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greyghost

greyghost Report 2 Aug 2017 16:41

OP says Robert Ambrose was listed as a Railway Plate layer (deceased) at the 1887 marriage of Elizabeth, so above Robert wouldn't fit unless for some reason he was said to have died (maybe because of the second family Nyx suggested!).

The census that show him have him as a Joiner/Carpenter.

The marriage of daughter Mary Ann also 1887 shows him as a contractor deceased

greyghost

greyghost Report 2 Aug 2017 16:49

The Crimean War was 1853-1856

1911 census
England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
5 Whittington St Devonport, Devonport, Devon, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Occupation Age Birth year Birth place
Robert Ambrose Head Married Male Crimean Veteran 78 1833 Devon Plymouth
Louisa Ambrose Wife - Female - 59 1852 Devon Plymouth

Said to have been married 20 years 5 children born and 5 living

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Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Marriages Sep 1891 (>99%)
Ambrose Robert Plymouth 5b 446
Bulley Louisa Plymouth 5b 446
Cailes Priscilla Jane Plymouth 5b 446
Hunt Francis Plymouth 5b 446

greyghost

greyghost Report 2 Aug 2017 16:55

1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
1, Watson Gardens, Plymouth, Devon, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Robert Ambrose Head Married Male 68 1833 Carpenter & Joiner Plymouth, Devon, England
Louisa Ambrose Wife Married Female 49 1852 - Devonport, Devon, England

Maddie

Maddie Report 2 Aug 2017 16:57

Deaths Sep 1871 (>99%)
Ambrose Robert 72 Plymouth 5b 157

Deaths Dec 1871 (>99%)
Ambrose Mary Ann 74 Plymouth 5b 238

Maddie

Maddie Report 2 Aug 2017 17:08

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Robt
Last name Ambrose
Birth year -
Year 1865-75
Regiment 54th Foot
Regiment / service number as transcribed 54 Ft
Pension year 1852
Series Wo 23 - Royal Hospital Chelsea: Admission Books, Registers, And Papers 1702-1876
Archive The National Archives
Archive reference WO 23
Piece number 59
Piece description 51-70 Foot.
Year range 1865-1875
Record set British Army Service Records

date of admission 1852

Rambling

Rambling Report 2 Aug 2017 17:09

Deaths Mar 1866 (>99%)
Ambrose William H 2 Penzance 5c 258

AustinQ

AustinQ Report 2 Aug 2017 18:24

The Cornish Telegraph - Wednesday 14 March 1866

Deaths:
At Adelaide Street, in this town on the 10th inst,. Wm. Henry, son of Robert Ambrose, aged 2 years

Lesley Alexandra Elisabeth Ann

Lesley Alexandra Elisabeth Ann Report 3 Aug 2017 11:26

Dear NYX, GreyGhost and Maddie, Thank you soooo much for the very comprehensive info! A lot of it is spot on for the Davis side - I have all the certificates - for the Ambrose side you have provided me with info I have not been able to find/verify myself. So very grateful.
Do you think that "Joiner and House Carpenter Journeyman" may be roughly the same as "Railway Plate layer"?
One more question please - I have subscribed to the Platinum membership and paid for access to Parish Records but cannot find how to access these and Genes have not replied to my email about it yet. How do I access them? Very frustrating!
Many thanks again. I am overwhelmed with your help! :-)

Lesley Alexandra Elisabeth Ann

Lesley Alexandra Elisabeth Ann Report 3 Aug 2017 11:28

Thank you also Austin Q

Rambling

Rambling Report 3 Aug 2017 11:33

Hi Lesley, I don't use this site for records, but if you go to "Search" at top of page, click on it and then on "Search records", then "Births .Marriages, Deaths" you should see a long list of records available which include all the Parish records. Hope that helps.

Rambling

Rambling Report 3 Aug 2017 12:30

As well as the death for a William in Penzance there is also this one in Exeter, though I am not seeing a birth?

AMBROSE, WILLIAM HENRY 2 Order
GRO Reference: 1866 M Quarter in PENZANCE Volume 05C Page 258

AMBROSE, WILLIAM HENRY 2 Order
GRO Reference: 1869 S Quarter in EXETER Volume 05B Page 75

Has anyone found Emma on the 1881 census?

Maddie

Maddie Report 3 Aug 2017 13:22

A platelayer (British English) or trackman (American English) is a railway employee whose job is to inspect and maintain the permanent way of a railway installation.[1] The term "platelayer" derives from the plates used to build plateways, an early form of railway.[

did he change occupation ????

have checked these records but no result
All UK, Railway Employment Records, 1833-1956 results for Robert Ambrose

Lesley Alexandra Elisabeth Ann

Lesley Alexandra Elisabeth Ann Report 3 Aug 2017 13:58

Many thanks again all for the comprehensive info you have provided. I am going to spend the next few hours going through it all. :-)

greyghost

greyghost Report 3 Aug 2017 17:05

Devon Cemetery Burials 1848-1974 Transcription
Print transcription
First name(s) Mary Ann
Last name Ambrose
Age 74
Birth year 1797
Residence 11 Chester Place Plymouth
Home parish St Andrew
Death year 1871
Burial year 1871
Burial date 23 Dec 1871
Parish Ford Park Cemetery
Place Plymouth, Ford Park Cemetery
Denomination General
Grave type Common
Memorial reference Section AH, No.4, Row 23
County Devon
Country England
Document reference 2595/9
Repository Plymouth & West Devon Record Office
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Devon Cemetery Burials 1848-1974 Transcription
Print transcription
First name(s) Robert
Last name Ambrose
Age 72
Birth year 1799
Residence 14 Clifton Street Ply
Home parish Charles
Death year 1871
Burial year 1871
Burial date 13 Aug 1871
Parish Ford Park Cemetery
Place Plymouth, Ford Park Cemetery
Denomination Church
Grave type Common
Memorial reference Section AH, No.33, Row 5
County Devon
Country England
Document reference 1015/8
Repository Plymouth & West Devon Record Office
Record set Devon Burials

greyghost

greyghost Report 3 Aug 2017 17:30

Does the plot thicken??

Robert Ambrose marries Eliza Davey 1856. Eliza dies 1876.

The 1881 and 1891 for Robert haven't been posted as yet -

1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Elm Road Manna, Compton-Gifford, Plympton St Mary, Devon, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Robert Ambrose Head Married Male 48 1833 Carpenter Plymouth, Devon, England
Elizabeth Ambrose Wife Married Female 43 1838 - Plymouth, Devon, England
Fredrick C Ambrose Son Single Male 19 1862 None Plymouth, Devon, England
Louisa E Ambrose Daughter Single Female 17 1864 - Plymouth, Devon, England
Laura M Ambrose Daughter Single Female 11 1870 - Plymouth, Devon, England

Right Robert with 3 of the children from his marriage to Eliza Davey but his wife is Elizabeth

greyghost

greyghost Report 3 Aug 2017 17:35

England & Wales marriages 1837-2005 Transcription

First name(s) ROBERT
Last name AMBROSE
Marriage quarter 1
Marriage year 1877
Registration month -
MarriageFinderâ„¢ ROBERT AMBROSE married
Elizabeth Gill
District Plympton
District number -
County Devon
Country England
Volume 5B
Page 347

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Devon Marriages Transcription

First name(s) Robert
Last name Ambrose
Age -
Birth year -
Marriage year 1877
Marriage date 27 Feb 1877
Denomination Anglican
Place Pennycross, St Pancras
Father's first name(s) Robert
Father's last name Ambrose
Spouse's first name(s) Elizabeth
Spouse's last name Gill
Spouse's father's first name(s) Nathaniel
Spouse's father's last name Gill
County Devon
Archive Plymouth & West Devon Record Office

Image shows Robert as a Widower, a Builder by trade and of the parish of Charles, Plymouth. Father Robert a Builder.

Elizabeth is Spinster of Weston Mill, Pennycross, daughter of Nathaniel Gill a Seaman

Witnesses Richard and Ann Doidge

greyghost

greyghost Report 3 Aug 2017 17:39

By 1891 Robert (although a little older than usual ) is shown as a Widower

1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Sir Frances Drake, Camden Street, Plymouth, Devon, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Henry Harding Head Married Male 56 1835 Publican Devon, England
Mary J Harding Wife Married Female 59 1832 - Devon, England
Sarah L Lloyd Sister In Law Widow Female 54 1837 Living On Her Own Means Devon, England
Sarah M Lloyd Niece Single Female 27 1864 Milliner Devon, England
John Palmer Boarder Widower Male 50 1841 Pensioner Devon, England
Robert Ambrose Boarder Widower Male 62 1829 Carpenter Devon, England

greyghost

greyghost Report 3 Aug 2017 17:39

and Elizabeth's death

England & Wales deaths 1837-2007 Transcription

First name(s) ELIZABETH
Last name AMBROSE
Gender Female
Birth day -
Birth month -
Birth year 1837
Age 52
Death quarter 4
Death year 1889
District Plymouth
County Devon
Volume 5B
Page 159

greyghost

greyghost Report 3 Aug 2017 17:41

But can't find Robert with a Mary Ann and can't find Elizabeth Ann or Mary Ann Ambrose mmn Pape between Birth and marriage nor Emma after her birth apart from 1891 with Elizabeth

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 3 Aug 2017 17:57

Does below fit anywhere? (apologies if already added)

Chris :)

Baptism
Day Month 03-Nov
Year 1865
Parish Or Reg District Madron, Penzance Chapelry
Forename Mary Elizabeth
Surname AMBROSE
Sex dau
Father Forename Robert
Mother Forename Mary Ann
Residence Adelaide Street
Father Rank Profession Labourer


(for Newspaper reference)

Burial
Day Month 14-Mar
Year 1866
Parish Or Reg District Madron, Penzance Chapelry
Forename William Henry
Surname AMBROSE
Age 2
Residence Adelaide Street
Notes
Transcriber Notes Src: Register of Churchyard & Consecrated part of Burial Board Cemetery

http://www.cornwall-opc-database.org/search-database/

(from above link)