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Member Since: May 2007 Posts: 130 Send Message	caza	Report	30 May 2018 11:02
Member Since: May 2007 Posts: 130 Send Message	Can anyone help please Margaret seator and John rendall married 1843 downloaded the marriage certificate from Scotland people and only gives me their marriage no other info really was looking to see who Margaret's parents were any help welcomed thank you
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 12,337 Send Message	alviegal	Report	30 May 2018 11:36
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 12,337 Send Message	So here is the marriage to let us know which area we are looking at. First name(s) Margaret Last name Seator Marriage year 1843 Marriage date 14 Jan 1843 Marriage place Westray And Papa Westray,Orkney,Scotland Spouse's first name(s) John Spouse's last name Rendall Place Westray and Papa Westray County Orkney Country Scotland
Member Since: May 2007 Posts: 130 Send Message	caza	Report	30 May 2018 11:46
Member Since: May 2007 Posts: 130 Send Message	Looking for Margaret's parents she was b1823 orkney
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 12,337 Send Message	alviegal	Report	30 May 2018 12:00
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 12,337 Send Message	Is this her in 1851 please? 1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Tirlot, Westray, Orkney, Scotland First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place John Rendall Head Married Male 45 1806 Farmer (Of 40 Ac Employing 4 Lab) Westray, Orkney, Scotland Transcription Margaret Rendall Wife Married Female 29 1822 Farmers Wife Westray, Orkney, Scotland Transcription Isabella Rendall Daughter - Female 7 1844 Daur Westray, Orkney, Scotland Transcription Mary Rendall Daughter - Female 4 1847 Daur Westray, Orkney, Scotland Transcription Robina Rendall Daughter - Female 0 1851 Daur Westray, Orkney, Scotland Transcription William Rendall Father Widower Male 77 1774 Formerly Farmer Westray, Orkney, Scotland Transcription Elen Cray Servant Unmarried Female 25 1826 House Serv Orkney, Scotland Just getting a feel for the names. 1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Tirlot, Westray, Orkney, Scotland Learn more Print Add to tree Household Members First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place John Rendall Head Married Male 54 1807 Farmer Of 35 Acres Westray, Orkney, Scotland Transcription Margaret Rendall Wife Married Female 40 1821 Farmer's Wife Westray, Orkney, Scotland Transcription Isabella Rendall Daughter Unmarried Female 17 1844 Farmer's Daur Westray, Orkney, Scotland Transcription Mary Rendall Daughter - Female 14 1847 Farmer's Daur Westray, Orkney, Scotland Transcription Robinna Rendall Daughter - Female 10 1851 - Westray, Orkney, Scotland Transcription George Rendall Son - Male 7 1854 - Westray, Orkney, Scotland Transcription John Rendall Son - Male 5 1856 - Westray, Orkney, Scotland Transcription Helen Rendall Daughter - Female 2 1859 - Westray, Orkney, Scotland Transcription James Rendall Son - Male 0 1861 - Westray, Orkney, Scotland
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 12,337 Send Message	alviegal	Report	30 May 2018 12:21
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 12,337 Send Message	John in 1841. Strange none of the children are named after his parents. 1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Tinlot, Westray, Orkney, Scotland First name(s) Last name Sex Age Birth year Birth place William Rendal Male 60 1781 Orkney, Scotland Transcription Margaret Rendal Female 65 1776 Orkney, Scotland Transcription John Rendal Male 35 1806 Orkney, Scotland Transcription Nelly Rendal Female 20 1821 Orkney, Scotland Possible Margaret in 1841. Doesn't help with her parents though. 1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Gorn, Westray, Orkney, Scotland First name(s) Last name Sex Age Birth year Birth place George Grey Male 60 1781 Orkney, Scotland Transcription Barbra Grey Female 65 1776 Orkney, Scotland Transcription William Rendall Male 20 1821 Orkney, Scotland Transcription >>Margaret Seater Female 20 1821 Orkney, Scotland Transcription Robert Rendall Male 20 1821 Orkney, Scotland Transcription Barbra Rendall Female 25 1816 Orkney, Scotland
Member Since: May 2007 Posts: 130 Send Message	caza	Report	30 May 2018 12:26
Member Since: May 2007 Posts: 130 Send Message	Census for Margaret is correct
Member Since: August 2003 Posts: 63,322 Send Message	ErikaH	Report	30 May 2018 13:09
	Civil registration didn't start in Scotland until 1st Jan 1855, so the info you have is a parish record, and not a cert
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 12,337 Send Message	alviegal	Report	30 May 2018 13:19
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 12,337 Send Message	Children's births. Isabella RENDALL (F).................. B: 3 Dec 1843 Ba: Father: John RENDALL Westray And Papa Westray, Orkney, Mother: Margaret SEATOR Scotland Isabella RENDALL (F).................. B: 5 Dec 1843 Father: John Armit RENDALL Westray And Papa Westray, Orkney, Mother: Margaret SEATOR Scotland Mary RENDALL (F)...................... B: 25 Jul 1846 Father: John RENDALL Westray And Papa Westray, Orkney, Mother: Margaret SEATOR William RENDALL (M)................... B: 22 Aug 1848 Father: John RENDALL Westray And Papa Westray, Orkney, Mother: Margaret SEATOR Scotland Robina Seator RENDALL (F)............. B: 30 Sep 1850 Father: John RENDALL Westray And Papa Westray, Orkney, Mother: Margaret SEATOR Scotland George Drever RENDALL (M)............. B: 12 Jan 1854 Father: John RENDALL Westray And Papa Westray, Orkney, Mother: Margaret SEATOR Scotland John RENDALL (M)...................... B: 14 May 1856 Father: John RENDALL Westray And Papa Westray, Orkney, Mother: Margaret SEATOR Scotland Ellen Eackirn RENDALL (F)............. B: 28 Jun 1858 Father: John RENDALL Westray And Papa Westray, Orkney, Mother: Margaret SEATOR Scotland Janet Seatter RENDALL (F)............. B: 30 Aug 1863 Father: John RENDALL Westray And Papa Westray, Orkney, Mother: Margart SEATTER Scotland Margaret Scott RENDALL (F)............ B: 8 Jan 1867 Father: John RENDALL Westray And Papa Westray, Orkney, Mother: Margaret SEATTER Scotland Have to go out for a wee while but will be back soon.
Member Since: May 2007 Posts: 130 Send Message	caza	Report	30 May 2018 13:28
Member Since: May 2007 Posts: 130 Send Message	Thank you have the children's births already trying to progress back the way
Member Since: August 2003 Posts: 63,322 Send Message	ErikaH	Report	30 May 2018 13:29
	Records suggest that she was born no later than 1821
Member Since: October 2004 Posts: 8,837 Send Message	malyon	Report	30 May 2018 13:56
	could this be connected Frances Seator Scotland Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950 Name: Frances Seator Gender: Female Christening Date: 10 Aug 1821 Christening Place: WESTRAY AND PAPA WESTRAY,ORKNEY,SCOTLAND Father's Name: James Seator Mother's Name: Catharine Rendall
Member Since: October 2004 Posts: 8,837 Send Message	malyon	Report	30 May 2018 13:59
	Margret Seater Scotland Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950 Name: Margret Seater Gender: Female Christening Date: 18 Apr 1821 Christening Place: WESTRAY AND PAPA WESTRAY,ORKNEY,SCOTLAND Father's Name: Robert Seater Mother's Name: Marion Harcus
Member Since: March 2003 Posts: 26,050 Send Message	ArgyllGran	Report	30 May 2018 14:44
	?? SEATER MARGRET ROBERT SEATER/ANN DREVER FR104 (FR104) F 12/12/1820 033/ 10 95 Westray and Papa Westray
	Researching: Old genealogists never die.....they just lose their census.
Member Since: March 2003 Posts: 26,050 Send Message	ArgyllGran	Report	30 May 2018 14:49
	Marriages of the two possible sets of parents: SEATER ROBERT MARY ANN/HARCUS FR1247 (FR1247) 24/11/1814 021/ 40 329 Kirkwall and two entries for the other one: SEATER ROBERT ANN DREVER/FR144 (FR144) 09/11/1817 033/ 10 135 Westray and Papa Westray SEATOR ROBERT ANN DREVER/FR262 (FR262) 09/11/1817 033/ 10 317 Westray and Papa Westray Of course it's also possible that your Margaret isn't either of those whose records show on SP.
	Researching: Old genealogists never die.....they just lose their census.
Member Since: August 2007 Posts: 10,049 Send Message	safc	Report	30 May 2018 15:04
	1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Tirlot, Westray & Papa Westray, Westray, Orkney, Scotland Learn more Print Add to tree Household Members First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Birth place Occupation Margaret Rendall Head Widow Female 70 1821 Orkney, Scotland Farmers Widow Transcription George Rendall Son Unmarried Male 37 1854 Orkney, Scotland Farm Servant Transcription Jessie Harcus Daughter Married Female 27 1864 Orkney, Scotland - Transcription Andrew Harcus Son-In-Law Married Male 34 1857 Westray, Orkney, Scotland Fisherman Transcription Andrew Harcus Grandson - Male 1 1890 Westray, Orkney, Scotland -
	Researching: Abby says please do not send messages to safc, always reply on your thread, as Abby is just a paying member of genes reunited. helping other members. thank you.
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 12,337 Send Message	alviegal	Report	30 May 2018 15:09
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 12,337 Send Message	I understand that you have the births of the children but sometimes middle names are a big help in finding which family names are relevant to their particular branch of the family. In this case, we have Scott, Eachim and Seatter and Drever. A lot of families also stuck to the Scottish naming pattern. First son is named for the Father's Father. Second son is named for the Mother's Father. Third son is named for the Father's Father's Father. Fourth son is named for the Mother's Mother's Father. Fifth son is named for the Father's Mother's Father. Sixth son is named for the Mother's Father's Father. Seventh through Tenth sons are named for the Father's Great-Grandfathers. Tenth through Fourteenth sons for the Mother's Great-Grandfathers. First daughter is named for the Mother's Mother. Second daughter is named for the Father's Mother. Third daughter is named for the Mother's Father's Mother. Fourth daughter is named for the Father's Father's Mother. Fifth daughter is named for the Mother's Mother's Mother. Sixth daughter is named for the Father's Mother's Mother. Seventh through tenth daughters are named for the Mother's Great-Grandmothers. Tenth through fourteenth daughters for the Father's Great-Grandmothers. NOTES: In some cases you will find that the order is reversed with the first and second children, i.e. the first-born son being named after the mother's father and the second-born son after the father's father. If this is the case then the daughters are also usually reversed. You will also find instances where a child is named 'out of pattern', after an aunt or uncle who has died, or after an admired other relative or friend of the parent. If a child dies in infancy, his or her name is often given to a subsequent child - a natural consequence of the high birth rate and infant mortality rates of past times. These are only general guidelines and were certainly not always followed. From http://www.halmyre.abel.co.uk/Family/naming.htm
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 12,337 Send Message	alviegal	Report	30 May 2018 15:38
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 12,337 Send Message	This is the details from their gravestone. Death certificates name the parents on them. John Rendall grave monument in Cross Kirk Tuquoy Church burial ground, Westray, Orkney Islands, Scotland full name burial date age birth date relationship John Rendall 05 November 1875 68 1807 first name on monument John Rendall 21 November 1885 29 1856 son of John Rendall George Rendall 22 May 1921 67 1854 son of John Rendall Margaret Rendall nee Seater 24 October 1915 94 1821 wife of John Rendall RENDALL MARGARET 94 1915 033/1 22 Westray from scotlandspeople
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 10,619 Send Message	greyghost	Report	30 May 2018 16:32
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 10,619 Send Message	Had a few spare credits - Margaret Rendall widow of John Rendall a Crofter Died October 24th -- hour 0 minutes at Tirlot, Westside, Westray aged 94 Father - Robert Seater deceased Mother - Marion Seatter maiden surname Harcus deceased Cause of death - Senile Decay Informant - Andrew Harcus grandson - present at death ------------ Death below - Thomas Rendall single aged 1 year died 9 November s/o James Rendall Farm Servant and Annie Jean Rendall nee Harcus Cause - Intersusception ------------------- Lots of common names within families in a small community! Information and pictures re address given for place of death are on google
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 10,619 Send Message	greyghost	Report	30 May 2018 16:44
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 10,619 Send Message	I know this has been posted but other records have Marion and Mary Ann but Mary Ann // Marion would sound similar when spoken Surname Forename Spouse Name Date Parish Number Ref Parish SEATER ROBERT MARY ANN/HARCUS FR1247 (FR1247) 24/11/1814 021/ 40 329 Kirkwall
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 10,619 Send Message	greyghost	Report	30 May 2018 16:49
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 10,619 Send Message	SEATER ISABEL ROBERT SEATER/MARION HARCUS FR142 (FR142) F 04/04/1817 033/ 10 132 Westray and Papa Westray SEATER ISOBEL ROBERT SEATER/MARION HARCUS FR102 (FR102) F 04/04/1817 033/ 10 93 Westray and Papa Westray SEATER JEAN ROBERT SEATER/MARION HARCUS FR274 (FR274) F 21/04/1819 033/ 10 329 Westray and Papa Westray SEATER MARGRET ROBERT SEATER/MARION HARCUS FR104 (FR104) F 18/04/1821 033/ 10 95 Westray and Papa Westray this last posted previously but here in the order of births to the same parents to show the family.

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