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Maddie

Maddie Report 11 May 2018 14:15

since the boards are so quiet please could you help tie up some loose ends

sydney patchett born 31.8.1907 in leeds baptised 1908 died 1961 leeds probate to Eunice

1939 regs
Residence
1939 • 2 Arundell Mount , Leeds C.B., Yorkshire (West Riding), England

Sydney J Patchett 31 Aug 1907 Male ??? Married 282 1 Winifred Newsham (Barratt,Catchett) 16 Nov 1916 Female Unpaid Domestic Married 282 2 Sorry, this record is officially closed. Check if you can open a closed record.

( where the J came from i don't know unless a differerent sydney)


Can't find a marriage to sydney
Did they have a child ?

Sydney remarried in 1950
Sydney Patchett
Date of Registration 1950 - Jan-Feb-Mar[1950]
Registration district Leeds
Inferred County Yorkshire West Riding
Spouse Eunice Gill Or Carter
Volume Number 2c
Page number 608
Patchett, Gill Or Carter - 2c 608

1939 for Eunice
1939 • 12 School Grove , Prestwich M.B., Lancashire, England

Eunice Carter 17 Mar 1912 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 185 2 John H Carter 23 Dec 1913 Male ??? Married 185 1

her first marrriage
Doris E Gill
Date of Registration 1926 - Jan-Feb-Mar[1926]
Registration district Lancaster
Inferred County Lancashire
Spouse John H Carter
Volume Number 8e
Page number 979
Gill, Carter - 8e 979
she died 1971 leeds

where was she born ?
what happened to John H Carter?
thanks
maddie

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 11 May 2018 14:19

Have you looked for a birth for Doris Eunice?

And a death for John Carter? Perhaps in WW2?

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 11 May 2018 14:26

I find it odd that the 1939 doesn't indicate that she married again

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 11 May 2018 14:30

If she was born in 1912, and John in December1913, is it likely that they married in 1926?

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 11 May 2018 14:35

Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1926
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
CARTER John Heaton GILL Doris Ellen Lancaster, Heysham, St Peter Preston CE8/2/101

Rules out that marriage

Maddie

Maddie Report 11 May 2018 14:36

can't doris's birth
two john h death 1941
one born derby , the other preston

i think her first marriage was in lancaster but i may well have got it wrong

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 11 May 2018 14:38

You've jumped to wrong conclusions, I fear, and didn't give enough thought to the ages of the people concerned

Suggest you need the 1950 marriage cert for accurate info

No reason, as far as I can see, to think that Eunice had more than one forename

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 11 May 2018 14:43

Winifred's remarriage

Looks like the 'J' is actually her initial

Marriages Mar 1948 (>99%)

Horsman Winifred J Newsham Leeds 2c 687
Newsham Alfred Patchett Leeds 2c 687
Newsham Alfred Horsman Leeds 2c 687
Patchett Winifred J Newsham Leeds 2c 687

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 11 May 2018 14:44

Sydney's first marriage

Marriages Jun 1936 (>99%)
Horsman Winifred J Padgett Leeds North 9b 895
Padgett Sydney Horsman Leeds North 9b 895


One - possibly two - children of the marriage. Info on freebmd

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 11 May 2018 14:50

Eunice's death - note D.O.B

First name(s) EUNICE
Last name PATCHETT
Gender Female
Birth day 27
Birth month 12
Birth year 1913
Age -
Death quarter 2
Death year 1971
District Leeds
County Yorkshire
Volume 2C
Page 662
Country England

Maddie

Maddie Report 11 May 2018 14:54

thank you for winifreds marriage and eunices death

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 11 May 2018 14:56

THIS is Eunice in 1939

Hanagan Household (2 People)
2 Pavillion Street , Doncaster C.B., Yorkshire (West Riding), England


Eunice Gill 27 Dec 1913 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 214 2
Ethel Hanagan 11 Jan 1887 Female Grocer & Provision Dealer Married 214 1

The older woman's surname MAY be Flanagan - the writing isn't very clear

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 11 May 2018 14:58

Have you noted all the other info?

Maddie

Maddie Report 11 May 2018 15:07

i have thank you
absorbing it a bit at a time
old grey cellsslowing down :-)

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 11 May 2018 15:10

Marriages Mar 1939 (>99%)
Carter Eunice Gill Doncaster 9c 961
Gill Alan Carter Doncaster 9c 961

Possibly one child in 1941 - see freebmd

Maddie

Maddie Report 11 May 2018 15:20

thank you

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 11 May 2018 15:21

Births Mar 1914 (>99%)
CARTER Eunice Benn Bradford 9b 152

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 11 May 2018 15:23

Parents

Marriages Sep 1906 (>99%)
Benn Sarah Annie Bradford 9b 185
CARTER Edgar Bradford 9b 185 S

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 11 May 2018 15:26

Carter appears to have been her maiden surname, per a correction someone has made to Eunice Carter's marriage to Sydney on Ancestry.

Eunice's name was mis-transcribed as Eunie, and someone has added:

"Transcription error from records her name was Eunice Carter - she was my Aunt.
Written by Pauline Darling nee Carter born . . . [I've deleted date] . . . . . to Edgar Carter and Lilian Saville Carter nee bedford nee Nicholson."


EDIT:

Was just about to post her first marriage, but I see you've done that, Erika.

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 11 May 2018 15:26

A sibling of Eunice's

First name(s) EDGAR
Last name CARTER
Birth year 1912
Birth quarter 1
Registration month -
Mother's last name Benn
District Bradford
County Yorkshire
Country England
Volume 9B
Page 201



1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
80 Folkestone St Bradford, Bradford, Yorkshire & Yorkshire (West Riding), England

Edgar Carter Head Married Male 28 1883 Calverley Yorkshire Pawnbroker Manager Transcription
Annie Carter Wife Married Female 25 1886 Pudsey Yorkshire - Transcription
Allen Carter Son - Male 4 1907 Bradford Yorkshire - Transcription
Phyllis Carter Daughter - Female 2 1909 Leeds Yorkshire


Births
CARTER, PHYLLIS BENN Order
GRO Reference: 1909 M Quarter in LEEDS Volume 09B Page 450

CARTER, ALLAN BENN BENN Order
GRO Reference: 1907 J Quarter in BRADFORD Volume 09B Page 26