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Florence Coveney b 1899, Edmonton Middlesex married George William Ingram on 27 Jun 1920 St James Church, Edmonton.

He was born 1897 Pancras reg, probably 10 May & died 20 Jan 1942 Horsham, Sussex.

They had one child, Stanley George William Ingram 10 May 1922 - 2 Feb 1941.

According to one well documented tree, George W Ingram married again to Lily E, aka Ethel Lillian, Melton in 1933.
This grave is attributed to them https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/157609002

Florence seems to have disappeared without trace.

The line of particular interest is the Coveney rather than the Ingrams. George W is a 'marry-in'.

Any ideas? :-S

Could this be her death?


Deaths Mar 1931 (>99%)

Ingram Florence B 31 Edmonton 3a 991

Unfortunately she didn't have a middle name.

COVENEY, FLORENCE mmn USHER
GRO Reference: 1899 S Quarter in EDMONTON Volume 03A Page 512

Is this a coincidence? Same day and month?

1939 REGISTER TRANSCRIPTION
Philips Household (5 People)
2 Goose Green , Horsham R.D., Sussex, England

George W Ingram
DOB
10 May 1896 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<
SEX
Male
OCCUPATION
Pensioner Post Man
MARITAL STATUS
Married
SCHEDULE
78
SCHEDULE SUB NUMBER
4
Horatio P Philips
DOB
11 Aug 1888
SEX
Male
OCCUPATION
Leading Seaman R N
MARITAL STATUS
Married
SCHEDULE
78
SCHEDULE SUB NUMBER
1
Florence M Philips
Donald Phillips
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Ref: RG101/2628A/009/28 Letter Code:
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George William Ingram seems to have been on the electoral registers at 1 Sweet Briar Grove Edmonton from 1925 or so, originally with a Thomas Hyland at that address in 1925. As women couldn't vote till aged 30, I don't know if Florence was living with them.

George William still at that address with Thomas Henry Hyland in 1928. Unfortunately there's then a gap in the late 20s, early 30s, when Florence should have appeared on the register if she were with him (voting age for women reduced to 21 c1928/9)

By 1934, he has been joined at that address by Ethel Lilian Ingram, John William Ingram, and William John Ingram. John William Ingram and William John Ingram move out sometime between the 1938 and the 1939 electoral register.

Births Dec 1922 (>99%)
Phillips Donald Ingram Horsham 2b 441

Although I haven't explored the Ingram ancestors, could the Florence M be a sister?
DOB given is 29 Jul 1885.

Rootgatherer - re the 1939 register you posted, George William Ingram was a postman on his marriage to Florence in 1920, so looking like a match.

Kucinta - John William Ingram was named as his father on his MC

Name: George William Ingram
Gender: Male
Marriage Age: 23
Record Type: Marriage
Birth Date: abt 1897
Marriage Date: 27 Jun 1920
Marriage Place: St James, Upper Edmonton, Enfield, England
Father: John William Ingram
Spouse: Florence Coveney
Register Type: Parish Register

Would be worth getting that 1931 death for its info

Maybe the informant thought she had a second name

The death would fit with the later remarriage of John Ingram

GRO record

INGRAM, FLORENCE BEATRICE 31
GRO Reference: 1931 M Quarter in EDMONTON Volume 03A Page 991

Shirley, although it’s possible, it doesn’t ‘feel right’. I’m wondering if she left him & he remarried bigamously after 7 years.

Unfortunately I don’t have Florence BC, nor was she baptised, to know her dob.

There’s loads of Ingrams & Coveneys!

Here's Lily in 1939

1939 REGISTER TRANSCRIPTION
Melton Household (10 People)
45 South Road , Edmonton M.B., Middlesex, England

Lily Ingram
DOB 19 Jul 1905
SEX Female
OCCUPATION Unpaid Domestic Duties
MARITAL STATUS Married
SCHEDULE 157
SCHEDULE SUB NUMBER 9

Ernest Melton

Annie Melton

Doris Melton

Edward Melton

Gertrude Christman (Melton)

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Ivy Jaggs (Metlton)

Eric Melton

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Ref: RG101/0743D/012/40 Letter Code:
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Well the 1931 death cert won't give a date of birth to double check

Maybe the marriage cert fro her fathers name will pinpoint the right Florence birth

Edit. You probably have this already

Florence Coveney
Gender: Female
Marriage Age: 21
Record Type: Marriage
Birth Date: abt 1899
Marriage Date: 27 Jun 1920
Marriage Place: St James, Upper Edmonton, Enfield, England
Father: John William Coveney
Spouse: George William Ingram
Register Type: Parish Register

One of the witmeses was a Horace Coveney

So he was a brother !!

View 1901 England Census
Name: Florence Coveney
Age: 2
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1899
Relation to Head: Daughter
Gender: Female
Father: John Coveney
Mother: Mary Coveney
Birth Place: Edmonton, Middlesex, England
Civil Parish: Edmonton
Search Photos: Search for 'Edmonton' in the UK City, Town and Village Photos collection
Ecclesiastical parish: St Michael
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Edmonton
Sub-registration district: Edmonton
ED, institution, or vessel: 28
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 1265
Folio: 60
Page Number: 16
Household schedule number: 92
Household Members:
Name Age
John Coveney 50
Mary Coveney 43
John Coveney 20
Edward Coveney 18
Elizabeth Coveney 16
Horace Coveney 12
Minnie Coveney 8
May Coveney 6
Florence Coveney 2

Are you in contact with George and Lily's descendants in the hope that they heard what happened to Florence?
They feature in trees on this site.

Do you know for sure that it was the same George who married both women?

Yes contacting the tree owners is the next step. The Ancestry Tree, the one with loads of photo's, seems to be a different Melton descendent. He may have been told why she disappeared, even if he doesn't know where.

It has at the side of Florence b 31 so born @ 1900 which fits.
On ancestry.co.uk you have to put in search for that death
Florence B Ing??
Died 03/1931
V5a P991
Edmonton.

Maryb

There are quite a few Ingram marriages in and around London to women with the name Florence B. so the death could be any one of those.

Kath. x

If she did just leave and not die before the second marriage there is this death which could fit:-

First name(s) FLORENCE
Last name INGRAM
Gender Female
Birth day -
Birth month -
Birth year 1899
Age 63
Death quarter 4
Death year 1962
District Hammersmith
County London
Volume 5C
Page 815
Country England
Record set England & Wales Deaths 1837-2007
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Civil Deaths & Burials

Kath. x

Yes, there is that 1962 death. As you say, it could be an unrelated person.

Thank you, Maryb - the sticking point is that the record is for a Florence Beatrice rather than a straight Florence.

Lets see if Ancestry allows messages to be sent today. Its been a bit flaky recently.

According to the son of the 2nd marriage b c 1935, George W married Ethel Lilian “sometime after Florence’s death” .
All he knows is that her dressing table set was given by his father to his own mother & that it remains in the family.

A tree on ancestry has a photo of Stanley with his stepmum lily and half brother Gordon

Gordon looks about 5 years of age in the photo