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Member Since: January 2003 Posts: 13,478 Send Message	rootgatherer	Report	30 Mar 2017 17:34
	Maybe? 1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription High Street, Sevenoaks, Kent, England Alfred Tapsell Head - Male 35 1836 - Kent, England Julia Tapsell Wife - Female 32 1839 - Kent, England Caroline Tapsell Daughter - Female 8 1863 - Kent, England Alfred G Tapsell Son - Male 7 1864 - Kent, England Howard G Tapsell Son - Male 4 1867 - Kent, England Richard Tapsell Son - Male 2 1869 - Kent, England John Box Lodger - Male 18 1853 - Kent, England John's occupation on the image is "Journeyman Baker". Place of birth on image is Bexley.
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Member Since: December 2009 Posts: 13,419 Send Message	Maddie	Report	30 Mar 2017 17:41
	??????????? Eliza Box England, Kent, Parish Registers Name Eliza Box Event Type Burial Event Date 04 Nov 1855 Event Place Otford, Kent, England Citing this Record "England, Kent, Parish Registers, 1538-1911," database with images, Eliza Box England and Wales Death Registration Index 1837-2007 Name Eliza Box Event Type Death Registration Quarter Oct-Nov-Dec Registration Year 1855 Registration District Sevenoaks County Kent Event Place Sevenoaks, Kent, England Volume 2A Page 209 Line Number 33
Member Since: February 2004 Posts: 191 Send Message	John	Report	30 Mar 2017 17:42
	rootgatherer I think that is John Box. The Tapsells are also related.
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Member Since: January 2003 Posts: 13,478 Send Message	rootgatherer	Report	30 Mar 2017 17:47
	That's good John but I'm not seeing him on later census!
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Member Since: February 2004 Posts: 191 Send Message	John	Report	30 Mar 2017 17:48
	JoonieCloonie I cannot find John Box in the GRO birth index.
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Member Since: February 2003 Posts: 29,988 Send Message	+++DetEcTive+++	Report	30 Mar 2017 17:49
	Maddie - the Eliza Box who died in 1885 can't be the mother if she had children in 1859. GRO free search BOX, ELIZA 15 GRO Reference: 1855 D Quarter in SEVENOAKS UNION Volume 02A Page 209
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Member Since: December 2009 Posts: 13,419 Send Message	Maddie	Report	30 Mar 2017 17:52
	Name: John Box Gender: Male Christening Date: 26 May 1821 Christening Place: Brasted, Kent, England Phillimore Ecclesiastical Parish Map: View this parish Father: John Box Mother: Sarah Box Search Photos: Search for 'Brasted' in the UK City, Town and Village Photos collection detective - just posed in case relevent somewhere anearlier child maybe
Member Since: February 2003 Posts: 29,988 Send Message	+++DetEcTive+++	Report	30 Mar 2017 17:54
	John - compulsary registration of births didn't come in to effect until 1873. Unitl then it was up to the Registrar to visit the villages to ask if there had been any births and to persuade the parents to register them. Many parents didn't bother or only had their children baptised so that there was an 'offical' record. John Box Gender: Male Baptism Date: 6 Jun 1852 Baptism Place: Chevening,Kent,England Father: John Box Mother: Eliza FHL Film Number: 0992460, 0992461
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Member Since: January 2003 Posts: 13,478 Send Message	rootgatherer	Report	30 Mar 2017 18:01
	There was also a son James. Perhaps he died before the 1861 census? Name: Mother's Maiden Surname: BOX, JAMES SPICKETT GRO Reference: 1854 S Quarter in SEVENOAKS UNION Volume 02A Page 303 EDIT Yes, he died Aged 3 months Deaths BOX, JAMES 3 GRO Reference: 1854 D Quarter in SEVENOAKS UNION Volume 02A Page 233
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Member Since: December 2009 Posts: 13,419 Send Message	Maddie	Report	30 Mar 2017 18:02
	johns sister and parents Name: Faith Box Gender: Female Baptism Date: 1824 Baptism Place: Brasted, Kent, England Father: John Box Mother: Sarah FHL Film Number: 1469315 1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Chevening Street, Chevening, Sevenoaks, Kent, England First name(s) Last name Gender Age Birth year Birth place John Box Male 60 1781 -------- a carpenter Transcription Sarah Box Female 60 1781 - Transcription Faith Box Female 15 1826 Kent, England 1851 Chevening Village, Chevening, Sevenoaks, Kent, England Learn more Print transcription View image Household Members First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place Multon Wearrener Head Married Male 22 1829 Ag Lab Chevening, Kent, England Transcription Sarah Wearrener Wife Married Female 31 1820 Wife Of Ag Lab West Grinstead, Sussex, England Transcription Mary Wearrener Daughter - Female 1 1850 Daur Chevening, Kent, England Transcription John Box - - Male 70 1781 Carpenter Sussex, England Name Faith Box Event Type Burial Event Date 12 May 1842 Event Place Chevening, Kent, England Age 18 Birth Year (Estimated) 1824 Volume 4
Member Since: December 2009 Posts: 13,419 Send Message	Maddie	Report	30 Mar 2017 18:16
	Harriett Box Gender Female Christening Date 21 Jun 1818 Christening Place BRASTED, KENT, ENGLAND Father's Name John Box Mother's Name Sarah Citing this Record "England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975," database, FamilySearch
Member Since: February 2004 Posts: 191 Send Message	John	Report	30 Mar 2017 18:23
	Thank you for everybodies help. Unless I have missed it though have we found the mother Eliza after 1861?
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Member Since: November 2013 Posts: 4,445 Send Message	JoonieCloonie	Report	30 Mar 2017 20:07
	John are you thinking of daughter Eliza in 1871? Name: Eliza Box Age: 11 Estimated birth year: abt 1860 Relation: Inmate ED, institution, or vessel: Sevenoaks Union Workhouse daughter Ann Box was in the same institution
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Member Since: January 2003 Posts: 13,478 Send Message	rootgatherer	Report	30 Mar 2017 20:19
	Don't think Eliza Snr. has been found after 1861. As her youngest children were in the workhouse in 1871, it would appear likely that she had died. She herself may have been in the workhouse or even remarried and left the girls in the workhouse until she could offer them a home with her.
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Member Since: February 2004 Posts: 191 Send Message	John	Report	31 Mar 2017 09:06
	I was thinking of Eliza 1823. I cannot find a death, re-marriage or census record for her. She goes from Eliza Box in 1851 to Eliza Chattenton (check spelling) in 1861 after her husband dies in 1859.
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Member Since: September 2015 Posts: 5,278 Send Message	AustinQ	Report	31 Mar 2017 09:43
	Posting these as a 'just in case': 1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription West Hill Odd Fellows Arms, Dartford, Kent, England Richard Sayers Head - Male 49 1822 - Kent, England Olive Sayers Wife - Female 38 1833 - Kent, England James Taylor Boarder - Male 26 1845 - Kent, England Robert Lincoln Boarder - Male 42 1829 - Essex, England Thomas Chattenton Boarder Married Male 39 1832 Labourer Bexley Kent, Eliza Chatterton Boarder Married Female 52 1819 Maidstone, Kent, --------------------------------------- 1881: (now appears not married) First name(s) Thomas Last name Chattenden Relationship Inmate Marital status Single Gender Male Age 55 Birth year 1826 Occupation General Laborer Birth town Greenwich Birth town as transcribed GREENWICH Birth county Kent House name Dartford Union Workhouse Street Dartford Parish Dartford County Kent Registration district Dartford Archive reference RG11 Piece number 868 Folio 105 Page 7 ----------------------------------------- Don't have time to stay around this morning, but will have another look later.
Member Since: February 2004 Posts: 191 Send Message	John	Report	31 Mar 2017 10:23
	AustinQ I wonder if that is her, birthplace is wrong and year slightly out. I can find n/t of a marriage between Thomas and Eliza, so maybe they weren't married. Just as a matter of interest The Odd Fellows Arms (still there) and the Dartford workhouse are about 100 yards from each other.
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Member Since: February 2004 Posts: 191 Send Message	John	Report	31 Mar 2017 10:26
	Maddie your post at 16:53 yesterday re George Box you state that he was also a baker in 1871. I had a look at the image and it says occupation messenger in ? factory.
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Member Since: December 2009 Posts: 13,419 Send Message	Maddie	Report	31 Mar 2017 10:54
	1871 he is a bakers journeyman 1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Eastbourn Terrace, Lee, Lewisham, London, England First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place William James Galloway Head - Male 37 1834 - Middlesex, England Transcription Phoebe Galloway Wife - Female 35 1836 - Middlesex, England Transcription Phoebe Galloway Daughter - Female 9 1862 - Middlesex, England Transcription William Thomas Galloway Son - Male 7 1864 - Middlesex, England Transcription Archibald Renton Galloway Son - Male 5 1866 - Middlesex, England Transcription Louisa Janet Galloway Daughter - Female 4 1867 - Middlesex, England Transcription Edith Marion Galloway Daughter - Female 2 1869 - Middlesex, England Transcription Frank Kennard Galloway - - Male 0 1871 - Kent, England Transcription Hannah Hayman Servant - Female 34 1837 - Middlesex, England Transcription Louisa Green Servant - Female 60 1811 - Middlesex, England Transcription Emma Wodin Servant - Female 21 1850 - Kent, England Transcription George Wheeler Servant - Male 30 1841 - Surrey, England Transcription Henry Moore Servant - Male 26 1845 - Norfolk, England Transcription George Bartram Servant - Male 17 1854 - Middlesex, England Transcription George Box Servant - Male 15 1856 - Kent, England
Member Since: February 2004 Posts: 191 Send Message	John	Report	31 Mar 2017 11:40
	Hello Maddie This is the post I was looking at from yesterday. I agree that this post today is more likely. 1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Addington Place, Lambeth, London, England Learn more Print transcription View image Household Members First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place Walter Brown Head - Male 29 1842 - Hampshire, England Transcription Emily Brown Wife - Female 32 1839 - Hampshire, England Transcription Alfred Charles Boarder - Male 24 1847 - Surrey, England Transcription Henry W Smith Boarder - Male 27 1844 - Middlesex, England Transcription George Box Boarder - Male 18 1853 - Kent, England
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