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Can anyone help with the death of a richard hargreaves who was husband of bridget whitaker . They married in 1809 in padiham . I am trying to find the deaths of this couple. I did find a death in may 1824 in padiham . But on some trees i have seen they seem to have an exact date of death as 16 october 1824. I am wondering if i have missed this death somehow. I did notice that at st leonards in padiham the month of october seems to be missing for deaths when checking on the parish records for st Leonards.
can anyone help. ? I am unable to discover wether the supposition that his father was john and he was born in 1789 is correct also.

regards
shirley :-)

There are 2 births for a Richard Hargreaves1) born 1798 baptised 11/3/1798 son of John and Ann 2) Born 1798 baptised 3/3/1799 son of William and Isobel.
Will go back and see if I can find anything else. From Family Search.
Eileen

Neither Family Search,or the Parish register have any deaths that fit with those birth dated. The Parish registers appear to be intact.
E

Other dates on this tree on Ancestry - but no proof offered of anything except the marriage


Richard Hargreaves
Hargreaves-Deitz Family Tree

Birth: 24 Feb 1789
Birth (Alternate)
8 Mar 1789 • Padiham, Lancashire, England
Baptism
8 Mar 1789 • Bury, Lancashire, England
St Mary the Virgin

Marriage: 23 Oct 1809 - Padiham, Lancashire, England

Death: 6/5/1824 (6 May 1824) - Padiham, Lancashire, England


Parents: John Hargreaves, Ann Ormerod
Spouse: Bridget Whittaker

Bridget Whittaker
1793–1834
Birth 1793 • Padiham, England, United Kingdom

Death 15/9/1834 • Padiham, Lancashire, England
Death (Alternate)
7 December 1823 • Padiham, Lancashire, England

thanks eileen.I think though that to be married in 1809 he would have to have been born at least 1789 if not a little earlier. I think he was at heart a non conformist so would have to marry in an anglican church but perhaps baptise his children in a non conformist one. He and bridget had first child giles hoyle hargreaves in 1810 . Then henry born in 1811.
there must be a bolton connection somewhere to as both giles and henry married in bolton but seemed to come back to padiham later. :-S

exactly , somuch differing info on ancestry so not sure what to believe. No sign of proof so not sure which is correct. I can see there is a definate connection to bolton. and we know that henry emigrated to australia with wife susannah in 1840. Henry is the son born in 1811 in padiham.
i wonder where they get the exact date of death for richard as 16 october 1824 . i can see no evidence for this anywhere. :-S

equally i can not see any sign of those death dates for bridget in padiham, 1828 or 1834? am i missing something ? :-S

and on a sight that is not ancestry i have also found repeated that bridget died in 1823 . ? :-S

i do think that the 1834 date is more likely as they were non conformist and i did find a burial on family search for 1834 in a non conformist church in padiham . Not sure what church but would have been a methodist one. :-S

possibly hall hill street padiham . i shall check at burnley library and if no joy, perhaps the record office in preston. :-S

This will be the 1834 death, I expect.

The transcription says Richard's her father, but the image says she's "widow of Richard Hargreaves".

Bridget Hargreaves
in the England & Wales, Non-Conformist and Non-Parochial Registers, 1567-1970
Name: Bridget Hargreaves
Birth Date: abt 1793
Gender: Female
Event Type: Burial
Father: Richd Hargreaves
Death Date: 15 Sep 1834
Death Age: 41
Burial Date: 1834
Burial Place: Padiham, Lancaster, England
Denomination: Wesleyan
Piece Title: Piece 1146: Padiham, Parish of Whalley (Wesleyan), 1785-1815.

Cause of death: Consumption.

Looks as if you're right about Hall Hill:

http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/LAN/Padiham/Wesley

Wesley Wesleyan Methodist, Padiham

Wesley,
Hall Hill,
Padiham
Lancashire

Cemeteries
The church has/had a graveyard.
Church History
It was founded in 1779 and closed in 1847.

1748 Methodism started in Padiham and was know as the Darney Society.
1750 Meetings in a cottage in West Street.
1758 First licensed house in West Street (also called Old Chapel Street). Burial Ground opened off Chapel Walk, Padiham near Spring Gardens Terrace.
1779 Larger chapel built at Hall Hill.
1847 Wesley chapel opened on Church Street .. used for next 68 years.
1847 Building at Hall Hill sold.

Is this the May death for Richard that you found??

The birth year of 1790 could be +/- 1 year


England & Wales Non-conformist burials

First name(s) Richard
Last name Hargreaves
Age 34
Birth year 1790
Death year 1824
Death date 06 May 1824
Burial year 1824
Burial date 09 May 1824
Place Padiham
Burial place as transcribed Whalley
Denomination Wesleyan Methodist
County Lancashire
Country England
The National Archives reference TNA/RG/4/1146
Description LANCASHIRE: Padiham, Parish of Whalley (Wesleyan): Burials
Record set England & Wales Non-Conformist Burials
Category Life Events (BDMs)
Subcategory Parish Burials
Collections from United Kingdom, England

from image:-
Residence:- Padiham
Occupation:- Joiner
Died:- May 6 1824
Interred:- May 9 1824
Age:- 34 years
Cause of Death:- Consumption

No entry in column headed Wife or Child

This is the transcript for Bridget from FMP ....... with Richd accurately shown as "Spouse"


England & Wales Non-conformist burials

First name(s) Bridget
Last name Hargreaves
Age 41
Birth year 1793
Death year 1834
Death date 15 Sep 1834
Burial year 1834
Burial date 18 Sep 1834
Place Padiham
Burial place as transcribed Whalley
Denomination Wesleyan Methodist
Spouse's first name Richd
County Lancashire
Country England
The National Archives reference TNA/RG/4/1146
Description LANCASHIRE: Padiham, Parish of Whalley (Wesleyan): Burials
Record set England & Wales Non-Conformist Burials
Category Life Events (BDMs)
Subcategory Parish Burials
Collections from United Kingdom, England

from image:-
Residence:- Burnley

How many children did they have?

There are 6 shown on lancs opc ................. and father Richard's occupation is Joiner, which fits with the May 1824 death


Baptism: 29 Jul 1810 St Leonard, Padiham, Lancashire, England
Giles Hoyle Hargreaves - Son of Richard Hargreaves & Bridget
Born: 26 Apr
Abode: Padiham
Occupation: Joiner
Register: Baptisms 1803 - 1812, Entry 95
Source: Original Parish Register

Baptism: 12 May 1811 St Leonard, Padiham, Lancashire, England
Henry Hargreaves - Son of Richard Hargreaves & Bridget
Born: 24 Apr 1811
Abode: Padiham
Occupation: Joiner
Register: Baptisms 1803 - 1812, Entry 53
Source: Original Parish Register

Baptism: 3 May 1812 St Leonard, Padiham, Lancashire, England
James Hargreaves - Son of Richard Hargreaves & Bridget
Born: 19 Apr 1812
Abode: Padiham
Occupation: Joiner
Register: Baptisms 1803 - 1812, Entry 56
Source: Original Parish Register

Baptism: 29 Aug 1813 St Leonard, Padiham, Lancashire, England
Richard Hargreaves - Son of Richard Hargreaves & Bridget
Born: 9 Aug 1813
Abode: Padiham
Occupation: Joiner
Baptised by: J Adamson
Register: Baptims 1813 - 1827, Page 13, Entry 100
Source: Original Parish Register

Baptism: 18 Dec 1814 St Leonard, Padiham, Lancashire, England
Jane Hargreaves - Daughter of Richard Hargreaves & Bridget
Born: 27 Nov 1814
Abode: Padiham
Occupation: Joiner
Baptised by: J Adamson
Register: Baptims 1813 - 1827, Page 41, Entry 322
Source: Original Parish Register

Baptism: 7 Jul 1816 St Leonard, Padiham, Lancashire, England
Isaac Hargreaves - Son of Richard Hargreaves & Bridget
Born: 2 Jul 1816
Abode: Padiham
Occupation: Joiner
Baptised by: J Adamson
Register: Baptims 1813 - 1827, Page 74, Entry 590
Source: Original Parish Register

Below was about also...

Chris :)

Lancashire wills & probate 1457-1858 Transcription (Find My Past)

First name(s) Richard
Last name Hargreaves
Year 1824
Date 21 May 1824
Occupation Grocer
Place Padiham, Whalley
Archdeaconry Chester
County Cheshire, Lancashire
Archive Lancashire Archives
Archive reference 795A/49

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Then they seemed to have moved to the Wesleyan Methodists ...............

Do you have these??

from FMP


England & Wales Non-conformist births and baptisms

First name(s) Ellen
Last name Hargraves
Birth year 1819
Birth date 01 Nov 1819
Baptism year 1819
Baptism date 21 ? 1819
Place Padiham
Denomination Wesleyan Methodist
Father's first name(s) Richard
Mother's first name(s) Bridget
County Lancashire
Country England
The National Archives reference TNA/RG/4/2827
Description LANCASHIRE: Padiham, Parish of Whalley (Wesleyan): Births & Baptisms
Record set England & Wales Non-Conformist Births And Baptisms
Category Life Events (BDMs)
Subcategory Parish Baptisms
Collections from United Kingdom, England

from image:-
Father occupation:- Joiner

Month of baptism is unclear, it could be November


First name(s) Ann
Last name Hargreaves
Gender Female
Birth year 1822
Birth place -
Baptism year 1822
Baptism date 25 Apr 1822
Death date 07 Jun 1822
Place Padiham
County Lancashire
Country England
Father's first name(s) Richard
Father's last name Hargreaves
Mother's first name(s) Bridget
Mother's last name -
Record set England Births & Baptisms 1538-1975
Category Life Events (BDMs)
Subcategory Parish Baptisms
Collections from England, United Kingdom

no image


First name(s) Bridget
Last name Hargreaves
Birth year 1818
Birth date 03 Jan 1818
Baptism year 1818
Baptism date 25 Jan 1818
Place Padiham
Denomination Wesleyan Methodist
Father's first name(s) Richard
Mother's first name(s) Bridget
County Lancashire
Country England
The National Archives reference TNA/RG/4/2827
Description LANCASHIRE: Padiham, Parish of Whalley (Wesleyan): Births & Baptisms
Record set England & Wales Non-Conformist Births And Baptisms
Category Life Events (BDMs)
Subcategory Parish Baptisms
Collections from United Kingdom, England

from image:-
Father occupation:- Joiner


First name(s) Enoch
Last name Hargreaves
Birth year 1823
Birth date 13 Nov 1823
Baptism year 1823
Baptism date 07 Dec 1823
Place Padiham
Denomination Wesleyan Methodist
Father's first name(s) Richard
Mother's first name(s) Bridget
County Lancashire
Country England
The National Archives reference TNA/RG/4/2827
Description LANCASHIRE: Padiham, Parish of Whalley (Wesleyan): Births & Baptisms
Record set England & Wales Non-Conformist Births And Baptisms
Category Life Events (BDMs)
Subcategory Parish Baptisms
Collections from United Kingdom, England

from image:-
Father Occupation:- Joiner


First name(s) Mary
Last name Hargreaves
Birth year 1820
Birth date 19 Dec 1820
Baptism year 1821
Baptism date 14 Jan 1821
Place Padiham
Denomination Wesleyan Methodist
Father's first name(s) Richard
Mother's first name(s) Bridget
County Lancashire
Country England
The National Archives reference TNA/RG/4/2827
Description LANCASHIRE: Padiham, Parish of Whalley (Wesleyan): Births & Baptisms
Record set England & Wales Non-Conformist Births And Baptisms
Category Life Events (BDMs)
Subcategory Parish Baptisms
Collections from United Kingdom, England

from image:-
Father occupation:- Joiner


Richard baptised 29 Aug 1813, died in 1815, according to this transript .....

First name(s) Richard
Last name Hargreaves
Gender Male
Birth year 1813
Birth place -
Baptism year 1813
Baptism date 29 Aug 1813
Death date 11 Jun 1815
Place Padiham
County Lancashire
Country England
Father's first name(s) Richard
Father's last name Hargreaves
Mother's first name(s) Bridget
Mother's last name -
Record set England Births & Baptisms 1538-1975
Category Life Events (BDMs)
Subcategory Parish Baptisms
Collections from England, United Kingdom

from lancs opc .......
Burial: 11 Jun 1815 St Leonard, Padiham, Lancashire, England
Richard Hargreaves - Son of Richd. Hargreaves
Age: 1y 10m
Abode: Padiham
Occupation: Joiner
Cause of Death: Consumption
Buried by: ? Dunderdale Minr. Offg.
Register: Burials 1813 - 1816, Page 22, Entry 175
Source: Original Parish Register

deaths of children?????

Form the date of the death of Isaac, it looks as though Richard and Bridget left St Leonards in the 10 months between Isaac's baptism and his burial.


England & Wales Non-conformist burials

First name(s) Ann
Last name Hargreaves
Age 5M
Birth year 1822
Death year 1822
Death date 07 Jun 1822
Burial year 1822
Burial date 09 Jun 1822
Place Padiham
Burial place as transcribed Whalley
Denomination Wesleyan Methodist
Father's first name Richd
Mother's first name Bridget
County Lancashire
Country England
The National Archives reference TNA/RG/4/1146
Description LANCASHIRE: Padiham, Parish of Whalley (Wesleyan): Burials
Record set England & Wales Non-Conformist Burials
Category Life Events (BDMs)
Subcategory Parish Burials
Collections from United Kingdom, England

I can't make out the cause of death shown on the image


First name(s) Ellen
Last name Hargreaves
Age 10M
Birth year 1819
Death year 1820
Death date 16 Sep 1820
Burial year 1820
Burial date 17 Sep 1820
Place Padiham
Burial place as transcribed Whalley
Denomination Wesleyan Methodist
Father's first name Richd
Mother's first name Bridget
County Lancashire
Country England
The National Archives reference TNA/RG/4/1146
Description LANCASHIRE: Padiham, Parish of Whalley (Wesleyan): Burials
Record set England & Wales Non-Conformist Burials
Category Life Events (BDMs)
Subcategory Parish Burials
Collections from United Kingdom, England

from image:-
Father occupation:- Joiner
no cause of death shown


First name(s) Isaac
Last name Hargreaves
Age 10M
Birth year 1816
Death year 1817
Death date 14 May 1817
Burial year 1817
Burial date 16 May 1817
Place Padiham
Burial place as transcribed Whalley
Denomination Wesleyan Methodist
Father's first name Ricd
Mother's first name Bridget
County Lancashire
Country England
The National Archives reference TNA/RG/4/1146
Description LANCASHIRE: Padiham, Parish of Whalley (Wesleyan): Burials
Record set England & Wales Non-Conformist Burials
Category Life Events (BDMs)
Subcategory Parish Burials
Collections from United Kingdom, England

no more information on image

Richard HARGREAVES
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Sex
Male

Birth
8 March 1789
Padiham, Lancashire, England


Death

16 October 1814
Padiham, Lancashire, England



MARRIAGES (1)
Spouse
Bridget WHITAKER

Marriage
23 October 1809
Padiham, Lancashire, England

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Richard Hargraves
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Name
Richard Hargraves
Sex
Male
Wife
Bridget Whitaker
Child
Henry Hargraves
Other information in the record of Henry Hargraves
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Name
Henry Hargraves
Birth Year (Estimated)
1811
Age
29
Native Residence Place
Padiham, Lancashire, England
Father's Name
Richard Hargraves
Mother's Name
Bridget Whitaker
Spouse's Name
Susanah Hargraves
Spouse's Residence Place
, Kent, England
Spouse's Father's Name
Thomas Blumly
Spouse's Mother's Name
Sarah Taffender
Ship Name
Champion
Event Date
1840
Volume
27