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Sellers Family in Ireland

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Pamela

Pamela Report 2 Jun 2017 15:20

I am searching for details of birth and the parents/grandparents of Clara Annie Sellers who married David Holland in Salford Lancashire on 26th January 1907. Clara's Father William Sellers was a Railway Porter and given as deceased at time of marriage above. Clara's Mother was Elizabeth born in Dublin Ireland. Clara died in 1928 aged 47. and is buried in Pendlebury Lancashire. I have also been unable to establish the maiden name of Clara's Mother Elizabeth
Thank You Pam

AustinQ

AustinQ Report 2 Jun 2017 15:47

For reference:

1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
8 Maurice St Pendlebury, Pendlebury, Lancashire, England

David Holland Head Married Male Coal Miners Holer 33 1878 Pendleton Lancashire
Clara Holland Wife Married Female - 30 1881 Manchester Lancs
Bridget Holland Mother Widow Female - 70 1841 Co Galway Ireland Resident
Gladys Holland Daughter - Female - 3 1908 Swinton Lancs
Frederick Holland Son - Male - 2 1909 Swinton Lancs
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1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
46, Ford Street, Salford, Lancashire, England

Elizabeth Sellars Head Widow Female 38 1863 Laundress Ireland
Clara Sellars Daughter Single Female 19 1882 Folder & Sewer Manchester, Lancashire,
Fanny Power Sister Widow Female 29 1872 - Ireland
Martha Power Niece Single Female 7 1894 - Salford, Lancashire, England
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1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Bridgewater Street, Salford, Lancashire, England

William Seller Head Married Male 44 1847 Railway Porter Derbyshire, England
Elizabeth Seller Wife Married Female 28 1863 - Ireland
Clara P Seller Daughter - Female 9 1882 - Manchester
Frances Power Boarder Single Female 24 1867 Domestic Servant Ireland

Pamela

Pamela Report 2 Jun 2017 15:56

Thank you for your speedy response the census details are correct. would like to find a marriage for Clara's Parents but don't know if that was in Ireland or England? Kind regards Pam

AustinQ

AustinQ Report 2 Jun 2017 15:56

Her sister's child looks to be illegitimate :

Birth:
POWER, MARTHA (no mother's maiden name)
GRO Reference: 1893 S Quarter in SALFORD Volume 08D Page 145

AustinQ

AustinQ Report 2 Jun 2017 15:59

Perhaps they never married?

POWER, CLARA (no mother's maiden name)
GRO Reference: 1881 S Quarter in PRESTWICH Volume 08D Page 391

Pamela

Pamela Report 2 Jun 2017 17:21

Thank you this will give me some more options to explore. Kind Regards Pam

malyon

malyon Report 2 Jun 2017 17:58

Elizabeth Sellers
England and Wales Death Registration Index 1837-2007
birth:
1863

death:
1922
Salford, Lancashire, England

Pamela

Pamela Report 2 Jun 2017 23:08

Thank you for the information
Pam

Pamela

Pamela Report 14 Jun 2017 10:33

I Have been unable to find David Holland born approx. 1878 Pendlebury Lancashire in the 1901 1891 or 1881 census. In the 1911 census his Mother is living with them and named as Bridget (widow) I have his marriage certificate to Clara Annie Sellers and his Fathers name is William Holland. Any help with this would be gratefully received. Have also not found a marriage for a William Holland to a Bridget.Thanks Pam

AustinQ

AustinQ Report 14 Jun 2017 11:05

Hello Pam- I have to go out shortly, but could you let us know the witnesses from the marriage certificate, William's occupation, and David's address.

Not seeing Bridget's death.

Pamela

Pamela Report 14 Jun 2017 12:21

Williams occupation was Coalminer. At the time of David's marriage on 26th January 1907 in Salford registry office he lived at 20 Rutland Street Salford. I am unable to give you names of witnesses on marriage certificate until Friday as I am away from home until then and don't have it with me, but I had written the other details The address of David's Wife at time of marriage was 16 Hazel Street Salford. Thank you for your help. Pam

AustinQ

AustinQ Report 15 Jun 2017 16:51

I've had a quick look but I can't see David or Bridget before the 1911 census- I'm nudging this up in case anyone else can spot something.

Just to recap- we are looking for David and Bridget before 1911:

In 1911 David is listed as 33 (b1878 Pendleton, Salford)

His mother Bridget is living with him. She is listed as 70 (born 1841 County Galway).

Can anyone see a possible death for Bridget- perhaps under different first name or different surname?

Pamela

Pamela Report 15 Jun 2017 17:19

Since my last post I found a David Holland in the 1901 census with correct birth year and place of birth and occupation living with wife 'Emile' . We know from 1911 census that he had only been married to Clara Annie Sellers for 4 years , but I cant find a marriage for David to Emilie or a death for her before 1907. ? Thanks Pam

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 15 Jun 2017 17:30


HOLLAND, DAVID HUDSON
GRO Reference: 1878 S Quarter in MANCHESTER Volume 08D Page 329

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 15 Jun 2017 17:35

Maybe not the above (although ties in with DOB on the 1939 register). This seems to be the marriage of that David's parents and the Christian names are wrong

Marriages Dec 1863 (>99%)
CROSDALE Roger Manchester 8d 169 Scan available - click to view
Holland Charles Manchester 8d 169 Scan available - click to view
Hudson Hannah Manchester 8d 169 Scan available - click to view
Whatmough Sarah Manchester 8d 169 Scan available - click to view

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 15 Jun 2017 17:40

Can you post the 1901 census please Pamela?

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 15 Jun 2017 17:47

??????

1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
103, Culcheth Lane, North Manchester, Prestwich, Lancashire, England

William H Holland Head Widower Male 59 1842 Rubber Works Manager Horwich, Lancashire, England
David Holland Son Single Male 26 1875 Railway Carriage Washer Manchester, Lancashire, England

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 15 Jun 2017 17:51


1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Culcheth Lane, Newton, Prestwich, Lancashire, England

Willm Hy Holland Head Married Male 49 1842 Manager India Rubber Works Horwich, Lancashire, England
Mary Holland Wife Married Female 51 1840 - Newton, Lancashire, England
Lily Holland Daughter Single Female 19 1872 Cotton Cuber Levenshulme, Lancashire, England
David Holland Son Single Male 17 1874 Labourer Rubber Works Levenshulme, Lancashire, England
Rose Holland Daughter - Female 14 1877 Cotton Mill Levenshulme, Lancashire, England

Pamela

Pamela Report 15 Jun 2017 18:12

The birth certificate for David Holland with parents Charles and Hannah (Hudson) is not the correct one for the David I am looking for, as I have this certificate (9th July 1878)
The occupation for Charles is Provision dealer but my David and his Father were both coalminers and my David's Father is William and his Mother Bridget. On the 1901 census it gives David's wife as ' Emilie ' born 1876 Barston Nottingham. Thanks for helping Pam

AustinQ

AustinQ Report 15 Jun 2017 18:18

OK- well found- didn't see that entry on FMP. This looks to be Emilie in 1911- birth Barnston on original:

1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
The Elms Dunstable Street Ampthill, Ampthill, Bedfordshire, England

Mary Ann Bowden Head Single Female Boarding House Keeper 66 1845 Beds Ampthill
Charles Hatchinson Spiller Boarder Married Male Insurance Broker 70 1841 Highgate Msex
Elizabeth Spiller Boarder Married Female Dressmaker 50 1861 Tuxford Notts
Emilie Holland Boarder Widow Female Milliner 32 1879 Barneton Notts