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I am looking for details of the Father of (Emily Maud Stanhope born 1864). On her marriage certificate at St Marys Lambeth London in 1885 his name is given as Walter White Stanhope Occupation Cellarman Deceased Thanks Pam

Birth for Emily with Mothers maiden name

STANHOPE, EMILY MAUD HOWELL Order
GRO Reference: 1864 M Quarter in WESTMINSTER Volume 01A Page 338

Gives this marriage

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Marriages Mar 1859 (>99%)
Howell Esther Matilda Westminster
Stanhope Walter Wade Westminster 1a 390


Andy

Maybe his death

Deaths Sep 1870 (>99%)
Stanhope Walter Wade 42 St. Giles 1b 341

Andy

First name(s) Walter Wade
Last name Stanhope
Birth year 1828
Death year -
Burial year 1870
Burial date 27 Jul 1870
Year 1870
Place Brompton
Age 42
Residence 43 Bloomsbury Street, Bloomsbury
County Middlesex
Country England
Document type Burials
Burial number(s) 60844, 59268
Print number 59268
Burial register number 60844
Piece description Brompton Cemetery burial book no. 203, references 59201-59499



First name(s) Walter Wade
Last name Stanhope
Age 31
Birth year 1828
Residence -
Marriage year 1859
Parish St John the Evangelist, Smith Square
Spouse's first name(s) Esther Matilda
Spouse's last name Howell
Spouse's age 18
Spouse's birth year 1841
Spouse residence -

Another child of the marriage

First name(s) Esther Matilda
Last name Stanhope
Birth year 1861
Birth date 10 Jul 1861
Baptism year 1861
Baptism date 31 Jul 1861
Father's first name(s) Walter
Mother's first name(s) Esther Matilda
Parish St Peter, Eaton Square, Pimlico
County Middlesex
Country England
Archive City of Westminster Archives Centre

SADLY........................
First name(s) Esther Matilda
Last name Stanhope
Age 3
Birth year 1862
Death year 1865
Death date ? ? 1865
Burial year 1865
Burial date 31 Jan 1865
Place Hackney, Victoria Park Cemetery
Burial place as transcribed London
Denomination -
County Middlesex
Country England

1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Willow Street, St Margaret, St George Hanover Square, London & Middlesex, England

Esther Stanhope Head - Female 29 Widow 1842 - Middlesex, England
Anne Howell Mother - Female 68 Widow 1803 - Surrey, England




Esther re-married in 1872....


Esther Matilda Stanhope in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Marriage Index, 1837-1915
Name: Esther Matilda Stanhope
Registration Year: 1872
Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep
Registration district: St Saviour Southwark
Parishes for this Registration District: View Ecclesiastical Parishes associated with this Registration District
Inferred County: London
Volume: 1d
Page: 84
Records on Page:
Name
James Record
Esther Matilda Stanhope

1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
6, Fountain Street, Lambeth, London & Surrey, England

James Record Head Married Male 62 1839 Southwark, Surrey, England Labourer General
Esther M Record Wife Married Female 59 1842 Westminster, Middlesex, England Tailoress
Arthur J Record Son Single Male 18 1883 Lambeth, Surrey, England Grocers Assistant

1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
30, Newport Street, Lambeth, London & Surrey, England

James Record Head Married Male 43 1838 Lambeth, Surrey, England Iron Moulder
Ester Record Wife Married Female 39 1842 Westminster, Middlesex, England Tayloress

1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Glasshouse Street, Lambeth, London & Surrey, England

James Record Head Married Male 54 1837 London, Middlesex, England Iron Moulder
Esther Record Wife Married Female 49 1842 London, Middlesex, England Tailoress
Arthur Record Son Single Male 8 1883 London, Middlesex, England -

Second marriage for Esther


Name: Esther Matilda Stanhope
[Esther Matilda Howell]
Gender: Female
Record Type: Marriage
Marriage Date: 30 Sep 1872
Marriage Place: Holy Trinity, Newington, Southwark, England
Father: John Howell
Spouse: James Record
Register Type: Parish Register

RECORD, ARTHUR JAMES MMN HOWELL
GRO Reference: 1882 S Quarter in LAMBETH Volume 01D Page 373


Arthur James Record in the London, England, Church of England Births and Baptisms, 1813-1916
Name: Arthur James Record
Gender: Male
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 18 Oct 1882
Baptism Place: Lambeth St Mary the Less, Lambeth, England
Father: James Record
Mother: Esther Matilda Record
Register Type: Parish Registers

1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Smith Place, Saint Margaret Westminster, Westminster, London & Middlesex, England

John Howell Head Married Male 48 1803 Labourer Lowdham, Kent, England
Ann Howell Wife Married Female 43 1808 - Rotherhithe, Surrey, England
Mary Howell Daughter - Female 19 1832 Needle Worker Greenwich, Kent, England
Esther Howell Daughter - Female 9 1842 Scholar Westminster, Middlesex, England
Louisa Howell Grand Daughter - Female 1 1850 - Westminster, Middlesex, England

(I can't seem to find the Howell family on the 1841 census)


Westminster Baptisms Transcription
First name(s) Esther
Last name Howell
Birth year 1841
Birth date 18 Jun 1841
Baptism year 1841
Baptism date 20 Dec 1841
Father's first name(s) John
Mother's first name(s) Ann
Parish St John the Evangelist, Smith Square
County Middlesex
Country England
Page 126
Archive City of Westminster Archives Centre
Record set Westminster Baptisms
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Parish Baptisms
Collections from England, Great Britain


Mary Ann Howell in the England, Select Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
Name: Mary Ann Howell
Gender: Female
Birth Date: 22 Oct 1831
Baptism Date: 14 Nov 1831
Baptism Place: St Alphage,Greenwich,Kent,England
Father: John Howell
Mother: Ann


1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
8, Lewisham Street, St Margarets, Westminster, London & Middlesex, England

John Howell Head Married Male 56 1805 Labourer Lewisham, Kent, England
Ann Howell Wife Married Female 55 1806 - Rosherville, Surrey, England
Louisa Howell Granddaughter - Female 11 1850 - Westmorland, England

Grandaughter Louisa was illegitmate...

HOWELL, LOUISA ANN - (No father named)
GRO Reference: 1850 M Quarter in WESTMINSTER Volume 01 Page

Possibly Mary's daughter??

I can't seem to find Walter and Esther on the 1861 census.

??

1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
White Hart Lane, Hornchurch Town Ward South, Romford, Essex, England

Ann Stanhope Head Widow Female 68 Widow 1783 - Willingale, Essex, England
Walter Stanhope Son Unmarried Male 23 1828 Agl Labr Hornchurch, Essex, England
Lawrence Stanhope Son Unmarried Male 19 1832 Agl Labr Hornchurch, Essex, England
John Gardiner Lodger Widower Male 70 1781 Agl Labr Lexden, Essex, England
John Skingley Lodger Unmarried Male 19 1832 Agl Labr Writtle, Essex, England


1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
White Hart Lane, Hornchurch, Romford, Essex, England

Joseph Stanhope Male Ag Lab 55 1786 -
Ann Stanhope Female 55 1786 Essex, England
Joseph Stanhope Male 15 1826 Essex, England
Walter Stanhope Male 13 1828 Essex, England
Lawrence Stanhope Male 9 1832 Essex, England
Peter Harrington Male 20 1821 Ireland
George Miller Male 30 1811 Ireland
James Ketch Male 15 1826 -


Deaths Dec 1848 (>99%)
Stanhope Joseph Romford 12 153

Emily Maud Stanhope was married on 29th March 1885 I have the marriage certificate Her Father is not Walter Wade Stanhope. Thanks for all your help

Hi Pamela

Emily's baptism record......

Westminster Baptisms Transcription

First name(s) Emily Maud
Last name Stanhope
Birth year 1864
Birth date ? ? 1864
Baptism year 1864
Baptism date 24 Apr 1864
Father's first name(s) Walter (Cellar Man) South Bond Court? Francis Street.
Mother's first name(s) Esther Matilda <<<<<<
Parish St Stephen, Rochester Row
County Middlesex
Country England
Page 229
Archive City of Westminster Archives Centre
Record set Westminster Baptisms
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Parish Baptisms
Collections from England, Great Britain

Perhaps that might convince you that her father was Walter "Wade" Stanhope and not Walter "White" Stanhope even though his middle name is written as "White" on the marriage record??

Prickles ;o))

Thank you I will look at this in more depth Pam

Note that on the 1851 and 1841 census records i posted for Walter Stanhope.....

Born 1828 Hornchurch, Essex.

On the 1871 census, Emily Maud is Neice to James and Emma Hope.

Emma Hope....Born 1822 Hornchurch, Essex

James and Emma on the 1851 census.....

1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Chalk, North Aylesford, Kent, England

James Hope Head Married Male 32 1819 Railway Labourer Kent, England
Emma Hope Wife Married Female 29 1822 - Hornchurch, Essex, England
Henry Hope Son - Male 1 1850 - Higham, Kent, England

The son Henry......

HOPE, HENRY JAMES Mothers Maiden Name...STANHOPE
GRO Reference: 1850 M Quarter in NORTH AYLESFORD Volume 05 Page 455

So it would seem then that Walter and Emma were siblings.

Frustrating that i still can't find Walter and Esther on the 1861 census.

??

England & Wales marriages 1837-2005 Transcription
First name(s) EMMA
Last name STANHOPE
Marriage quarter 3
Marriage year 1839
Registration month -
MarriageFinder™ EMMA STANHOPE married James Hope
District Romford
District number -
County Essex
Country England
Volume 12
Volume as transcribed 12
Page number 355
Record set England & Wales Marriages 1837-2005
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Civil Marriage & Divorce
Collections from Great Britain, England

The child not named on this registration.....

HOPE, - MMN STANHOPE
GRO Reference: 1848 J Quarter in NORTH AYLESFORD Volume 05 Page 438

Matilda M who appears on the 1871 census....

HOPE, MATILDA MARGARET MMN STANHOPE
GRO Reference: 1852 J Quarter in DARTFORD UNION Volume 02A Page 206

On 1859 Westminster Marriage posted above, Walter occ. Cellarman, his Father, Joseph Stanhope occ. Servant. Wits. Ann Wilks, Emma Howell)

(Walter Wade on image!)


(1864 Baptism, Emily Maud, Walter occ. Cellarman)

Chris :)

https://www.freereg.org.uk/

(possibly Essex/Kent on above relating, James/Emma Hope)