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Marcelle Provey 1921

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Pauline

Pauline Report 17 Jan 2019 19:13

Hello
Could anyone help me find the parents of Marcelle Povey b 1921 Chelsea
Her mother was a Gaitt
Thank you

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 17 Jan 2019 19:22

Have you found the birth on freebmd

If so you can look for marriages using the parents surnames

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 17 Jan 2019 19:25

You have given two spellings of the surname

This is the birth record

Births Sep 1921
Povey Marcelle A Gaitt Chelsea 1a 643

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 17 Jan 2019 19:32

No marriage showing nor is she on the 1939 register so you need the cert for its info

She seems to be an only child unless one of the parents had been married before

Pauline

Pauline Report 17 Jan 2019 19:33

She is married to James W Elliott but I cannot find her parents Thank you

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 17 Jan 2019 19:33

The marriage cert too should name her father


Name: Marcelle A Povey
Registration Date: Oct-Nov-Dec 1940
Registration district: Watford
Inferred County: Hertfordshire
Spouse: James W Elliott
Volume Number: 3a
Page Number: 4172


Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 17 Jan 2019 19:40

Pauline you are going to have to buy her birth cert for its info

Pauline

Pauline Report 17 Jan 2019 19:43

Thank you I will do

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 17 Jan 2019 19:43

Am suprised her 1939 record isn't showing

MARCELLE AUDREY
Last name ELLIOTT
Gender Female
Birth day 26
Birth month 7
Birth year 1921
Age -
Death quarter 4
Death year 1999
District Hatfield
District number 5321A
Register number A44C
Entry number 178
Date of registration mm/yy 1299
County Hertfordshire
Country England

Pauline

Pauline Report 17 Jan 2019 19:47

yes that's her
Don't know if it will help but I am told her dad was an Admiral

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 17 Jan 2019 20:37

She died after the NHS stopped updating the 1939 Register, which was 1991/92, and FMP probably have not yet caught up.

They are working hard to match up deaths with closed records ........... but in her case, she was also married after 1939, and so FMP will have to check the marriage record (which should have been updated) for her death.

Currently, she falls within the 100 year rule, so may be some time before the record is opened.

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 17 Jan 2019 21:02

I googled 'Admiral Povey'

The only result was for a character in 'The Navy Lark' an old radio programme

So, no progress there.

Pauline

Pauline Report 17 Jan 2019 21:26

Use to listen to it

malyon

malyon Report 17 Jan 2019 22:15

my husband died in 1999 and he is on the 1939 reg

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 17 Jan 2019 23:28

malyon ..............

as I said FMP is in the process of updating and opening records by comparing dates of birth on the 1939 with death records, and then opening up the record.

Married women create more of a problem than men, because they change their names, often more than once.

You're lucky, others are not so lucky, and will have to wait until FMP finds them, or a relations ends in a copy of the death certificate as proof and asks for the record to be opened.

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 18 Jan 2019 04:52

My sister died in 2001 and hers in an open record

She married in 1954

AustinQ

AustinQ Report 18 Jan 2019 07:49

Wondering if the Mother's maiden name is incorrectly transcribed on the birth index.

There is this marriage:

Marriages Sep 1915
Gant Ada Povey Thetford 4b 939
Povey Harry Gant Thetford 4b 939

Looks like there were other children born in Chelsea to this couple.

Ada in 1939:

Name: Ada Povey
Gender: Female
Marital status: Married
Birth Date: 21 Apr 1894
Residence Year: 1939
Address: 6.Harvey Rd.
Residence Place: Rickmansworth, Hertfordshire, England
Occupation: Unpaid Domestic Duties
Schedule Number: 154
Sub Schedule Number: 1
Enumeration District: DENJ
Registration district: 140-3
Household Members:
Name
Ada Povey
This record is officially closed.
This record is officially closed.
This record is officially closed.
This record is officially closed.
This record is officially closed.
This record is officially closed.
Dorothy Povey
This record is officially closed.
Marjorie Povey
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England & Wales, National Probate Calendar
Name: Ada Povey
Death Date: 31 Dec 1958
Death Place: Hertfordshire, Hertford, England
Probate Date: 25 Mar 1959
Registry: Carmarthen

POVEY Ada of 6 Harvey Road, Croxley Green Rickmansworth Hertfordshire (Wife of Harry Povey) died 31st December 1958 Administration Carmarthen 25 March to Ronald Charles Povey works mananger and George Mervyn Povey draughtsman.
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Seems there are several spellings of Ada's maiden name (She is a Gaut on her birth registration):

Son's birth:
Births Jun 1916
Povey Ronald C (mother's maiden name: Gaut)
Watford 3a 1702

Births Dec 1919 (>99%)
Povey Daphne M (mother's maiden name: Gaut)
Watford 3a 1637

malyon

malyon Report 18 Jan 2019 10:21

Births Mar 1894 (>99%)
Gant Ada Ipswich 4a 878

AustinQ

AustinQ Report 18 Jan 2019 11:26

Not that birth Malyon- it doesn't fit with 1939 register. More likely this birth- registered under Gant and Gaut:

Births Jun 1894 (>99%)
Gant Ada Thetford 4b 372
Gaut Ada Thetford 4b 372

Entry on the GRO:
GAUT, ADA (mother's maiden name: STEGGLES)
GRO Reference: 1894 J Quarter in THETFORD Volume 04B Page 372

Pauline

Pauline Report 18 Jan 2019 18:30

Thank you there is a Daphine in the family