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Thank you in advance for your ideas. I'm trying to find information on Samuel Lake, son of John Lake (1815-1886) and Elizabeth Pook (1816-1876). The family are from Macclesfield area, Cheshire, England and Samuel is the eldest of several children (Samuel, Hannah, John, Elizabeth, Stephen, James and Eliza Lake)
I believe I have found him in the 1841 Census living in Paradise St,Prestbury (Record says Samuel Leak) but I lose track of him after then.
Family folk-law says he may have moved to Australia and that his younger sister Hannah Lake (who married Isaac Hudson Burgess) followed him when Hannah and Isaac moved to Australia around 1863.
That is all the definite information I have. He could be the Samuel Lake that married Mary Connor in 1860 in Liverpool which lists him as a mariner.
I have found so many Samuel Lake's that I'm struggling to work out what happened to him. Many thanks for your time. Tania

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Samuel Leak

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Name: Samuel Leak
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 14 Sep 1834
Baptism Date: 26 Jun 1837
Baptism Place: Sunderland Street Wesleyan,MacClesfield,Cheshire,England
Father: John Leak
Mother: Elizabeth
FHL Film Number: 0020048 (RG4 541, 542)

Samuel Leak

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Name: Samuel Leak
Birth Date: 14 Sep 1837
Gender: Male
Event Type: Baptism
Father: John Leak ----- a silk weaver
Mother: Elizabeth Leak
Baptism Date: 26 Jun 1837
Baptism Place: Macclesfield, Cheshire, England
Denomination: Wesleyan
Piece Title: Piece 0542: Macclesfield, Sunderland Street Chapel (Wesleyan), 1815-1837

1841 for reference
Paradise Street, Prestbury, Macclesfield, Cheshire, England

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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Gender Age Birth year Birth place
Eliza Leak Female 25 1816 Cheshire, England
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Samuel Leak Male 6 1835 Cheshire, England
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Hannah Leak Female 3 1838 Cheshire, England
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Thomas Johnson Male 20 1821 Cheshire, England
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Samuel Johnson Male 15 1826 Cheshire, England

hannah in 1851
Name: Hannah Lake
Age: 14
Estimated birth year: abt 1837
Relation: Daughter
Father's name: John Lake
Mother's name: Eliza Lake
Gender: Female
Where born: Macclesfield, Cheshire, England
Civil Parish: Macclesfield
Ecclesiastical parish: Macclesfield
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Town: Macclesfield
County/Island: Cheshire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability:

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Registration district: Macclesfield
Sub-registration district: West Macclesfield
ED, institution, or vessel: 5o
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 127
Piece: 2160
Folio: 345
Page Number: 34
Household Members:
Name Age
John Lake 38
Eliza Lake 35
Hannah Lake 14
John Lake 9
Elizabeth Lake 7
Stephen Lake 5
James Lake

Deaths Dec 1885   (>99%)

LAKE
 Samuel
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hannah ???
Hannah Burgess

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Name: Hannah Burgess
Death Date: 01 Aug 1876
Death Place: Queensland
Father's name: John Lake
Mother's name: Eliza
Registration Year: 1876
Registration Place: Queensland
Registration Number: 000159
Page Number: 1909

Samuel Lake
mentioned in the record of Samuel Lake and Mary Conner
Name
Samuel Lake
Event Type
Marriage
Event Date
23 Jun 1860
Event Place
Cheshire, England
Gender
Male
Spouse's Name
Mary Conner
Spouse's Marital Status
Single

Thanks yes, I think that is definitely the family. Samuel seems to have moved out by the time of the 1851 census when he would have been 16, so that seems reasonable. If he was the mariner who married Mary Connor, perhaps he left home in his early teens and headed for sea?? I'm not sure how to trace him after the 1841 census.
Thanks again

That's a good thought. I wonder if there is a death record of a Samuel lake before 1868? I'll have a look. A suggestion was made above of a death in 1885, but not sure if that's him.

I've found a Samuel Lake who died in Macclesfield in 1862.
Samuel Lake
Registration Year: 1862
Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar
Registration district: Macclesfield
Parishes for this Registration District: View Ecclesiastical Parishes associated with this Registration District
Inferred County: Cheshire
Volume: 8a
Page: 94
Maybe he didn't make it to Australia after all??
Does anyone know how I might confirm this is him?

I wonder if anyone can see him on the 1851 or 1861 census?

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Name: Samuel Lake
Registration Year: 1862
Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar
Registration district: Macclesfield
Parishes for this Registration District: View Ecclesiastical Parishes associated with this Registration District
Inferred County: Cheshire
Volume: 8a
Page: 94

maybe
MARY
Last name LAKE
Marriage year 1868
Marriage date 18 Jan 1868
Spouse's first name Charles
Spouse's last name Hofton
Bride's marital status Widowed
County Cheshire
Country England
Record set Cheshire Marriage licence bonds and allegations 1606-1905
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Parish Marriages
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Seems like a definite possibility. Might have to order some certificates to find out. Can anyone see him in an 1851 or 1861 census? I wonder if he had any kids?

can't find any births on gro parents lake / connor

Oops, maybe we are not on the right track. This record says the Samuel Lake who died in Macclesfield in 1862 was 71 years old which doesn't add up.

Name: Samuel Lake
Event Type: Burial
Event Date: 23 Jan 1862
Event Place: Christ Church, Macclesfield, Cheshire, England
Gender: Male
Age (Formatted): 71y
Birth Date:
Marital Status:
Father's Name:
Mother's Name:
Spouse's Name:
Spouse's Marital Status:
Spouse's Father's Name:
Spouse's Mother's Name:
GS Film number: 2186845
Digital Folder Number: 004019271
Image Number: 00827

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"England, Cheshire Parish Registers, 1538-2000," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:F3GL-136 : 21 July 2017), Samuel Lake, 23 Jan 1862, Burial; citing item 5 p 228, Christ Church, Macclesfield, Cheshire, England, Record Office, Chester; FHL microfilm 2,186,845.

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Samuel Leak
Event Type Burial
Event Date 24 Jul 1850
Event Place Christ Church, Macclesfield, Cheshire, England
Gender Male
Age (Formatted) 16y
Citing this Record

"England, Cheshire Parish Registers, 1538-2000," database, FamilySearch

Maybe. It's really hard to know for sure isn't it. I am a descendant of Hannah Lake (daughter of John Lake and Elizabeth Pook) and the family legend has that she and her husband followed one of her siblings to Australia.
I can find her younger brother James Lake in Australia so maybe it is him and Samuel died young???
Hannah Lake & her husband Isaac Burgess named their first born son Samuel, who was born in 1861. I think Hannah and Isaac left for Australia in 1862.
Thanks again for thinking on it Maddie

If he died in 1850, that would explain why he seems to disappear off the census records.

the death certificate may give you further information

Name: Age at Death (in years):
LEAK, SAMUEL 15 Order
GRO Reference: 1850 S Quarter in MACCLESFIELD UNION Volume 19 Page 87

maddie

Thanks, yes I think you are right. I think I'll order that one and see how I go. Thanks again.
Late at night here now. Off to bed but will check thread in the morning.

John lake married Elizabeth Johnson 14/6/1834

1851 census they have Stephen 1846
Birth record shows his mum as Johnson V19 P120 he died 1920 England
Also there was James 1850/1 he married Eliza Emmerson in Victoria Australia in 1871 he died 1919 she died 1948.

Some of the above info off Ancestry.co.uk

Maryb.

That makes more sense Mary as the John Lake marriage to Elizabet Pook took place in Devon and all their children were subsequently born in that area:


Pallot's Marriage Index for England: 1780 - 1837
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Name John Lake
Spouse Elzth Pook
Marriage Date 1831
Parish Halberton
Household Members
Name Age
John Lake
Elzth Pook

Dea x

That's really interesting Dea, I have noticed heaps of the names keep coming up in Devon but I had discounted them because I thought I knew Hannah Lake (the second child, first daughter) was born in Macclesfield and that's where she met her husband Isaac Hudson Burgess. I'll have to check my records - maybe I've been making assumptions because that's where she got married and actually I should be looking at the Devon records.
Many thanks - I'll keep you posted.

I agree with above that I think James Lake one of the younger sons, married Eliza Emmerson, in Victoria, Australia.