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A bit of help from 1939 census please

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malyon

malyon Report 29 Aug 2018 13:46

brixton comes under lambeth i lived there in brixton reg would be lambeth

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 29 Aug 2018 10:20

The 1939 record of William G and Beatrice M is already posted on page 1 of this thread (24 July @ 22:44) - living in Carlton Road, Slough.

Beatrice's DOB 7th July 1908.

BUT, as Erika has pointed out, birthplaces are not given on the 1939 register.
Although all the details seem to fit, you can only be sure that Beatrice was actually Beatrice James by buying the marriage cert to see if her husband William is the correct one.

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 29 Aug 2018 09:19

You know, sidami, that birthplaces are not given on the 1939 register

AustinQ

AustinQ Report 29 Aug 2018 08:58

This looks to be Annie Elizabeth Newell that married Mr Stratton on the 1939 register:

She was originally entered as Elizabeth A Newell- this was later changed to Annie E Newell. In 1945 the Surname Stratton was added to the register:-

Name: Elizabeth A Newell
[Annie Elizabeth Stratton]

Residence Year: 1939
Address: 17 Seymour Road
Residence Place: Slough, Buckinghamshire, England

Sidney J Bates (married) 26 June 1887 Painter & Decorator
Mabel L Bates (married) 21 Feb 1898 Unpaid domestic dities
Elizabeth A Newell (single) 2 June 1912 Laundress
Arthur K Robson (married) 19 Mar 1918 Fitting chubes for motorcars
This record is officially closed.
Harvey R H Watts (single) 6 May 1917 Junior Draughtsman
William Foster (single) 19 Sept 1917 Factory Labourer

Sidami

Sidami Report 29 Aug 2018 08:19

Can you find Beatrice Evans on 1939 born 1908 Bucks please?

Sidami

Sidami Report 28 Aug 2018 22:41

Thanks

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 28 Aug 2018 22:07

My guess is that this is the marriage - but you'd have to buy the cert to be absolutely sure.


William G Evans
in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Marriage Index, 1916-2005
Name: William G Evans
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1934
Registration district: Eton
Inferred County: Buckinghamshire
Spouse: Beatrice M James
Volume Number: 3a
Page Number: 3875


And Beatrice's birth:

JAMES, BEATRICE MAY mms JAMES
GRO Reference: 1908 S Quarter in ETON BUCKS Volume 03A Page 935

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 28 Aug 2018 21:49

On freebmd if it happened in England or Wales

Sidami

Sidami Report 28 Aug 2018 20:42

Where can I find the marriage of William and Beatrice please?

Sidami

Sidami Report 28 Aug 2018 19:17

Do you have a year on 1939 for when William married Beatrice please?

Sidami

Sidami Report 25 Jul 2018 06:04

Greyghost that is the marriage I believe she only married once, she had a son Peter Newell born 1935 out of wedlock.

greyghost

greyghost Report 24 Jul 2018 23:45

Herbert R Stratton on the 1939 Register

1939 REGISTER TRANSCRIPTION
Herbert 1939 - would be right area for the marriage 1945

Stratton Household (4 People)
34 White Hart Road , Slough M.B., Buckinghamshire, England

FIRST NAME(S) LAST NAME(S) DOB SEX OCCUPATION MARITAL STATUS SCHEDULE SCHEDULE SUB NUMBER
Herbert R Stratton 28 Jun 1911 Male Porter (Bake House) Single 183 2
Nellie Stratton 07 Jul 1876 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Widowed 183 1
Frederick J Stratton 04 May 1913 Male Window Cleaner Single 183 3
Allan E Stratton 22 Dec 1914 Male Tailor Single 183 4

-----------------------------------
His death

England & Wales deaths 1837-2007 Transcription

First name(s) HERBERT RONALD
Last name STRATTON
Gender Male
Birth day 28
Birth month 6
Birth year 1911
Age -
Death quarter 4
Death year 1994
District Bracknell
District number 3181
Register number 23
Entry number 144
Date of registration mm/yy 1194

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?? possibly hers, but only going on area of marriage

England & Wales deaths 1837-2007 Transcription

First name(s) ANNIE ELIZABETH
Last name STRATTON
Gender Female
Birth day 2
Birth month 6
Birth year 1908
Age -
Death quarter 4
Death year 1971
District Eton
County Buckinghamshire
Volume 6A
Page 1034
Country England

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 24 Jul 2018 23:32

First name(s) HERBERT R
Last name STRATTON
Marriage quarter 4
Marriage year 1945
Registration month -
MarriageFinderâ„¢ HERBERT R STRATTON married
Annie E Newell
Spouse's last name Newell
District Eton
District number -
County Buckinghamshire
Country England
Volume 3A
Volume as transcribed 3A
Page number 3716
Record set England & Wales Marriages 1837-2005
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Civil Marriage & Divorce

Kath. x

greyghost

greyghost Report 24 Jul 2018 23:20

In view of where the marriage to Matthew Driver took place, could this be him in 1939 with siblings and Father?

Driver Household (4 People)
138 Seymour Avenue , Merton and Morden U.D., Surrey, England

FIRST NAME(S) LAST NAME(S) DOB SEX OCCUPATION MARITAL STATUS SCHEDULE SCHEDULE SUB NUMBER
Matthew Driver 01 Jan 1913 Male Tool Fitter Heavy Worker Single 70 3 ***
Matthew Driver 26 May 1884 Male Tool Fitter Heavy Worker Widowed 70 1
Sybella Driver 10 Aug 1910 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Single 70 2
Donald Driver 14 Dec 1914 Male Tool Fitter Heavy Worker Single 70 4

*** Original has 11.1.1913 (reported)

if it is, then Matthew Senior died in 1947, Surrey Mid Eastern RD and Matthew Junior in 1977

England & Wales deaths 1837-2007 Transcription

First name(s) MATTHEW
Last name DRIVER
Gender Male
Birth day 11
Birth month 1
Birth year 1913
Age -
Death quarter 3
Death year 1977
District Sutton
County Surrey
Volume 15
Page 0540

Sidami

Sidami Report 24 Jul 2018 23:05

I have been told she married Herbert Stratton in 1945?

Sidami

Sidami Report 24 Jul 2018 23:02

Thanks

greyghost

greyghost Report 24 Jul 2018 22:56

Had a look on FMP for that 1939 record. And at the original as the transcript showed her on her own, but number 52 Schedule sub number.

the ? is because they couldn't interpret the initial after Annie

77 Swaffield Road , Wandsworth, London, England

FIRST NAME(S) LAST NAME(S) DOB SEX OCCUPATION MARITAL STATUS SCHEDULE SCHEDULE SUB NUMBER
Annie ? Calladine (Driver,Newall) 17 Jun 1907 Female Domestic Service Cook Single 3 52

Unfortunately that address is the Workhouse by the looks of it. Annie is one of many at that address looking at the original.

Initially entered as Annie Newall. This was altered to Driver and dated 25.6.1943. The change to Calladine was entered 6.6.58.

These are not necessarily the date that the name changed, but more the date the change was made on the Register

Google the address - plenty to find

EDIT - AG - you've added some info to your post - there was only the first marriage there when I started this one - interrupted mid flow I was!

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 24 Jul 2018 22:44

A possibility for William Evans in 1939 - living at 29 Carlton Road. (Carlton rather than Carlisle ???) Nobody else living with them:

William G Evans
in the 1939 England and Wales Register
Name: William G Evans
Gender: Male
Marital Status: Married
Birth Date: 19 Jun 1906
Residence Year: 1939
Address: 29
Residence Place: Slough, Buckinghamshire, England
Occupation: Gluer Sirge worker Heavy [Glue and Size Worker, Heavy ]
Schedule Number: 41
Sub Schedule Number: 1
Enumeration District: DVOE
Registration district: 144/1
Inferred Spouse: Beatrice M Evans
Household Members:
Name
William G Evans
Beatrice M Evans


Beatrice's death:

Beatrice Evans
in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007
Name: Beatrice Evans
Death Age: 91
Birth Date: 7 Jul 1908
Registration Date: May 2000
Registration district: Slough
Inferred County: Berkshire
Register Number: B32C
District and Subdistrict: 3211B


and William's:

William George Evans
in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007
Name: William George Evans
Death Age: 83
Birth Date: 19 Jun 1906
Registration Date: Jan 1990
Registration district: Slough
Inferred County: Berkshire
Volume: 19
Page: 574

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 24 Jul 2018 22:24

Her first marriage:

Marriages Jun 1943 (>99%)
Driver Matthew Newell Surrey Mid.E. 2a 786
Newell Annie E Driver Surrey Mid.E. 2a 786

The date of adding the name Calladine to the 1939 record is June 1958, so I assume this is the second marriage - she was already calling herself Calladine:

Marriages Dec 1958 (>99%)
CALLADINE Ann CALLADINE Nottingham 3c 755
CALLADINE Edward CALLADINE Nottingham 3c 755


Her death:

Anne Elizabeth Calladine
in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007
Name: Anne Elizabeth Calladine
Death Age: 82
Birth Date: 17 Jun 1907
Registration Date: Jan 1990
Registration district: Hatfield
Inferred County: Hertfordshire
Volume: 10
Page: 308




ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 24 Jul 2018 22:17

Annie in 1939 ??

Annie E Newall
in the 1939 England and Wales Register
Name: Annie E Newall
[Annie E Driver]
[Annie E Calladine]
Gender: Female
Marital Status: Single
Birth Date: 17 Jun 1907
Residence Year: 1939
Address: 77, Swaffield Road
Residence Place: Wandsworth, London, England
Occupation: Domestic Service Cook
Schedule Number: 3
Sub Schedule Number: 52
OVSPI: Inmate
Enumeration District: AXZG
Registration district: Wandsworth