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Ahhh Choccy!!

You've got it !! Well Done :-)

Thank you for your time!! :-)

Re "the blue cross" I am guessing that it signifies some doubt about the veracity of 1869.....

This is the only possible birth

Births Mar 1861 (>99%)
Bisp Elizabeth Clifton 6a 135 Scan available - click to view

I'd say December 1859 is odds on - but buying this would confirm it.

Jude

Samuel Smart
England, Bristol Parish Registers
Name
Samuel Smart
Event Type
Marriage
Event Date
22 Apr 1843
Event Place
Pucklechurch, St Thomas a Becket, Gloucestershire, England
Gender
Male
Marital Status
Single
Father's Name
Samuel Smart
Spouse's Name
Pamela Carter
Spouse's Residence Place
Pucklechurch, St Thomas a Becket, Gloucestershire
Spouse's Gender
Female
Spouse's Marital Status
Single
Spouse's Father's Name
George Carter

Thank you for your input !

This gives me a lot of info to go on and to collate and print for my folders :-)

Next to find Samuel & Pamela's other children :-S

Mary Jane Smart
Daughter
England and Wales Census, 1851
birth:
1849
Westerleigh, Gloucestershire
residence:
1851
Westerleigh, Gloucestershire, England
father:
Samuel Smart
mother:
Pamela Smart
other:
Elizabeth Smart, Sarah Ann Smart

Ruth Smart
England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
christening:
28 December 1851
Westerleigh, Gloucester, England
residence:

Westerleigh, Gloucester, England
father:
Samuel Smart
mother:
Pammela

not finding a birth for Alfred w with parents Samuel and pamela

this could be another child

SMART, ANN  HARRIET  
CARTER  

GRO Reference: 1846  D Quarter in OXFORD  Volume 16  Page 89

but could have died

Deaths Dec 1847   (>99%)

SMART
 Ann Harriet
 
 Oxford
 16
58

there is a mary jane born 1847 but died same year

SMART, MARY  JANE  
CARTER  

GRO Reference: 1847  M Quarter in CHIPPING SODBURY  Volume 11  Page 227

Deaths Mar 1847   (>99%)

SMART
 Mary Jane
 
 Chipg Sodby
 11
210

perhaps they had mary jane 1849 and named her after the baby that died

Thank you for your help Malyon !

from the new GRO Index .............


Remembering that the GRO digitisation is unable to distinguish between week, month and age for many children, so 1 could = 1 week, 1 month OR 1 year. GRO knows the problem and is "working on it" ;-)

SMART, ANN HARRIET 1
GRO Reference: 1847 D Quarter in OXFORD Volume 16 Page 58


I'm not sure what to think of this one ........

SMART, MARY JANE 9
GRO Reference: 1847 M Quarter in CHIPPING SODBURY Volume 11 Page 210

IF it is the same one, her birth was registered in the March quarter, which could actually be for a birth from mid-November to last day in March. Mothers were officially allowed 6 weeks in which to register a child, although those who forgot or neglected to do registered often changed the birth date to later than it really happened.

so .................. does 9 = 9 weeks, 9 months OR 9 years??????

That is I think a problem that could only be solved by buying the death certificate..

Has the GRO record for Elizabeth Bisp's birth registration been posted??


Just in case ............

BISP, ELIZABETH mmn TYLER
GRO Reference: 1861 M Quarter in CLIFTON Volume 06A Page 135

SMART Mary Jane
Date: 28 Feb 1847
Age: inf
Parish: Westerleigh

http://www.bafhs.org.uk/local-burials/south-gloucestershire

(South Gloucestershire Burials Index)

Chris :)