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James Brading, East Cowes c1901/1910

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Marcus

Marcus Report 12 Jul 2024 17:08

Many thanks,ErikaH !! Appreciated !

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 7 Jul 2024 19:15

Doris L Williams DoB 4 Feb 1906 is at 244 Upton Road, Ryde, IOW in 1939, with husband born 23 Feb 1904, occupation Draughtsman and a closed record which will be their daughter born 1938.

FMP have transcribed Roland as Rita? and designated him as female, despite the image clearly showing him to be male.

The forename is a bit unclear………….

EDITED 09/07 at 16.46

FMP have actioned my corrections
1939 Register
244 Upton Road, Ryde, Ryde M.B., Isle of Wight, England
Roland Williams 23 Feb 1904 Male Draughtsman Ordenance And Electrical Engineer Married 12 1
Doris L Williams 04 Feb 1906 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 12 2
The record for this person is officially closed.



ErikaH

ErikaH Report 7 Jul 2024 19:07

In 1921, Doris is aged 15 years, 4 months. Date of Census 19th June

Marcus

Marcus Report 7 Jul 2024 18:10

Thank both of you Argyll Gran & Jink20 - appreciate it !!

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 7 Jul 2024 13:49

I agree that Frances is probably Cis.

Also, the grandchild mentioned on the postcard must have been born in February of whatever year it was.

Frances's child (Doris Louise) was registered in the Apr-June quarter of 1906, so could be that one, if registered in early April.

I don't see Doris and Rowland/Roland in 1939, to check her DOB.
At least not together, nor Doris on her own unless the DOB stated in 1939 is wrong - which is often the case.

They were both born and died on the Isle of Wight.

Jink20

Jink20 Report 6 Jul 2024 23:03

From a tree on Ancestry

Doris Louise Lovett f
Record information.
Birth 1906 East Cowes, Hampshire, England
Residence 1911 East Cowes, Hampshire, England
Marriage Oct 1930 Isle of Wight, England
Death Apr 1964 Isle of Wight, England

Record information.
Father Samuel Lovett (1879-1944)
Mother Frances Louise Brading (1881-1960)
Spouse Roland Leslie Williams (1904-1979)

Jink20

Jink20 Report 6 Jul 2024 23:00

Doris Louise Lovett
in the England, Select Births and Christenings, 1538-1975

Name Doris Louise Lovett
Gender Female
Baptism Date 15 Apr 1906
Baptism Place East Cowes, Hampshire, England
Father
Samuel Lovett
Mother
Frances Louise
FHL Film Number 1470877
Reference ID It.3 p33 257

Jink20

Jink20 Report 6 Jul 2024 22:58

Samuel Lovett
in the 1911 England Census

Name Samuel Lovett
Age in 1911 31
Estimated Birth Year abt 1880
Relation to Head Head
Gender Male
Birth Place Cowes
Civil parish East Cowes
County/Island Hampshire
Country England
Street Address No 2 Louisa Cottages, Clarence Road, East Cowes, I W
Marital Status Married
Occupation Shipbuilders Clerk
Registration District Number 93
Sub-registration district Cowes
ED, institution, or vessel 08
Piece 5686

Household Members (Name) Age Relationship
Samuel Lovett 31 Head
Frances Louise Lovett 29 Wife
Doris Louise Lovett 5 Daughter

Marcus

Marcus Report 6 Jul 2024 22:03

Thanks Jink20

Very helpful !!

Jink20

Jink20 Report 6 Jul 2024 21:33

First name(s) Frances Louise
Last name Brading
Age 22
Spouse's first name(s) Samuel
Spouse's last name Lovett
Spouse's birth year 1880
Spouse's birth date 1880
Spouse's age 24
Marriage year 1904
Marriage date 23 Jul 1904

Residence East Cowes, Hampshire, England
Spouse's father's first name(s) William James
Marriage place East Cowes
Spouse's father's last name Lovett
County Hampshire
Record set Hampshire Marriages
Country England
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Father's first name(s) James
Subcategory Parish Marriages
Father's last name Brading
Collections from England, Great Britain

Marcus

Marcus Report 6 Jul 2024 21:31

Thanks for your help, ErikaH.

I have found what you have just posted !


I'll take a chance & say that the 'Cis' mentioned is probably Frances, who married Samuel Lovett.

Jink20

Jink20 Report 6 Jul 2024 21:30

Frances Louise Brading in 1881
Hampshire Baptisms
East Cowes, Hampshire, England

First name(s) Frances Louise
Last name Brading
Sex Female

Father's first name(s) James
Father's last name Brading

Baptism year 1881
Baptism date 09 Oct 1881

Mother's first name(s) Sarah Louisa

Record set Hampshire Baptisms
Residence East Cowes, Hampshire, England
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Place East Cowes
Country England
Subcategory Parish Baptisms
County Hampshire
Collections from England, Great Britain

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 6 Jul 2024 21:20

Frances m. Samuel Lovett and had one child by 1911

Lilian m. Archibald Farrow. No children by 1911

Ethel m. Percy Ballard, one son by 1911

Jink20

Jink20 Report 6 Jul 2024 21:18

1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census
(Louisa Cottage), 1, Clarence Road, East Cowes, Isle of Wight, Isle of Wight & Hampshire, England

James Brading Head Married Male 49 1852 Foreman joiner Isle of Wight, England

Sarah Brading Wife Married Female 46 1855 Engineer fitter Isle of Wight, England

Stanley Brading Son Single Male 21 1880 Engineer fitter Isle of Wight, England

Frances Brading Daughter Single Female 19 1882 Dressmaker Isle of Wight, England

Lilian Brading Daughter Single Female 18 1883 Milliner Isle of Wight, England

Ethel Brading Daughter Single Female 16 1885 Drapery apprentice Isle of Wight, England

James Dinroud Boarder Single Male 20 1881 Engineer fitter apprentice Woolwich, Kent, England


1911 Census For England & Wales
Louisa Cottages Clarence Road East Cowes Isle of Wight, East Cowes, Isle of Wight & Hampshire, England

James Brading Head Married Male 59 1852 Builders foreman and undertaker East Cowes Isle of Wight

Sarah Louisa Brading Wife Married Female 56 1855 - East Cowes Isle of Wight

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 6 Jul 2024 20:38

Stanley’s wife was Catherine/Katherine Tee. Two children before 1911

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 6 Jul 2024 20:31

Stanley married in 1904, as did Frances

Lilian in 1908, and Ethel

Check marriage info on freebmd, then look for possible births, although I don’t know how you’ll determine which of the mothers is ‘Cis’…….unless only one of the four marriages produced a child

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 6 Jul 2024 20:26

Yes, Marcus, in 1901, and also in 1891



Marcus

Marcus Report 6 Jul 2024 20:25

Oh no ! Albert & Alice sent the postcard TO James Brading.

The postcard's picture is of Wyke Regis !

It is James Brading & family who lived at 1 Louisa Cottages, Clarence Road.

Having said that, they may have been neighbours ?? Anything is possible !!

Thanks for replying though.

Jink20

Jink20 Report 6 Jul 2024 20:19

Sorry, I thought Albert and Alice referred to were the occupants of Louisa Cottages who sent the card to James in Wyke Regis.

If not, easily deleted

Marcus

Marcus Report 6 Jul 2024 20:19

Have found something on Family search !!

Can you confirm that Stanley, Frances, Lilian & Ethel are his childen ?