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Hello, does anyone know anything about a Robert Arthur or Archibald Griffiths (specifically were he is buried) who was known as Archie born in 1881, he was from Anglesey or around Bangor Caernarfonshire and lived at some point in the Garth area of Bangor. He was a seaman by trade and married Mary Grace Hughes from Holyhead, they had at least one child a son John Hugh known as Jackie who also worked as a seaman and died in 1938 in a boating accident.

When did they marry?

Where did they marry?

Were the parents alive when the son died?

Have you looked for info yourself on freebmd?

https://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl

Is this the son's birth?

Births Jun 1915 (>99%)
Griffiths John H Hughes Bangor 11b 760

Marriages Mar 1911 (>99%)

Griffith Robert A Holyhead 11b 621
Griffiths Robert A Holyhead 11b 621
Hughes Mary G Holyhead 11b 621

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in the 1939 England and Wales Register
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Name: Robert A Griffiths
Gender: Male
Marital Status: Married
Birth Date: 4 Jun 1879
Residence Year: 1939
Address: 1, Castle View Tce.
Residence Place: Bangor, Caernarvonshire, Wales
Occupation: Inshore Fisherman
Schedule Number: 91
Sub Schedule Number: 1
Enumeration District: ZDAI
Registration district: 631-3
Inferred Spouse: Mary G Griffiths
Household Members:
Name
Robert A Griffiths
Mary G Griffiths born13/12/1885
George Hart
David Hart

1911
Name: Robert Griffiths
Age in 1911: 32
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1879
Relation to Head: Penteulu (Head)
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Plwyf Llandwrog, Carnarvon, Wales
Civil Parish: Llanllyfni
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County/Island: Caernarvonshire
Country: Wales
Street address: 43 Water St Penygroes S O
Marital Status: Priod (Married)
Occupation: Llech Chwarelwr
Registration district: Carnarvon
Registration District Number: 630
Sub-registration district: Llandwro
ED, institution, or vessel: 07
Household schedule number: 164
Piece: 34419
Household Members:
Name Age
Robert Griffiths 32
Margaret Griffiths 25
Humphrey Griffiths 6 Mis
Jennie Hughes 17

married 1 year
occupation lech chwarelwr


GRIFFITH, HUMPHREY HUGHES Order
GRO Reference: 1910 D Quarter in CARNARVON Volume 11B Page 364 Order

MARY G
Last name GRIFFITHS
Gender Female
Birth day -
Birth month -
Birth year 1885
Age 64
Death quarter 2
Death year 1949
District Bangor
County Caernarvonshire
Volume 8A
Page 79
Country Wales

Don't think that's the right 1911.

They only married in March Qtr 1911

And I think 'chwarelwr' might be quarryman

this is the only robert a griffiths near the birth date

Births Dec 1878 (>99%)

GRIFFITHS Robert Arthur St. Asaph 11b 328

could this be mary in 1911 -

says married a few dayys

Name: Mary G Griffith
[Mary G Griffiths]
Age in 1911: 29
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1882
Relation to Head: Sister in Law
Gender: Female
Civil Parish: Bangor
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County/Island: Caernarvonshire
Country: Wales
Street address: 4 Garth Hill Bangor
Marital Status: Married
Registration district: Bangor
Registration District Number: 631
Sub-registration district: Bangor
ED, institution, or vessel: 04
Household schedule number: 255
Piece: 34493
Household Members:
Name Age
Thomas Griffith 35
Temue Griffith 29
Archie Griffith 30 ---------------
Mary G Griffith 29

archie

Name: Archie Griffith
[Archie Griffiths]
Age in 1911: 30
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1881
Relation to Head: Brother
Gender: Male
Civil Parish: Bangor
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County/Island: Caernarvonshire
Country: Wales
Street address: 4 Garth Hill Bangor
Marital Status: Married
Occupation: Fisherman
Registration district: Bangor
Registration District Number: 631
Sub-registration district: Bangor
ED, institution, or vessel: 04
Household schedule number: 255
Piece: 34493

there is this as well so maybe not
Archibald
Last name Griffiths
Birth year 1881
Birth place Bangor
Birth country Wales
Year 1897
Role Boy
Vessel name Reaper
From date 01 Jan 1897
To date 30 Jun 1897
Previous vessel First Ship
Vessel official number 60262
Vessel registration port Castletown
Vessel type Sail
Net tonnage 40
Log book N
Master's first name(s) John
Master's last name Jones
Master's address 343 High Street
Master's town Bangor
Master's county Caernarvonshire
Master's country Wales
Owner's first name(s) John
Owner's last name Jones
Owner's address 343 High Street
Owner's town Bangor
Owner's county Caernarvonshire
Owner's country Wales
Record source Manx National Heritage (Castletown)
Document type D & 07
Archive reference 9800/Castletown/1897
Record set England & Wales Merchant Navy Crew Lists 1861-1913
Category Education & work
Subcategory Merchant Navy & Maritime

That 1911 looks good, Maddie

The St Asaph birth isn't the correct one;


Robert Arthur Griffiths
in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1837-1915
Name: Robert Arthur Griffiths
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1879
Registration Year: 1880
Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar
Age at Death: 1
Registration district: St Asaph
Inferred County: Denbighshire
Volume: 11b
Page: 277

death of thomas in 1911 census
Name: Thomas Griffith
Death Age: 69
Birth Date: abt 1876
Registration Date: Sep 1945
Registration district: Bangor
Inferred County: Caernarvonshire
Vo

1939
Griffiths Household (6 People) 30 Upper Garth Road , Bangor M.B., Caernarvonshire, Wales
First name(s) Last name(s) DOB Sex Occupation Marital status Schedule Schedule Sub Number
Thomas Griffiths 02 Aug 1875 Male Inshore Fisherman (In Partnership) Married 154 1
Jane Griffiths 04 Sep 1885 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 154 2
Thomas Griffiths 02 May 1923 Male Inshore Fisherman (In Partnership) Single 154 3
Walter R McShane 13 Dec 1923 Male At School Single 154 4
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Deaths Dec 1957 (>99%)
GRIFFITHS Robert 76 Bangor 8a 98

THOMAS
Last name GRIFFITHS
Marriage quarter 1
Marriage year 1910
Registration month -


Jenney Hughes, Jane Catherine Roberts
District Bangor
District number -
County Caernarvonshire
Country Wales
Volume 11B
Volume as transcribed 11B
Page number 572

1911 says JENNIE NOT TEMUEs
I cant find a census with thomas and robert together

He was a sailor of 32 Upper Garth Rd, Bangor. She was from 25 Cross St, Holyhead. Both fathers were deceased but had been sailors. John Owen, Freda Hughes and W J(?) Burnett/ Burnell (?) were witnesses.

Anglesey Marriages And Banns

First name(s) Robert Arthur
Last name Griffith
Age 30
Birth year 1881
Year 1911
Event Marriage
Marriage year 1911
Marriage date 29 Mar 1911
Residence -
Father's first name(s) John
Father's last name Griffith
Place Caergybi / Holyhead
County Anglesey
Country Wales
Spouse's first name(s) Mary Grace
Spouse's last name Hughes
Spouse's age 27
Spouse's' residence -
Spouse's father's first name(s) John William
Spouse's father's last name Hughes
Record set Anglesey Marriages And Banns

and thomas's father is john

Thomas
Last name Griffiths
Age 30
Birth year 1880
Event year 1910
Banns year -
Marriage year 1910
Marriage date 16 Mar 1910
Marriage place Bangor
Father's first name(s) John
Father's last name Griffiths
Spouse's first name(s) Jenney
Spouse's last name Hughes
Spouse's age 24
Spouse's birth year 1886
Spouse's father's last name Hughes
Spouse's father's first name(s) Robert
County Caernarvonshire
Country Wales
Event Marriage
Page 24
Record set Caernarvonshire Marriages And Banns
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Parish Marriages
Collections from Wales, Great Britain

Robert Arthur
Last name Griffiths
Birth year 1882
Birth date ? ? 1882
Baptism year 1882
Baptism date 16 Sep 1882
Place Bangor
County Caernarvonshire
Country Wales
Father's first name(s) John
Mother's first name(s) Maria
Page 68
Record set Caernarvonshire Baptisms
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Parish Baptisms

Thomas
Last name Griffiths
Birth year 1876
Birth date ? ? 1876
Baptism year 1876
Baptism date 08 Nov 1876
Place Bangor
County Caernarvonshire
Country Wales
Father's first name(s) John
Mother's first name(s) Maria
Page 41

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John
Last name Griffiths
Age 32
Birth year 1832
Event year 1864
Banns year -
Marriage year 1864
Marriage date 31 May 1864
Marriage place Bangor
Father's first name(s) William
Father's last name Griffiths
Spouse's first name(s) Maria
Spouse's last name Williams
Spouse's age 21
Spouse's birth year 1843
Spouse's father's last name Williams
Spouse's father's first name(s) Robert
County Caernarvonshire
Country Wales
Event Marriage
Page 173
Record set Caernarvonshire Marriages And Banns
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Parish Marriages
Collections from Wales, Great Britain

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GRIFFITHS, THOMAS mms WILLIAMS
GRO Reference: 1875 S Quarter in BANGOR Volume 11B Page 506

GRIFFITHS, ARTHUR mms WILLIAMS
GRO Reference: 1879 S Quarter in BANGOR Volume 11B Page 523

siblings
Griffiths Elizabeth 1881 — 1881 Caernarvonshire Baptisms Bangor, Caernarvonshire, WalesGriffiths John 1876 — 1876 Caernarvonshire Baptisms Bangor, Caernarvonshire, WalesGriffiths Mary Ellen 1876 — 1876 Caernarvonshire Baptisms Bangor, Caernarvonshire, WalesGriffiths Llywelyn 1878 — 1878 Caernarvonshire Baptisms Bangor, Caernarvonshire, Wales

1881
16, College Road, Bangor, Caernarvonshire, Wales

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
John Griffiths Head Married Male 56 1825 Boatman Beaumaris, Anglesey, Wales
Maria Griffiths Wife Married Female 37 1844 - Beaumaris, Anglesey, Wales
Grace Ann Griffiths Daughter Single Female 14 1867 - Bangor, Caernarvonshire, Wales
Maria Griffiths Daughter Single Female 12 1869 - Bangor, Caernarvonshire, Wales
Mary Ellen Griffiths Daughter Single Female 10 1871 - Bangor, Caernarvonshire, Wales
John Griffiths Son Single Male 7 1874 - Bangor, Caernarvonshire, Wales
Thomas Griffiths Son Single Male 5 1876 - Bangor, Caernarvonshire, Wales
Llewelyn Griffiths Son Single Male 3 1878 - Bangor, Caernarvonshire, Wales
Arthur Griffiths Son Single Male 1 1880 - Bangor, Caernarvonshire, Wales
Elizabeth Griffiths Daughter Single Female 0 1881 - Bangor, Caernarvonshire, Wales