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Member Since: October 2004 Posts: 863 Send Message	John	Report	21 Jun 2018 22:06
Member Since: October 2004 Posts: 863 Send Message	I need some help please trying to find a marriage for a Thomas Russell and Susan or Susannah Saunders, 1st child listed on 1851 stated being born 1843 Longfield Kent. Thomas Russell b 1812 Meopham Kent and Susan Russell /Saunders born Hoo Kent. Just unable to find a marriage for them. Many thanks
Member Since: August 2007 Posts: 10,049 Send Message	safc	Report	21 Jun 2018 22:12
	Baptism entry While we have made all efforts to correctly record the information in the original docucument there may be different interpretations of the written words. If you have access to the original document and believe we have made a mistake you are encouraged to report this to us. Report an Error in this Data Field (only fields with a value are shown) Value County Kent Place (with link) Longfield Church name (with link) St Mary Magdalene Register type (with link) Parish Register Register entry number 139 Baptism date 7 Jul 1844 Person forename Charlotte Person sex F Father forename John Mother forename Susan Saunders Father surname RUSSELL Person abode Longfield Father occupation Labourer Transcribed by James Stephenson Credit James Stephenson File line number 138
	Researching: Abby says please do not send messages to safc, always reply on your thread, as Abby is just a paying member of genes reunited. helping other members. thank you.
Member Since: August 2007 Posts: 10,049 Send Message	safc	Report	21 Jun 2018 22:12
	Baptism entry While we have made all efforts to correctly record the information in the original docucument there may be different interpretations of the written words. If you have access to the original document and believe we have made a mistake you are encouraged to report this to us. Report an Error in this Data Field (only fields with a value are shown) Value County Kent Place (with link) Longfield Church name (with link) St Mary Magdalene Register type (with link) Parish Register Register entry number 140 Baptism date 7 Jul 1844 Person forename Mary Person sex F Father forename John Mother forename Susan Saunders Father surname RUSSELL Person abode Longfield Father occupation Labourer Transcribed by James Stephenson Credit James Stephenson File line number 139
	Researching: Abby says please do not send messages to safc, always reply on your thread, as Abby is just a paying member of genes reunited. helping other members. thank you.
Member Since: August 2003 Posts: 63,322 Send Message	ErikaH	Report	21 Jun 2018 22:23
	Where are they in 1841 According to 1851, Susan was born c1825
Member Since: August 2007 Posts: 10,049 Send Message	safc	Report	21 Jun 2018 22:30
	1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Rectory, Luddesdown, North Aylesford, Kent, England Learn more Print View image Add to tree Household Members First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place Thomas Russell Head Married Male 39 1812 Farm Labourer Meopham, Kent, England Transcription Susan Russell Wife Married Female 26 1825 - Hoo, Kent, England Transcription Mary Russell Daughter Divorced Female 8 1843 At Home Longfield, Kent, England Transcription Maria Russell Daughter - Female 5 1846 At Home Longfield, Kent, England Transcription Eliza A Russell Daughter - Female 2 1849 At Home Luddesdown, Kent, England Transcription Elizabeth Russell Daughter - Female 0 1851 At Home Luddesdown, Kent, England
	Researching: Abby says please do not send messages to safc, always reply on your thread, as Abby is just a paying member of genes reunited. helping other members. thank you.
Member Since: August 2007 Posts: 10,049 Send Message	safc	Report	21 Jun 2018 22:33
	1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Westwood, Meopham, North Aylesford, Kent, England Learn more Print View image Add to tree Household Members First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place Thomas Russell Head Married Male 47 1814 Agricultural Labourer Meopham, Kent, England Transcription James Russell Wife Married Female 37 1824 - Hoo, Kent, England Transcription Mary Russell Daughter Unmarried Female 17 1844 - Luddesdown, Kent, England Transcription Eliza Russell Daughter Unmarried Female 12 1849 - Luddesdown, Kent, England Transcription Elizabet Russell Daughter Unmarried Female 9 1852 - Luddesdown, Kent, England Transcription Martha Russell Daughter Unmarried Female 5 1856 - Ash, Kent, England Transcription Thomas Russell Son - Male 2 1859 - Luddesdown, Kent, England
	Researching: Abby says please do not send messages to safc, always reply on your thread, as Abby is just a paying member of genes reunited. helping other members. thank you.
Member Since: August 2007 Posts: 10,049 Send Message	safc	Report	21 Jun 2018 22:35
	1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Clay Lane, Cobham, North Aylesford, Kent, England Learn more Print View image Add to tree Household Members First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place Thomas Russell Head - Male 56 1815 - Kent, England Transcription Susannah Russell Wife - Female 46 1825 - Kent, England Transcription Martha Russell Daughter - Female 15 1856 - Kent, England Transcription Thomas Russell Son - Male 12 1859 - Kent, England Transcription William Russell Son - Male 9 1862 - Kent, England Transcription Amelia Russell Daughter - Female 7 1864 - Kent, England Transcription Edmond Russell Son - Male 1 1870 - Kent, England
	Researching: Abby says please do not send messages to safc, always reply on your thread, as Abby is just a paying member of genes reunited. helping other members. thank you.
Member Since: October 2004 Posts: 863 Send Message	John	Report	21 Jun 2018 23:06
Member Since: October 2004 Posts: 863 Send Message	Hi SAFC many thanks for the info, regarding the 1851 I hadn't noticed the word divorced against daughter Mary female 8 yrs,does this mean that her father was divorced or perhaps mother. Must say I have never seen this before. So now I am looking for a marriage for perhaps both parents after Mary was born
Member Since: October 2004 Posts: 863 Send Message	John	Report	21 Jun 2018 23:17
Member Since: October 2004 Posts: 863 Send Message	Re looking again ,you have found a christening for a Charlotte and a Mary Russell both on 7th July 1844 in Longfield. Now the John Russell has thrown me, could mother Susan have been married to a John Russell then got divorced and married Thomas Russell a family member. I did find a baptism for a Susan Saunders in 1824 Hoo, now her father was called John, wonder if there is a name mix up there
Member Since: August 2007 Posts: 10,049 Send Message	safc	Report	21 Jun 2018 23:22
	it does not say divorced on the census
	Researching: Abby says please do not send messages to safc, always reply on your thread, as Abby is just a paying member of genes reunited. helping other members. thank you.
Member Since: August 2007 Posts: 10,049 Send Message	safc	Report	21 Jun 2018 23:23
	Baptism entry While we have made all efforts to correctly record the information in the original docucument there may be different interpretations of the written words. If you have access to the original document and believe we have made a mistake you are encouraged to report this to us. Report an Error in this Data Field (only fields with a value are shown) Value County Kent Place (with link) Hoo St Werburgh Church name (with link) St Werburgh Register type (with link) Parish Register Register entry number 487 Baptism date 26 Dec 1824 Person forename Susan Father forename John Mother forename Susan Father surname SAUNDERS Person abode Hoo Father occupation Labourer Transcribed by Peter Honeywood Credit Peter Honeywood File line number 468 https://www.freereg.org.uk/
	Researching: Abby says please do not send messages to safc, always reply on your thread, as Abby is just a paying member of genes reunited. helping other members. thank you.
Member Since: October 2004 Posts: 863 Send Message	John	Report	21 Jun 2018 23:40
Member Since: October 2004 Posts: 863 Send Message	I haven't actually re looked on the census just saw it on the 1851 post that you posted on here, It states Mary Russell Daughter Divorced female 8 At home Longfield Kent England, so would the person who transcribed it put that in
Member Since: October 2004 Posts: 863 Send Message	John	Report	22 Jun 2018 00:32
Member Since: October 2004 Posts: 863 Send Message	ErikaH. Think I have found Thomas Russell in 1841 living with perhaps elder brother Christopher and wife Mary in Sole St Cobham Kent , their name spelt Rufsel. I also found another Thomas Russell b 1776 in 1841 census and a Sophia Russell b 1821 also living in Sole St Cobham so presume this is the father and sister of Thomas and Christopher. Regarding Susan Saunders ,in the 1841 found one living in Chatham Kent which is not far from Hoo , but although a John Saunders was living in the same street with a wife Elizabeth. Susan was living with a Steven Saunders and wife Susan she was 15, just unsure if it is the same Susan Saunders, very confusing because if you see the birth of above Susan Saunders it states father as John and mother Susan.Obviously in the 1841 it doesn't state relationship to head of household. I am completely lost on both Thomas Russell and Susan Saunders as to why cant find a marriage for them either.
Member Since: August 2003 Posts: 63,322 Send Message	ErikaH	Report	22 Jun 2018 14:18
	RUSSELL, ELIZA ANN SAUNDERS Order GRO Reference: 1848 D Quarter in NORTH AYLESFORD Volume 05 Page 428 RUSSELL, ELIZABETH SUSAN SAUNDERS Order GRO Reference: 1850 S Quarter in NORTH AYLESFORD Volume 05 Page 423
Member Since: August 2003 Posts: 63,322 Send Message	ErikaH	Report	22 Jun 2018 14:19
	I can't help thinking that the fact that the mother's maiden surname was recorded on the baptism entries indicates the absence of any marriage between her and the father of the children BTW The FMP transcriber must have been on the bottle - there is no mention of the word 'divorced' anywhere on the census return I have submitted a correction
Member Since: August 2003 Posts: 63,322 Send Message	ErikaH	Report	22 Jun 2018 16:39
	Name: Eliza Ann Russell Gender: Female Christening Date: 10 Dec 1848 Christening Place: Luddesdown, Kent, England Phillimore Ecclesiastical Parish Map: View this parish Father: Thomas Russell Mother: Susanna Russell
Member Since: August 2003 Posts: 63,322 Send Message	ErikaH	Report	22 Jun 2018 16:40
	Name: Edmund James Russell Gender: Male Birth Date: 1869 Baptism Date: 29 Aug 1869 Baptism Place: Cobham, Kent, England Father: Thomas Russell Mother: Susannah FHL Film Number: 1473678
Member Since: August 2003 Posts: 63,322 Send Message	ErikaH	Report	22 Jun 2018 17:13
	The baptism to which reference is made above First name(s) Susan Last name Saunders Gender Female Birth year - Birth place - Baptism year 1824 Baptism date 26 Dec 1824 Place Saint Werburgh Hoo County Kent Country England Father's first name(s) John Father's last name Saunders Mother's first name(s) Susan Mother's last name - Record set England Births & Baptisms 1538-1975
Member Since: October 2004 Posts: 863 Send Message	John	Report	22 Jun 2018 18:18
Member Since: October 2004 Posts: 863 Send Message	Erika Many thanks for the info you have found . I have managed to verify on Grobmd that mother is Saunders, what is baffling me is not finding a marriage and I can't find anything about Mary daug listed on 1851 census as to who her mother was. I wonder if Thomas had a previous marriage so Marys mothers name was different from rest of children. Susan seems to be known as Susannah mostly which tends to throw things.
Member Since: October 2004 Posts: 863 Send Message	John	Report	22 Jun 2018 18:26
Member Since: October 2004 Posts: 863 Send Message	Rereading other posts I see that SAFC did find a baptism for a Mary 1844 Longfield but states father John Russell and mother Susan Saunders, perhaps it's a John Thomas Russel rather than Thomas.

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