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Hi
I wonder if someone could find the reason why

The story goes Henry Marriott born 1875 Corby Lincolnshire birth sates Mother Elizabeth Marriott
On the Census from 1861 she is a widow
Elizabeth Whitfied married Charles Marriot 1851 Swinstead Lincs
Father John Winfield and Thomas Marriott

I have had a contact re Charles Marriott that he went to America with his Father and Mother and all thier children what would the reason be

I,have found a Immigration to America 1853 Ship Cannutticat for the Marriott Family
Thomas Marriott age 40 and Ann Maariott aged 40 and the rest of thier children including Charles Marriott born 1831
So why would all the Family go
Please
Olive

But if Charles married in 1851 it doesn't make sense that he emigrated to America in 1853 with his family and no wife.

This is I guess the 1851 census for the Charles Marriot with parents

Name: Charles Marrott
[Charles Marriott]
Age: 20
Estimated birth year: abt 1831
Relation: Son
Father's name: Thomas Marrott
Mother's name: Ann Marrott
Gender: Male
Where born: Rippingale, Lincolnshire, England
Civil Parish: Rippingale
Phillimore Ecclesiastical Parish Maps:
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County/Island: Lincolnshire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability:

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Registration district: Bourn
Sub-registration district: Corby
ED, institution, or vessel: 11d
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 87
Piece: 2095
Folio: 297
Page Number: 21
Household Members:
Name Age
Thomas Marrott 47
Ann Marrott 42
Charles Marrott 20
Thomas Marrott 17
William Marrott 16
Joseph Marrott 8
Ann Marrott 9 Mo

Name: Charles Marriott
Registration Year: 1851
Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep
Registration district: Bourne
Parishes for this Registration District: View Ecclesiastical Parishes associated with this Registration District
Inferred County: Lincolnshire
Volume: 14
Page: 395
Records on Page:
Name
Charles Marriott
Elizabeth Whitfield

Not seeing the family in the US 1860 census.

MARRIOTT, HENRY WHITFIELD Order
GRO Reference: 1875 M Quarter in BOURN Volume 07A Page 327


Henry Marriott
in the 1881 England Census
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Name: Henry Marriott
Age: 7
Estimated birth year: abt 1874
Relationship to Head: Son
Mother: Elizabeth Marriott
Gender: Male
Where born: Corby, Lincoln, England
Civil Parish: Corby
County/Island: Lincolnshire
Country: England
Street address: The Terrace
Education:

Employment status:

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Occupation: Scholar
Registration district: Bourn
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 3195
Folio: 16
Page Number: 26
Household Members:
Name Age
Elizabeth Marriott 50
Charles Ed. Marriott 18
William Geo. Marriott 14
Mary Jane Marriott 10
Henry Marriott 7

Some of the above children are in the workhouse 1871 with Elizabeth, who is listed as a widow

Name: Charles Marriott
Age: 9
Estimated birth year: abt 1862
Relation: Inmate
Gender: Male
Where born: Corby, Lincolnshire, England
Civil Parish: Bourne
Ecclesiastical parish: Lincoln
Town: Bourne
County/Island: Lincolnshire
Country: England
Registration district: Bourn
Sub-registration district: Bourn
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Household schedule number: 119
Piece: 3314
Folio: 75
Page Number: 26


? MARRIOTT, MARY JANE - Order
GRO Reference: 1870 J Quarter in BOURN Volume 07A Page 329

Charles Marriott
mentioned in the record of Sarah Ann Marriott
Name
Charles Marriott
Sex
Male
Wife
Elizabeth
Daughter
Sarah Ann Marriott
Other information in the record of Sarah Ann Marriott
from England Births and Christenings
Name
Sarah Ann Marriott
Gender
Female
Christening Date
25 Mar 1855
Christening Place
Creeton, Lincoln, England
Father's Name
Charles Marriott
Mother's Name
Elizabeth

Charles Marriott
mentioned in the record of Eliza Emma Marriott
Name
Charles Marriott
Sex
Male
Wife
Elizabeth
Daughter
Eliza Emma Marriott
Other information in the record of Eliza Emma Marriott
from England Births and Christenings
Name
Eliza Emma Marriott
Gender
Female
Christening Date
12 Jul 1857
Christening Place
SWINSTEAD, LINCOLN, ENGLAND
Father's Name
Charles Marriott
Mother's Name
Elizabeth

Hi
I agree it doesn't make sence
But all the children are mentioned on the Immigration off 1853
Maybe the father was convicted

The was a contact who gave the info that the Family had gone to America

Thankyou for looking for me
Olive

I think it's likely that Charles went, and that either he returned to father the children or that Elizabeth went on to have the children my someone else, but kept her married name.

Thank you for your reply,s
Olive

Maybe Thomas Marriott was deported for a reason ??
Olive

More likely to be economic emigration I think ?

Did anyone else find the Immigration of 1853 to America
Thankyou
Olive

Not found it Olive do you know what site the record was on?

EDIT it's on Familysearch. the child Ann died in 'Scilly' I think it says


Joseph Mariott
New York Passenger Lists
Name Joseph Mariott
Event Type Immigration
Event Date 1853
Event Place New York City, New York, United States
Gender Male
Age 11
Birth Year (Estimated) 1842
Birthplace Gt Britain
Ship Name Connecticut

Just for info, people were absolutely not deported to the USA in the 1800s, or really anytime.

The US was an independent country after 1776 and certainly did not accept other countries' deportees!


I would think it quite possible that Charles abandoned Eizabeth - or perhaps at least equally possible, that she had left him for another man.

In 1861 she was a widow with young children

Elizabeth Marriott 30
Jane E Marriott 8
Sarah H Marriott 6
Eliza E Marriott 4

but 20 years later, she was still a widow, with children born after 1861

Elizabeth Marriott 50
Charles Ed. Marriott 18
William Geo. Marriott 14
Mary Jane Marriott 10
Henry Marriott 7


do you know whom any of the children, especially the younger ones, named as their father on their own marriage certificates?


malyon posted baptism records for Sarah 1855 and Eliza 1857

but I am not seeing matching birth records

None of the children at all seem to have been registered, at least as Marriott.

ah, wait, here's the last one, then working backward

MARRIOTT, HENRY mother WHITFIELD
GRO Reference: 1875 M Quarter in BOURN Volume 07A Page 327

MARRIOTT, MARY JANE mother blank
GRO Reference: 1870 J Quarter in BOURN Volume 07A Page 329

(the two Nyx posted earlier)


but

No William Marriott c1867
No Charles Marriott c1863
etc.


Elizabeth may have had a partner at the time the older children were born and they were registered in his name?

but checking some of the possible births with the right given names (e.g. Charles Edward Hubbard) against the new GRO index showing surnames, none shows Whitfield as the mother (or Marriott, in case she was being a little liberal with the truth)

Seems possible they simply weren't registered, since it wasn't compulsory until 1874.

Hi everyone
I found the Immigration on Family Search org
Then yesterday in the local library I found it on Ancestry co uk
I have the Marriage for -------
Henry Marriott born 1875 Bourn --Death 1958 Nottingham is whom I have been searching

On his marriage to Catherine Bowman 1919 Nottingham
Henry Marriott Widower father ---Marriott deceased
Catherine Elizabeth Bowman Spinster Father William Bowman Deceased

But Henry was married to Louisa Grainger born 1879 --1915
Marriage 1902 Nottingham
But I havnt sent for the marriage

Have found all his children of both Marriages

I have been searching his Mother born Elizabeth Withfield born 1831 Swinstead Lincs
You have all been helpful even found Elizabeth Marriott in the Local Lincolnshire Papers

I wonder how you all manage to find the break down of the
Births and Marriages

Thankyou all agian
Olive

Olive Jean, there is a new search facility at the GRO

(I didn't know until someone explained it clearly here!)

https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/indexes_search.asp

Pick births.

The problems is ... you have to have a surname, with at least an approximate spelling.

When you know who the mother was but not how the birth was registered, this is no help.

It also only allows searches in five-year periods. The easiest way to do it is start with, say, 1850 +/- 2 years. Then go to 1855 +/- 2 years. That way you have covered 1848 to 1852 and 1853 to 1858.

But ... you also have to specify Female or Male each time.

So it gets a bit tedious and slow.

For marriages, just Freebmd, no?

Or did you mean other info from the certificate or parish record? That, I don't know ...

I would get Henry 1875's first marriage certificate out of curiosity.

'Henry Marriott Widower father ---Marriott deceased'

edited - sorry, I misread that first as his father being Henry Marriott.

So father was '--- Marriott' i.e. no name.

He didn't know his father's name and it is 99% certain it was not Marriott. :-)

a possible
1841
Name: Elizabeth Wetfield
Age: 11
Estimated birth year: abt 1830
Gender: Female
Where born: Lincolnshire, England
Civil Parish: Swinstead
Hundred: Beltisloe
County/Island: Lincolnshire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

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Registration district: Bourne
Sub-registration district: Corby
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 622
Book: 30
Folio: 9
Page Number: 9
Household Members:
Name Age
John Wetfield 50
Elizabeth Wetfield 50
Jane Wetfield 15
Elizabeth Wetfield 11 ---------------------
Sarah Wetfield 9
Eliza Wetfield 6
John Wetfield 3