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Edward Murray b. 1851/2 Surrey

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Sheila

Sheila Report 26 Mar 2018 10:40

Trying to find birth record/parents Edward Murray b.1851/2 Surrey.
1861 census listed as 'Edwin' with Michael Murray c1826 d bef. 1871.
1871 census Edward c1852 age 19 boarding with Thomas Murray at home of Edward Murray c1820-1892 (my gt gt grandfather) so would have been alive for Edward's marriage 1875.
Edward married 5/9/1875 (Emma Alma Potter) father given as Edward Murray dec. stone mason.
I'm stumped any help appreciated.
Sheila Murray

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Rambling

Rambling Report 26 Mar 2018 11:15

for ref

1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
64, Marsham Street, St John the Evangelist, Westminster, London & Middlesex, England


Michael Murray Head Widower Male 39 1822 Stone Mason Ireland Transcription
Edwin Murray Son - Male 10 1851 Scholar Surrey, England
Francis Braithwaite Nephew - Male 14 1847 Stone Mason Middlesex, England
Mary Murray Servant Widow Female 61 1800 Servant Ireland

Rambling

Rambling Report 26 Mar 2018 11:21

Michael with mother and brothers
1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Vine Street, Saint John the Evangelist, Westminster, London & Middlesex, England

Mary Murray Head Widow Female 50 1801 Supported By Her Sons Ireland
Edmund Murray Son Unmarried Male 32 1819 Masons Ireland
Patrick Murray Son Married Male 23 1828 Masons Middlesex, England
Thomas Murray Son Married Male 35 1816 Mason Ireland
Michael Murray Son Married Male 28 1823 Mason Ireland
Mary Murray Daughter Unmarried Female 25 1826 Dress Maker Middlesex, England
Francis Braithwaite Son In Law Married Male 40 1811 Waterman Middlesex, England T
Mary Braithwaite Daughter In Law Married Female 30 1821 Dress Maker Middlesex, England
Francis Braithwaite Nephew Unmarried Male 4 1847 Scholar Middlesex, England

Rambling

Rambling Report 26 Mar 2018 11:27

Michael may have married in Ireland?

From the GRO this looks the more likely birth, as there is no corresponding marriage in England as far as I can see?

Mother's Maiden Surname: Order:
MURRAY, EDWIN DEARLOVE Order
GRO Reference: 1851 D Quarter in BETHNAL GREEN Volume 02 Page 20 Order

Maddie

Maddie Report 26 Mar 2018 11:34

there is this one
MURRAY, EDWARD ATTRIDGE Order
GRO Reference: 1850 M Quarter in SAINT SAVIOUR SURREY Volume 04 Page 536

maybe not could be these parents
MICHAEL
Last name MURRAY
Marriage quarter 2
Marriage year 1847
Registration month -
MarriageFinderâ„¢ MICHAEL MURRAY married one of these people
Sarah Verrall, Mary Ann Sharps, Sarah Elizabeth Mason, Jane Attredge
District Lambeth
District number -
County London
Country England
Volume 4
Volume as transcribed 4
Page number 346

Maddie

Maddie Report 26 Mar 2018 11:47

1871

1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Purbeck Place, St John the Evangelist, St George Hanover Square, London &
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Thomas Murray Boarder - Male 55 1816 - Ireland
Transcription
Edward Murray Boarder - Male 19 1852 - Surrey, England

1881
41, Page Street, St Margaret and St John the Evangelist Westminster, St George Hanover Square, London & Middlesex, England

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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Birth place Occupation
Edward Murray Head Married Male 30 1851 Lambeth, Surrey, England Stone Mason
Transcription
Emma Murray Wife Married Female 25 1856 Isle of Wight, Hampshire, England -
Transcription
Joseph Potter Brother In Law Single Male 24 1857 Winchester, Hampshire, England Laborer
Transcription
David Potter Brother In Law Single Male 15 1866 Stanley, Staffordshire, England Errand Boy
Transcription
Lyssie Potter Sister In L Single Female 17 1864 Stanley, Staffordshire, England Domestic Servant

both say Surrey

Sheila

Sheila Report 26 Mar 2018 12:00

Thanks Nyx & Maddie. I will follow these up . The Murray, Edward Attridge 1850 & Michael marriage to Jane Attredge looks a possibility despite difference in birth year.

AustinQ

AustinQ Report 26 Mar 2018 12:03

Not the Murray/ Dearlove birth- this is them in 1861:

1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
1, Pundersons Gardens, Bethnal Green, London & Middlesex, England

John Murray Head Married Male 50 1811 Card Cutter Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Scotland
Harriet Murray Wife Married Female 51 1810 Silk Winder Reading, Berkshire, England
Thomas G Murray Son Unmarried Male 18 1843 Mattress Maker Spitalfields, Middlesex, England
Sophia Murray Daughter Unmarried Female 14 1847 Silk Winder Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England
Arthur Murray Son Unmarried Male 12 1849 Card Cutter Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England
Edwin Murray Son Unmarried Male 9 1852 Scholar Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England

AustinQ

AustinQ Report 26 Mar 2018 12:06

Wondered if this was the Murray/ Attridge birth (image is difficult to read):

Name: Edwd Murray
Age: 16 Mo
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1850
Relation: Son
Father's name: Mettle Murray
Mother's name: Jane Murray
Gender: Male
Where born: Christchurch, Surrey, England
Civil Parish: Southwark Christ Church
Town: Surrey
County/Island: Surrey
Registration district: St Saviour Southwark
Sub-registration district: Christchurch
ED, institution, or vessel: 04
Household schedule number: 258
Piece: 1557
Folio: 155
Page Number: 46
Household Members:
Name Age
Mettle Murray 22 Stonemason Ireland
Jane Murray 22 Surrey
Edwd Murray 16 Mo Christchurch, Surrey

Rambling

Rambling Report 26 Mar 2018 12:10

?

1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Great Charlotte Street Blackfriars Road, Christchurch, St Saviour Southwark, London & Surrey, England


Mickle Murrey Head Married Male 22 1829 Stonemason Clennell, Northumberland, England Transcription
Jane Murrey Wife Married Female 22 1829 - Westminster, Surrey, England Transcription
Edward Murrey Son - Male 1 1850 - Christchurch, Surrey, England

Rambling

Rambling Report 26 Mar 2018 12:11

Snap AustinQ :-)

AustinQ

AustinQ Report 26 Mar 2018 12:12

Yes- snap. Except the original gives Mickle as born in Ireland

Rambling

Rambling Report 26 Mar 2018 12:12

Austin Q can you make out the place in Ireland? maybe Clonmel?

AustinQ

AustinQ Report 26 Mar 2018 12:14

Nyx- I was just going to ask the same. Thought it looked like Clunmell- so Clonmel could be right

Rambling

Rambling Report 26 Mar 2018 12:17

I think it might be :-)

AustinQ

AustinQ Report 26 Mar 2018 12:19

So, although the age is out, is it Michael (Mary's son)- has he been added on the 1851 census twice? Both born in Ireland, both Stonemasons, both married.

I think the family were from Clonmel too.

Rambling

Rambling Report 26 Mar 2018 13:18

EDIT no not this one!
Possible for Jane Attridge?

London, Docklands And East End Baptisms

First name(s) Jane
Last name Attridge
Birth year 1828
Birth date 10/09/1828
Baptism year 1835
Baptism date 08 Jul 1835
Address 6 New Street
Father's first name(s) William
Father's occupation Coal Whipper
Mother's first name(s) Jane
Parish St Paul, Shadwell
Church address The Highway
County Middlesex
Country England
Record set London, Docklands And East End Baptisms
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Parish Baptisms
Collections from England, Great Britain

AustinQ

AustinQ Report 26 Mar 2018 13:22

Sorry- had a visitor. Still looking it this:

Marriage:
Name: Michael Murray (mason)
Abode: 24 Lambeth Walk
Gender: Male
Record Type: Marriage
Marriage Date: 10 May 1847
Marriage Place: St Mary, Lambeth, Lambeth, England
Father: John Murray (mason)
Spouse: Jane Attridge
Abode: 19 Lambeth Walk
Spouse father: James Attridge (deceased) labourer
Register Type: Parish Register
Both of full age
Witnesses: ? Gawlor & Elizabeth Powell
-------------------------------

But then these possible births also?

MURRAY, JAMES ATTRIDGE
GRO Reference: 1848 J Quarter in WESTMINSTER Volume 01 Page 421

MURRAY, MARGARET ATTRIDGE
GRO Reference: 1852 D Quarter in WESTMINSTER Volume 01A Page 217

Rambling

Rambling Report 26 Mar 2018 13:27

Austin , this may be the death for margaret?

MURRAY, MARGARET 0 Order
GRO Reference: 1853 M Quarter in WESTMINSTER Volume 01A Page 163

Rambling

Rambling Report 26 Mar 2018 13:29

a couple of possible's for James?

MURRAY, JAMES 1 Order
GRO Reference: 1850 J Quarter in SAINT JAMES WESTMINSTER Volume 01 Page 76