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Unfortunately there are two possible baptisms at least, c1815 in Birmingham, , for Richard Bacon, Florence Elizabeth's grandfather:
Name: Richard Bacon
Baptism Date: 6 Dec 1814
Baptism Place: Birmingham, St Martin, Warwickshire, England
Parish as it Appears: Birmingham, St Martin
Father: Richard Bacon
Mother: Elizabeth Bacon
Father a cordwainer
or this one two days earlier:
Name: Richard Bacon
Age: 0
Birth Date: 4 Dec 1814
Baptism Date: 28 Aug 1815
Baptism Place: Birmingham, St Philip, Warwickshire, England
Parish as it Appears: Birmingham, St Philip
Father: Richard Bacon
Mother: Mary Bacon
Father is also a cordwainer.
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Going back to Florence Elizabeth's Whittingham grandparents, Richard and Elizabeth .
This seems to be their son Richard jr's birth:
WHITTINGHAM, RICHARD WESTON
GRO Reference: 1856 M Quarter in WOLVERHAMPTON Volume 06B Page 363
and this is their daughter Alice's:
WHITTINGHAM, ALICE WESTON
GRO Reference: 1861 J Quarter in WOLVERHAMPTON Volume 06B Page 42
so it looks like Elizabeth Whittingham, Florence Elizabeth Bacon's grandmother, was nee Elizabeth Weston.
There is indeed a marriage of an Elizabeth Weston and Richard Whittingham:
First name(s) Richard
Last name Whittingham
Age Full Age
Marriage year 1844
Marriage date 02 Jun 1844
Marriage place Wolverhampton, St Peter
Denomination Anglican
Residence Wolverhampton
Father's first name(s) R
Father's last name Whittingham
Spouse's first name(s) Elizabeth
Spouse's last name Weston
Spouse's age Full Age
Spouse's residence Wolverhampton
Spouse's father's first name(s) J
Spouse's father's last name Weston
County Staffordshire
Country England
Both bride and groom are of full age. Richard is a mill maker, of Wolverhampton, son of R. Whittingham, a spring maker. The bride is also of Wolverhampton, daur of J Weston, a locksmith.
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Thank you all so much for all this info
Hubby's over the moon never really knew much about his mother's side .....He does now.
thanks again
Val
PS hope I can help you all one day
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Going back to Richard and Maria Bacon (Florence Elizabeth's grandparents) , I wonder if Richard were married to more than one Maria?
In census 1851 there is a large gap between son Richard born 1838, and son Thomas born c1850.
1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Court New Town Row, Birmingham, Warwickshire, England
Richard Bacon Head Married Male 36 1815 Spoon Dresser Birmingham, Warwickshire, England
Maria Bacon Wife Married Female 31 1820 - Birmingham, Warwickshire, England
Richard Bacon Son - Male 13 1838 Spoon Dresser Birmingham, Warwickshire, England
Thomas Bacon Son - Male 1 1850 - Birmingham, Warwickshire, England
I went back to the GRO to look for births for the baptisms on children of Richard and a Maria that I posted earlier:
BACON, THOMAS EGGINTON
GRO Reference: 1850 J Quarter in BIRMINGHAM Volume 16 Page 293
BACON, WILLIAM EGGINTON
GRO Reference: 1854 S Quarter in ASTON Volume 06D Page 245
BACON, MARY EGGINTON
GRO Reference: 1856 S Quarter in ASTON Volume 06D Page 253
The birth of John?
BACON, JOHN EGGINTON
GRO Reference: 1858 M Quarter in ASTON Volume 06D Page 293
BACON, SARAH MARIA EGGINTON
GRO Reference: 1861 M Quarter in ASTON Volume 06D Page 274
Yet Richard born 1838 is mother named Heely, so I guess that Maria died and Richard then married and bred with Maria Egginton.
BACON, RICHARD HEELEY
GRO Reference: 1838 S Quarter in ASTON Volume 16 Page 153
So I believe John Bacon's parents were Richard Bacon and Maria Eggington
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A possible death for the first wife of Richard Bacon, Maria nee Heely?
BACON, MARIA 28
GRO Reference: 1845 D Quarter in BIRMINGHAM Volume 16 Page 231M
Second marriage of Richard Baker to Maria Eggington (parents of John Bacon, grandparents of Florence Elizabeth)
Marriages Dec 1849
Bacon Richard Wolverhampton 17 491
Egginton Maria Wolverhampton 17 491
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More detail on the marriage of Richard Bacon to second wife Maria Eggington:
First name(s) Richard
Last name Bacon
Age 32
Birth year 1817
Marriage year 1849
Marriage date 15 Oct 1849
Marriage place Wolverhampton, St Mary
Denomination Anglican
Residence St Peters Row
Father's first name(s) Richard
Father's last name Bacon
Spouse's first name(s) Maria
Spouse's last name Egginton
Spouse's age 30
Spouse's residence St Peters Row
Spouse's father's first name(s) Thomas
Spouse's father's last name Egginton
County Staffordshire
Country England
Archive reference D1157/3/1/9
Page 7
Register type Marriage
Note we now have the name of Richard's father, another Richard Bacon.
Richard is described as a widower, a white metal smith, of St Peter's Row, and his father Richard is described as a shoemaker - so he is probably one of the cordwainers (cordwainer is an old word for a shoemaker) mentioned in the two possible baptisms I posted for Richard earlier, but no way of telling which one...
Maria is a spinster aged 30 of St Peter's Row, her father Thomas Eggington is described as a jeweller. The witnesses were Joseph Cotton and Mary Ann Cotton.
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I found this baptism for a Maria Egginton daur of a Thomas Egginton in Birmingham c1820 (as per her 1851 census entry)
Name: Maria Egginton
Age: 1
Birth Date: 8 Jan 1819
Baptism Date: 26 Dec 1820
Baptism Place: Birmingham, St Philip, Warwickshire, England
Parish as it Appears: Birmingham, St Philip
Father: Thomas Egginton<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Mother: Elizabeth Egginton<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Father a jeweller, which matches with the marriage register entry.
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Many thanks to you all Hubby is now HOOKED as well ;-)
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