bryan 10
Catharine Bryan 3
Michael Bryan 7
Thomas Bryan 1
Sarah Mc Gift 67

Elizabeth with second husband in 1861, and children:

EDIT: - Sorry, Catherine, didn't notice you'd already posted that.

Catharine Bryan
in the 1861 Wales Census
Name: Catharine Bryan
Age: 15
Estimated birth year: abt 1846
Relation: Stepdaughter
Mother's name: Elizabeth Jones
Gender: Female
Where born: Newport, Monmouthshire, Wales
Civil Parish or Township: Newport St Woollos
Ecclesiastical parish: St Paul
Town: Newport
County/Island: Monmouthshire
Country: Wales
Street address: View image
Condition as to marriage: View image
Education: View image
Employment status: View image
Occupation: View image
Registration district: Newport
Sub-registration district: Newport
ED, institution, or vessel: 20
Household schedule number: 195
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 4021
Folio: 15
Page Number: 4
Household Members:
Name Age
John Jones 30
Elizabeth Jones 43
Elizabeth A Jones 2
Michael Bryan 16
Catharine Bryan 15
Thomas Bryan 12
Charles Bryan 8

Deaths Jun 1856 (>99%)
Bryan John Newport 11a 113

Marriages Sep 1857 (>99%)
Eastaway Eliza Newport M 11a 288
xxxxx Jones John Newport M. 11a 288
xxxxx Obrian Elizabeth Newport M 11a 288
Richards David Henry Newport M 11a 288

.................so father died and mother remarried.

Michael:


Marriages Sep 1869 (>99%)
O'BRYAN Michael Gloucester 6a 446
WIGGILL Ann Maria Gloucester 6a 446



Annie O'brien
in the 1881 England Census
Name: Annie O'brien
Age: 29
Estimated birth year: abt 1852
Relationship to Head: Wife
Spouse: Michael O'brien
Gender: Female
Where born: Gloucestershire, England
Civil Parish: Openshaw
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street address: 15 Wharf St
Marital Status: Married
Registration district: Chorlton
ED, institution, or vessel: 71
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 3909
Folio: 69
Page Number: 41
Household Members:
Name Age
Michael O'brien 37 - born Newport, Mon.
Annie O'brien 29
John T. O'brien 11
Thomas G. O'brien 10
Elizabeth O'brien 8
Catherine O'brien 6
Richard O'brien 2
Anne O'brien




??


Ann Obrien
in the 1871 England Census
Name: Ann Obrien
Age: 20
Estimated birth year: abt 1851
Relation: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: St Marks, Gloucestershire, England
Civil Parish: South Hamlet
County/Island: Gloucestershire
Country: England
Registration district: Gloucester
Sub-registration district: South Hamlet
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Household schedule number: 185
Piece: 2620
Folio: 22
Page Number: 38
Household Members:
Name Age
Ann Obrien 20
John Obrien 1
Thomas G Obrien 3 Months

Annie's a widow by 1891:


Annie M Obrien
in the 1891 England Census
Name: Annie M Obrien
Age: 38
Estimated birth year: abt 1853
Relation: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Gloucestershire, England
Civil Parish: Openshaw
Ecclesiastical parish: St Clement
Town: Manchester
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street address:
Registration district: Chorlton
ED, institution, or vessel: 84
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 3179
Folio: 50
Page Number: 46
Household Members:
Name Age
Annie M Obrien 38
Thomas Obrien 20
Elizabeth Obrien 18
Catherine Obrien 14
Richard Obrien 11
Sarah E Waters 21


Possible death of Michael??

Deaths Jun 1887 (>99%)
O'Brien Michael 42 Chorlton 8c 448

http://newspapers.library.wales/view/3396821/3396826/42/

(just wondering about that 1856 Death, above has aged 9, if same one)

Chris :)

http://newspapers.library.wales/search/advanced

Edits (Find My Past has Burial image for above, May 20th, as John Brien, aged 9, Abode. Union Workhouse)


Monmouthshire Marriages Transcription (Find My Past)

First name(s) WILLIAM (occ. Mariner)
Last name(s) CURTIS
Marriage year 1868
Marriage day 16
Marriage month Apr
Place "NEWPORT, HOLY TRINITY"
Spouse's first name(s) SARAH
Spouse's last name BRYAN
Bride's age Full
Groom's age Full
Bride's father first name(s) John (occ. Labourer)
Bride's father's last name Bryan
Groom's father's first name(s) William (occ. Mariner)
Groom's father's last name Curtis
Parish "Newport, Holy Trinity"
County Monmouthshire
Country Wales
(wits, John Holman Dunn, Elizabeth Caroline Fuller. Residence at Time, Countybella ? for both)

There are several deaths in Newport 1861-71 which could be Elizabeth's daughter Elizabeth A Jones, who's listed on 1861 census.

A tree on ancestry has this for Michael

Birth: Abt 1844 - Monmouth (Monmouthshire), Wales
Marriage: Jul 1869 - Gloucester, Gloucestershire, England
Death: Apr 1887 - Lancashire, England
Parents: John Bryan, Elizabeth Bryan
Spouse: Ann Maria Wiggill

Children:-
John Thomas O'brien 1870–
Thomas George O'brien 1871–
Elizabeth Jane O'Brien 1873–
Catherine Ann O'brien 1876–1970
Richard O'brien 1880–
Anne O'brien 1881–

Just a possibility for Charles - though I haven't found him in 1871 or 1881, nor with a wife after 1884:

Marriages Mar 1884 (>99%)
Morgan Jesse Newport M 11a 278
O'Brian Charles Newport M 11a 278
Powell Elizabeth Newport M. 11a 278
PROTHEROE Rebecca Newport Mon 11a 278

Possible for Catherine?

Marriages Dec 1871 (>99%)
Blake Mary Pontypool 11a 270
BRIAN Catherine Pontypool 11a 270
Davies Thomas Pontypool 11a 270
Lane James Pontypool 11a 270

or this one????

Wales, Monmouthshire, Parish Registers
Name William John Strickland
Event Type Marriage
Event Date 05 Jan 1867
Event Place Newport, Holy Trinity, Monmouthshire, Wales
Spouse's Name Catherine Obrian

(looks to be below, for 1869)

Chris :)

O'BRYAN Michael WIGGILL Ann Maria Gloucester Gloucester St Catherine 1869 27 No 1 35

http://ww3.gloucestershire.gov.uk/bmd/MainMenu.aspx

Michael & Ann's marriage and censuses in 1871, 1881 and 1891 posted above - Annie widowed by 1891 - and possible death of Michael in 1887..

Oh wow thank you all so much for all this info, it's so much to take in, I've had so much trouble trying to find this family, as the name O'Brien changes so often, I'm so grateful to you all for your help.

Will spend some time now going through all this information.
Many Thanks again to you all.

ShelleyRose. :-) :-)

Elizabeth O'Brien F 27-31 Ireland
John O'Brien M 5 Monmouthshire
Michael O'Brien M 3 Monmouthshire
Sarah O'Brien F 0 Monmouthshire
Sarah Mcgiff F 50-54 Ireland
Patrick O'Brien M 34-38 Ireland

1841 Census St Woolos.
Living Potters St.
Eliz.mother is with them and John Pat.is down as Patrick

Strickland marriage looks good

1871
Name: Catherine Stickland
[Catherine Strickland]
Age: 25
Estimated birth year: abt 1846
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: William Stickland
Gender: Female
Where born: Newport, Monmouthshire, Wales
Civil Parish: St Woollos
Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Trinity
Town: Newport
County/Island: Monmouthshire
Country: Wales
Registration district: Newport
Sub-registration district: Newport
ED, institution, or vessel: 20
Household schedule number: 142
Piece: 5346
Folio: 67
Page Number: 33
Household Members:
Name Age
William Stickland 25
Catherine Stickland 25
William C Stickland 3
Valentine G Stickland 1

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1881
Name: Catherine Strickland
Age: 35
Estimated birth year: abt 1846
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: William Jno. Strickland
Gender: Female
Where born: Newport, Monmouth, Wales
Civil Parish: St Woollos
County/Island: Monmouthshire
Country: Wales
Street address: 24 Watch House Parade
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education: View image
Employment status: View image
Registration district: Newport
Sub registration district: Newport
ED, institution, or vessel: 19
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 5264
Folio: 24
Page Number: 41
Household Members:
Name Age
William Jno. Strickland 35 (Fitter) born: Canterbury, Kent, England
Catherine Strickland 35
William C. Strickland 13
Valentine Geo. Strickland 11
Philip Hy. Strickland 8
Kate A. L. Strickland 5
Beatrice Ely Strickland 1
.........................................................

Name: Catherine Strickland
Estimated birth year: abt 1846
Registration Year: 1889
Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar
Age at Death: 43
Registration district: Newport
Parishes for this Registration District: View Ecclesiastical Parishes associated with this Registration District
Inferred County: Monmouthshire
Volume: 11a
Page: 137
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1891 after her death:-

Name: William J Strickland
Age: 45
Estimated birth year: abt 1846
Relation: Head
Mother's name: Elizabeth Strickland
Gender: Male
Where born: Canterbury
Civil Parish: St Woollos
Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Trinity
Town: Newport
County/Island: Monmouthshire
Country: Wales
Street address: View image
Condition as to marriage: View image
Education: View image
Employment status: View image
Occupation: View image
Registration district: Newport
Sub registration district: Newport
ED, institution, or vessel: 20
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 4374
Folio: 37
Page Number: 19
Household Members:
Name Age
William J Strickland 45
William C Strickland 23
George Strickland 21
Phillip H Strickland 19
Kate A S Strickland 16
Beatrice Strickland 11
Charles E Strickland 8
Elizabeth Strickland 69 (mother)
Edward J Strickland 44 (brother - Blind)
Eliza A Strickland 34 (sister)
.............................................................................

Name: William John Strickland
Estimated birth year: abt 1845
Registration Year: 1897
Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep
Age at Death: 52
Registration district: Newport
Parishes for this Registration District: View Ecclesiastical Parishes associated with this Registration District
Inferred County: Monmouthshire
Volume: 11a
Page: 124