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Hi Everyone
I'm needing some help sorting out the Hudson Family from the Prestbury/Adlington/Macclesfield part of Cheshire, in England.
I believe Joseph Hudson was born in 1808 and I know he died 25/1/1878 (I have the death record). My questions are:
Who is his wife "Hannah" who appears in the 1851 census onwards - I cannot find a record of their marriage or her maiden name
What happened to the child "Hannah" who appears in the 1841 census and why isn't there a spouse in the 1841 census?
Were there any other children?

Many thanks for your help.

1841
Name Joseph Hudson
Age 30
Estimated Birth Year abt 1811
Gender Male
Where born Cheshire, England
Civil parish Prestbury
Hundred Macclesfield
County/Island Cheshire
Country England
Registration district Macclesfield
Sub-registration district East Macclesfield
Piece 131
Book 6
Folio 13
Page number 21
Household Members
Name Age
Joseph Hudson 30
Hannah Hudson 3
1851
Name Joseph Hudson
Age 43
Estimated Birth Year abt 1808
Relation Head
Spouse's Name Hannah Hudson
Gender Male
Where born Macclesfield, Cheshire, England
Civil parish Macclesfield
Phillimore Ecclesiastical Parish Maps 1016
Town Macclesfield
County/Island Cheshire
Country England
Registration district Macclesfield
Sub-registration district Rainow
ED, institution, or vessel 4f
Household schedule number 10
Piece 2159
Folio 236
Page number 3
Household Members
Name Age
Joseph Hudson 43
Hannah Hudson 41
Jane Hudson 13
Isaac Burgess 16
Sarah Wright 53
John Baynes 36
1861
Name Joseph Hudson
Age 53
Estimated Birth Year 1808
Relation Head
Spouse's Name Hannah Hudson
Gender Male
Where born Henbury, Cheshire, England
Civil parish Macclesfield
County/Island Cheshire
Country England
Registration district Macclesfield
Sub-registration district East Macclesfield
ED, institution, or vessel 5
Household schedule number 9
Piece 2578
Folio 86
Page number 2
Household Members
Name Age
Joseph Hudson
Hannah Hudson
Joseph Hudson
Jane Birchenoll
Eliza Birchenoll
Sarah Wright
1871
Name Joseph Hudson
Age 63
Estimated Birth Year abt 1808
Relation Head
Spouse's Name Hannah Hudson
Gender Male
Where born Macclesfield
Civil parish Macclesfield
Ecclesiastical parish St Michael
Town Macclesfield
County/Island Cheshire
Country England
Registration district Macclesfield
Sub-registration district West Macclesfield
ED, institution, or vessel 4
Household schedule number 40
Piece 3674
Folio 67
Page number 7
Household Members
Name Age
Joseph Hudson 63
Hannah Hudson 60
Joseph Hudson 19
Sarah Wright 71

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HUDSON, JANE JACKSON Order
GRO Reference: 1838 M Quarter in MACCLESFIELD UNION Volume 19 Page 9

Thanks, yes, I think that may be the daughter Jane who marries into the Birchenall family and appears on later censuses. It's funny the 1841 census does not have her, but does have a daughter Hannah.

Results:
Name: Mother's Maiden Surname: Order:
Order
HUDSON, JOSEPH JACKSON Order
GRO Reference: 1851 D Quarter in MACCLESFIELD UNION Volume 19 Page 114 Order

Sorry if this is a silly question (I'm a bit of a beginner). Do you think this means the wife's maiden name is Jackson? ie we are looking for Hannah Jackson?

I've found a Joseph Hudson who married Hannah Jackson in 1834, but it's in Lancashire - no 100% convinced it is the right couple, but maybe.

Joseph Hudson
Gender: Male
Event Type: Marriage
Event Date: 22 Jun 1834
Parish: Manchester, Lancashire, England
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Spouse: Hannah Jackson
Register Type: Bishop's Transcript

Wondering if anyone has any other ideas. The children seem to have been born in Macclesfield so I'm not sure this is the right couple. Also, seems odd that daughter's Jane and Hannah were born in 1838 but the next child Joseph not born until 1852. I wonder if I'm accidently combining two families.

The age for Hannah in 1861 is quite clearly 25 years on the 1861 census image.


1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Waters Green, Macclesfield, Cheshire, England

Joseph Hudson Head Married Male 53 1808 Fruiterer Henbury, Cheshire, England
Hannah Hudson Wife Married Female 25 1836 - Macclesfield, Cheshire, England
Joseph Hudson Son - Male 9 1852 Scholar Macclesfield, Cheshire, England
Jane Birchnall Daughter Married Female 25 1836 Dressmaker Macclesfield, Cheshire, England
Eliza Birchnall Granddaughter - Female 3 1858 - Macclesfield, Cheshire, England
Sarah Wright Visitor - Female 61 1800 Charwoman Adlington, Cheshire, England

You may already have this but posting it just because it came up in my search.

JOSEPH
Last name HUDSON
Gender Male
Age 70
Birth year 1808
Death year -
Burial year 1878
Burial date 30 Jan 1878
Residence Macclesfield
County Cheshire
Country England
Reference item 4 p 275
Record group Part 1 - 1
Record set Cheshire Diocese of Chester parish burials 1538-1911
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Parish Burials
Collections from England, Great Britain
Cheshire Archives and Local Studies

Jane
Last name Hudson
Birth year 1838
Baptism year 1838
Baptism date 17 Jan 1838
Place Macclesfield, St Michael
County Cheshire
Country England
Mother's first name(s) -
Father's first name(s) Joseph
Father's last name Hudson
Record set Cheshire Diocese of Chester parish baptisms 1538-1911
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Parish Baptisms
Collections from England, Great Britain
Cheshire Archives and Local Studies

The Joseph who married in 1834 was a Cordwainer (shoe maker):

Marriage: 22 Jun 1834 Collegiate, Manchester, Lancashire, England
Joseph Hudson - (X), Cordwainer, Bachelor, this Parish
Hannah Jackson - (X), Spinster, this Parish
Witness: Thomas Parry; James Ogden, (X)
Married by Banns by: Henry Fielding M.A. Chaplain
Register: Marriages 1834, Page 475, Entry 1424
Source: LDS Film 2356729

Dea x

Trees on Ancestry say that the Jane Hudson who married James Birchenall was the daughter of Joseph Hudson & Hannah Sweetman. This Joseph was a fruiterer & farmer.

BUT - Hannah Sweetman appears to have married an Edward HODSON ??:

Edward Hodson

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Name: Edward Hodson
Gender: Male
Marriage Date: 2 Mar 1848
Marriage Place: Runcorn, Chester, England
Father: John Hodson
Spouse: Hannah Sweetman
FHL Film Number: 1836131
Reference ID: 2:3H4BCT0




Name: Hannah Sweetman
Gender: Female
Birth Date: 11 Nov 1809
Baptism Date: 10 Dec 1809
Baptism Place: Weaverham, Cheshire, England
Baptism Age: 0
Father: William Sweetman
Mother: Nancy
FHL Film Number: 1736164




Results:
Name: Mother's Maiden Surname: Order:
HODSON, EDWARD SWEETMAN Order
GRO Reference: 1849 M Quarter in OF THE RUNCORN UNION Volume 19 Page 234 Order



Results:
Name: Mother's Maiden Surname: Order:
HODSON, THOMAS WOODYER SWEETMAN Order
GRO Reference: 1850 S Quarter in OF THE RUNCORN UNION Volume 19 Page 228




1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Preston Brook, Preston in the Hill, Runcorn, Cheshire, England

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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Edward Hodson Head Married Male 54 1797 Toll Clerk On The Trent When Canal Lichfield, Staffordshire, England
Transcription
Hannah Hodson Wife Married Female 41 1810 Toll Clerk Wife Weaverham, Cheshire, England
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Edward Hodson Son - Male 2 1849 - Preston on the Hill, Cheshire, England
Transcription
Thomas W Hodson Son - Male 0 1851 - Preston on the Hill, Cheshire, England
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Ann Dean Servant Unmarried Female 23 1828 Servant Preston on the Hill, Cheshire, England




1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Leinster Street, Runcorn, Cheshire, England

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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Hannah Hodson Head Widow Female 51 1810 Canal Companys Agents Widow Weaverham, Cheshire, England
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Edward Hodson Son - Male 12 1849 Scholar Preston on the Hill, Cheshire, England



1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Leinster Street, Runcorn, Cheshire, England

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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Hannah Hodson Head - Female 61 1810 - Cheshire, England
Transcription
Edward Hodson Son - Male 22 1849 - Cheshire, England


Dea x

Just noticed the wife Hannah Hudson on the 1861 was born 1836, so 28 years younger than Joseph so definitely not Jane's mother. ( sorry if I'm stating what was obvious to everyone else lol).

AAhhh but on the 1871 she was born 1810 / 11 ??

Dea x

The 1861 census is the only way one that seems to give Hannah's birth year as 1836. I posted the census above and did say that on the image her age is entered as 25 years quite clearly. Jane is also on the census aged 25 years and the writing is quite clear. Perhaps the enumerator was dyslexic :-)


Perhaps it would be best to buy that Jane Hudson mmn Jackson birth certificate even if only for elimination purposes.

Joseph
Last name Hudson
Birth year 1851
Baptism year 1851
Baptism date 26 Nov 1851
Place Macclesfield, St Michael
County Cheshire
Country England
Mother's first name(s) -
Father's first name(s) Joseph
Father's last name Hudson
Record set Cheshire Diocese of Chester parish baptisms 1538-1911
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Parish Baptisms
Collections from England, Great Britain
Cheshire Archives and Local Studies

My apologies, I was just dipping in and hadn't noticed that the age had been noticed and mentioned already. :-)

No problem Nyx. It is always best to be aware of ages given on census as it has been known for a second wife to have the same Christian name as the first.

That was my thinking Rootgatherer, as my gt gt had two wives named Annie, marrying between one census and the next, so the difference in age was the only thing giving the clue that they were not one and the same wife :-)