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I'm trying to get a bit of family background on 2 siblings who became Nursing sisters and who both received the Royal Red Cross. Sorry that below is a bit long winded, but didn't want you repeating stuff already found.

www.araltas.com and google books "Irish Landed Gentry" both give their parents as -

Myles Joseph D'Exeter Jordan and Mary Louisa Graham who married in 1862 at Dublin pro Cathedral (Irish Catholic records FMP). Myles was a Physician and Surgeon in Castlebar, Co Mayo. Found on 1901 census in Castlebar with some of their children. Myles died 1903 Castlebar, probate to Mary and Mary died 1904 probate to Charles Jordan - presume son Charles)

((Beware - Myles Joseph D'Exeter Jordan's cousin Myles Jordan married Margaret Graham, sister of Mary and they were producing children around the same time)).

Children of Myles Joseph and Mary as shown in the references above are as follows. Records have them variously with and without the De Exeter/D'Exeter and variations

William Stephen bap.1863 Balla died 1899 aged 36 Castlebar. Also a Physician and Surgeon and J.P. Bachelor

Margaret Basilia 1864 - have found nothing more on her BUT a Margaret Anne is baptised 1864 Castlebar and I wonder if this is her. There is nothing more on her either that I've found.
Can you find anything else?

Mary Paulina - bap. 1866 Castlebar. Died 1884 aged 17 Castlebar

Myles Constantine - bap 1868 Castlebar. Died 1908 aged 40 Belmullet, Mayo. A Medical Practitioner and Bachelor.
Where is he in 1901?

Louisa Kate - bap. 1870 Castlebar. Married 1903 Dublin pro Cathedral to James Joseph Loughlin. 4 children born 1905-1909 Castlebar and Ballinrobe. Died 1941 aged 71 Dublin. Found 1901 at home with family and 1911 Ballinrobe.
What happened to her children? (Donal, (? a bachelor), registered her death from same address as her)

Edmond Slevin - bap. 1874 Castlebar. The link below shows his marriage 1905 aged 30 when a Chief Constable in Eastern Cape, South Africa to Edith Margaret Nankivell aged 19 http://1820settlers.co.uk/genealogy/settlerbrowsemarrs.php?name=JORDAN
Can you find him going out there? Chief Constable seems pretty good going! Did they have children?
ancestor.co.za shows a name only, 1917 entry for him (which I believe can only be a death record from the info about the site) but can that record be found any other way? Anything further at all please?

Celia Ellen - bap 1873 Castlebar. 1901 - Hospital nurse Dublin. 1910 - www.kingscollections.org/nurses/j-l/?page=13 shows her initial registration as a nurse with a London address in 1910 with a history of private nursing London/Cardiff/London up to that date.
Where is she 1911? She died 1938 Gosport RD Hampshire. Probate to sisters Florence and Mary (see below)

Agnes Maud - bap 1875 Castlebar. She is on the 1901 Irish census at home with family as Maud Agnes.
What happened next? Have found nothing else.

Charles Joseph - bap. 1877 Castlebar. Possibly died 1948 aged 71 Castlebar a Bachelor. Is this him?? Shown as Senile and a Labourer. Age fits, but nothing to say for sure on certificate and not an uncommon name. He is on the 1901 census at home with the family, but what after that?

Henry James - bap. 1880 Castlebar. What happened next? I've found nothing else

Florence Mina - born 1882 Castlebar. 1901 census at home with family. Gazetted 1914 when appointed a Sister in Queen Alexandra's Royal Naval Nursing Service on probation and again 1932 when awarded RRC. Died 1948 Gosport RD, Hampshire. Probate to Mary. Am contacting QARNNS Archives.

Mary Penelope - born 1884 Castlebar. Also joined QARNNS, but when - and was awarded RRC 1938. Died Gosport RD 1952. Probate to Westminster Bank.

Ages 1901 census for siblings are all a bit on the younger than they are as per birth records.

Various entries found Thom's Irish almanac for the Doctors both in their visiting capacities and as court witnesses and in the Ireland Dog Registers grant of licences up to 1904 latest.

Don't think i've done too badly for a first real foray into anything more than the Irish census, but I know you'e all itching to get hunting for anything to help. Thanks

"William Stephen bap.1863 Balla died 1899 aged 36 Castlebar. Also a Physician and Surgeon and J.P. Bachelor
Where is he in 1901?"

In his grave? Was 1901 what you meant to type, GG?

See, I just knew I'd mess it up - have removed !!

You've given us a huge amount to get our teeth into, GG!

Donal's surname was given as O'Loughlin at baptism:

Donal Graham O'Loughlin
in the Ireland, Select Catholic Birth and Baptism Registers, 1763-1912
Name: Donal Graham O'Loughlin
Birth Date: Jan 1908
Baptism Date: 5 Feb 1908
Baptism Place: Castlebar, Mayo, Ireland
Father: James J O'Loughlin
Mother: Luie Jordan


Donal Graham Loughlin
in the Ireland, Civil Registration Births Index, 1864-1958
Name: Donal Graham Loughlin
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1908
Registration district: Castlebar
Birth Country: Ireland
Volume: 4
Page: 94
FHL Film Number: 101072



So - - - -

Donal Oloughlin
in the Canadian Passenger Lists, 1865-1935
Name: Donal Oloughlin
Gender: Male
Age: 21
Birth Year: abt 1908
Birth Country: Ireland
Date of Arrival: 4 May 1929
Vessel: Empress of Scotland
Port of Arrival: Quebec, Canada
Port of Departure: Southampton, England

Place of birth: Castlebar. He was intending to reside permanently in Canada.


???

Donal G Oloughlin

in the Detroit Border Crossings and Passenger and Crew Lists, 1905-1963
Name: Donal G Oloughlin
Gender: Male
Age: 25
Nationality: Irish
Birth Date: abt 1908
Birth Place: Castlebar IL <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Arrival Date: 12 Mar 1933
Arrival Place: Detroit, Michigan, USA
Departure Contact: Mother Laura Oloughlin (could be Louisa, or Louie)
Mother: Laura Oloughlin

There seems to be a Canadian address for his mother: 60 St Clair [Something], Ontario.
He was going to Vancouver.

Departures show his UK address as 8 Alhambra Road, Southsea, Hants., age 21 and engaged in Farming. If the death I found in Dublin for his Mother in 1941 is correct, then they must have returned at some point and she must have gone out to Canada sometime. Thanks for the starter AG

Donal's arrival in Canada:

Donal G O'Loughlin
in the U.S., Index to Alien Arrivals at Canadian Atlantic and Pacific Seaports, 1904-1944
Name: Donal G O'Loughlin
Age: 21
Birth Year: abt 1907
Arrival Year: 1928 (1929 on image)
Arrival Country: USA


Also on that record is an Alice O'Loughlin, aged 15. Maybe just a coincidence.

What were Donal's siblings names?

siblings that I found up to 1911 were Mary Muriel 1905, Lilian Elizabeth 1906, Dermott Valentine 1909 (he was the Ballinrobe registration). There could have been more but ? unlikely as Louisa would have been 41 in 1911

Dermot V . Loughlin
in the UK and Ireland, Find A Grave Index, 1300s-Current
Name: Dermot V . Loughlin
Birth Date: 1909
Death Date: Oct 1912
Cemetery: Ballinrobe Cemetery
Burial or Cremation Place: Ballinrobe, County Mayo, Ireland
Has Bio?: N

Looks like Donals sister Lilian went to Canada too, at some time:

Lillian Elizabeth Loughlin
in the UK, Incoming Passenger Lists, 1878-1960
Name: Lillian Elizabeth Loughlin
Birth Date: abt 1907
Age: 28
Port of Departure: Montréal, Québec, Canada
Arrival Date: 23 May 1935
Port of Arrival: Southampton, England
Ports of Voyage: Montreal
Ship Name: Montrose
Shipping line: Canadian Pacific Line
Official Number: 145919


Maybe her going back again to Canada after the war? No age given.

Miss L E Loughlin
in the UK, Outward Passenger Lists, 1890-1960
Name: Miss L E Loughlin
Gender: Female
Departure Date: 26 Jun 1946
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England
Ship Name: Britannic
Shipping line: Cunard White Star Limited
Official Number: 162316
Master: R B

Travelling on Troop Transport. Welfare worker; last UK address CWL Canteen, Bicester.
Intended country of future permanent residence: Middle East. {Middle East of Canada, presumably?}

Lilian was also baptised as O'Loughlin:

Ireland, Select Catholic Birth and Baptism Registers, 1763-1912
Name: Lilian Elizabeth O'Loughlin
Father: James J O'Loughlin
Birth: 12 Dec 1906
Baptism: 20 Dec 1906 - Castlebar, Mayo

Lilian a Hairdresser arrived in 1935 with Louie Kathleen aged 64 a Housekeeper, and Mary Louise aged 24 a Clerk, address c/o Post Office, Brighton so perhaps there was another child c1911

EDIT - a Mary Loughlin birth reg 2.5.1911 Ballinasloe RD mmn Jordan. Original has Ballinrobe RD and correct parents i.e. Louie nee Jordan and James Loughlin Bank Manager

Mary Louise Loughlin
in the Ireland, Civil Registration Births Index, 1864-1958
Name: Mary Louise Loughlin
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1911
Registration district: Ballinrobe
Birth Country: Ireland
Volume: 4
Page: 31
FHL Film Number: 101074

Going back to the Jordans:

Myles Constantine Dlyster Jondan
in the Web: Ireland, Census, 1901
Name: Myles Constantine Dlyster Jondan
Gender: Male
Age: 33
Birth Year: abt 1868
Relation to Head: Head
Residence Date: 31 Mar 1901
Townland/Street: Meddlicot Street
District: Derryloughan
County: Mayo
Household Members:
Name Age
Myles Constantine Dlyster Jondan 33 - "Phys & Surg, JP"
Henry Jondan 20 - visitor - no employment - that'll be Henry James 1880 ?
Annie Philips 18 - servant

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"Margaret Basilia 1864 - have found nothing more on her BUT a Margaret Anne is baptised 1864 Castlebar and I wonder if this is her. There is nothing more on her either that I've found.
Can you find anything else?"

This is the Civil Birth Registration:
Margaret Ann Jordan born 1 Dec 1864 at Castlebar, Co Mayo
Parents: Myles Jordan s and Mary Jordan, Formerly Graham
Registered by father, Myles Jordan, Surgeon

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1865/03580/2319539.pdf

A tree on Ancestry gives her name as Margaret Ann Basilia.(No proof offered)

It says she married Michael Hogan, and died 19/05/1947 at 11 North Villas, St Pancras, London.

Presumably this death:

Deaths Jun 1947 (>99%)
Hogan Margaret 82 Pancras 5d 355

No sign of the marriage on FreeBMD - I expect it was in Ireland, though I don't see it there either.

The tree says they had 3 children:
Irene (1901 - 68); Marie Josephine A (1902 - 1983) - both girls born Dublin.
Jack (1903 - ).

No Image available on irishgenealogy.ie

Party 1 Name Michael Hogan
Party 2 Name Margaret Jordan

Date of Event 15 January 1902
Group Registration ID 1633171
SR District/Reg Area Dublin North

Irene Hogan
in the 1911 England Census
Name: Irene Hogan
Age in 1911: 9
Estimated birth year: abt 1902
Relation to Head: Daughter
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Dublin, Dublin, Ireland
Civil Parish: St Pancras
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street address: 10 North Villas, St Pancras, London N W
Registration district: St Pancras
Registration District Number: 9
Sub-registration district: East St Pancras
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Piece: 716
Household Members:
Name Age
Michael Aloysims Hogan 48 - insurance clerk, born Kilkenny
Margaret Hogan 45 - born Castlebar
Irene Hogan 9
Marie Josephine Hogan 7
John William Hogan 6


Married 10 years (Margaret, that is). Three children, all living.
All the children born Dublin.

Thanks for joining in Glasgow Lass. I'm pretty sure Margaret Basilia has to be Margaret Anne. If that is the right marriage on Ancestry then she would have been just 37, so a chance of child/ren I suppose.
EDIT - found by AG - thanks.

I do have the birth reg's, all apart from William as before Registration - sorry didn't say, thought the baptisms would be enough. Having said that, Florence 1882 and Mary 1884, haven't found baptisms.

Thanks for the help so far.

If Henry has been found 1901, then time I look for him in 1911

In OP you state you found 4 births for Louisa Kate and James Loughlin.

I found 5
Muriel Mary: 24 March 1905. Born at Ellison Street, Castlebar
Lilian Elizabeth 25 Dec 1906 Ditto
Donal Graham 24 Jan 1908 Ditto
Dermott Valentine 14 Feb 1909 Ballinrobe ( dob plus middle name... LOL)
Mary Louise 2 May 1911 Ballinrobe ( born after 1911 census date)

Hi GL - yes, following AG's post re a passenger list entry, I found a birth in May 1911 for a Mary Louise Jordan - posted @1738

AG's post @ 1714 also mentions an Alice O'Loughlin aged 15 on the same list in 1928 when Donal arrives in USA/Canada