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rootgatherer, I looked for incoming passenger info as soon as I saw his stated birthplace - there is nothing on Ancestry. Just checked again - zilch

Thank you, crazy, for letting us know that you already had the marriage cert for Alfred and Dorothy and for giving us the info from it. Confirms what we have found.

Could you please tell us what you think about all the other info which has been posted on here for you.

ErikH, if you have an Ancestry sub, have you try searching for Just the surname Thomas b 1876 +/- maybe 5 years and born America? I only have a sub for FMP and I don't think you can search the census using place of birth. I wondered if we could maybe find a sibling born America and still living at home with parents.

It's a bit of a blow that we can't find Alfred and Mary Elizabeth in 1901. Although the 1911 census gives young Alfred's birthplace as Sheffield, his birth was registered in Derbyshire. Wondering if Alfred and Mary Elizabeth married in America. There is an emigration record for a Mary E. Rothwell about the right age. Bit of a longshot though.

Name: Mother's Maiden Surname: Order:
THOMAS, ALFRED ROTHWELL Order
GRO Reference: 1903 S Quarter in DERBY Volume 07B Page 674

THOMAS, GEORGE ROTHWELL Order
GRO Reference: 1906 D Quarter in SHEFFIELD Volume 09C Page 528

Name: Mother's Maiden Surname: Order:
THOMAS, CHARLES ROTHWELL Order
GRO Reference: 1910 D Quarter in SHEFFIELD Volume 09C Page 511

Earlier Thomas/Rothwell births are in Lancashire and are accounted for by marriages

No luck whatsoever with immigration records

Ok. Thanks for trying ErikaH.

New thread on other board.

https://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/living_relatives/thread/1370201

Poster has been advised to continue on here

i have been looking at the cences and like you i cant find anything i might have to go through milatry records i have look at my parents marriage lines my dad never spoke about his past only o say he was put in homes at the age of 8

Please tell us what you are actually trying to find out. Thanks

i am trying to do my dads fmily tree i have done mst of my mums but was getting nowhere with my dads that ws because i was told he was from wales with everyone help i found this out to be untrue so i am starting again and I do hank you all for this help :-)

http://www.yorkshirebmd.org.uk/

(anything on above, covers some Yorkshire)

Chris :)

(not familiar with County myself!)

Have you got the mariage cert for Alfred and Dorothy to give their ages and fathers names

You mentioned a sister Laura

The only Laura Thomas mmn smith is 1944 Sheffield

That's the one Shirley. Crazy has posted on page 1 that she has the marriage certificate.

Crazy, who were the witnesses on the marriage certificate please? Just wondering if the may have been related to Alfred.