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1921 Census look up

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Rose

Rose Report 9 Jul 2024 17:15

Please could someone look up 1921 census for James Adams born 1866 in Hereford and wife Minnie born 1879.in Shropshire. I believe two of their children were still living with them Emma born 1906 in Shobdon and Minnie Agnes born 1909in llanwit fadre.

In 1911 they were living in Llanwit Fadre, and james was working on the railway as a plate layer.

I cant find them on the 1939 census as yet but have not found any deaths for them either.
Thanks

Kay????

Kay???? Report 9 Jul 2024 17:39

as a ffree search they are listed as 5 people in Leominster,,,,,,,James 1866, ,Emma 1902 Minnie,1907.,,,Gwendoline,Herbert,,,,,,,,,,but no snr Minnie..

credits needed to see in full.

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 9 Jul 2024 17:43

James is Cowman
Minnie J b 1878
Emma 1902
Minnie b Glamorgan
Margaret b 1911 b. Glamorgan
Herbert 7, b Shobdon
May 2yrs 8ths b Shobdon
Gwendoline 3mts, b. Dinmore

Address. Newton lane, Newton Herefordshire

Leominster is the registration district

Rose

Rose Report 9 Jul 2024 17:54

Thank you Kay. Could be them as there was a Herbert and Gwendoline Adams born after the 1911 census.

Rose

Rose Report 9 Jul 2024 18:08

ErikaH. Brilliant. I think this is definitely then. I am researching Minnie Agnes Adams b 1909 and had the 6 children born before and up to Minnie and appear to have missed !! the next 5 children. Oops. One had died by 1921 but Margaret, Herbert, Priscilla May and Gwendoline are all there.. Thank you so much.
I have just found a James Adams death in Hereford in 1926 and my James would have been 60 so possible. and would answer why I cant find him in 1939.!
Still searching for a death for Minnie Jane Adams born 1878and or her on the 1939 census. thanks again

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 9 Jul 2024 18:24

Have you considered that Minnie J re-married?

Her birth was registered AMJ 1879. Bear that in mind when looking for her in 1939

greyghost

greyghost Report 9 Jul 2024 18:46

Full transcription of that 1921 census

1921 Census Of England & Wales
Newton Lane, Newton, Newton, Herefordshire, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship to head Sex Birth year Age in years Birth place Occupation Employer
James Adams Head Male 1866 54 Herefordshire, England Cowman (Farm) Mr Johnson Farmer
Minnie J Adams Wife Female 1878 43 Herefordshire, England House Duties Domestic Farm Servant, Mrs Smith
Emma Adams Daughter Female 1902 19 Shobdon, Herefordshire, England - Out Of Work
Minnie Adams Daughter Female 1907 13 Glamorganshire, Wales Domestic Servant Mr Morgan Farmer
Margaret Adams Daughter Female 1911 9 Glamorganshire, Wales - -
Herbert Adams Son Male 1914 7 Herefordshire, England - -
May Adams Daughter Female 1918 2 Herefordshire, England - -
Gwendoline Adams Daughter Female 1921 - Dinmore, Herefordshire, England - -


ErikaH

ErikaH Report 9 Jul 2024 18:52

Gwendoline appears to have married in 1946 in Ledbury district to William E Reynolds

greyghost

greyghost Report 9 Jul 2024 18:54

A possibility for Minnie's death ? Perhaps living with one of her children at the time

Minnie J Adams in 1953
England & Wales Deaths 1837-2007
Wednesbury, Staffordshire, England

First name(s) Minnie J
County Staffordshire
Last name Adams
Volume 9B
Sex Female
Page 918
Birth year 1879
Country England
Age 74
Record set England & Wales Deaths 1837-2007
Death quarter 1
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Death year 1953
Subcategory Civil Deaths & Burials
District Wednesbury
Collections from Great Britain, England
© Findmypast
Other records featuring that name
(6 records)

Rose

Rose Report 9 Jul 2024 18:56

I hadn't ! I will keep searching thanks for your help

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 9 Jul 2024 18:56

Using the GRO index to look for post-1911 births will ensure you have full name info

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 9 Jul 2024 19:11

In case middle names help:

ADAMS, GWENDOLINE HILDA mmn LEARY
GRO Reference: 1921 J Quarter in LEOMINSTER Volume 06A Page 1033

ADAMS, HERBERT GLINDOW mmn LEARY
GRO Reference: 1915 S Quarter in LEOMINSTER Volume 06A Page 841

ADAMS, PRISCILLA MAY mmn LEARY
GRO Reference: 1918 D Quarter in LEOMINSTER Volume 06A Page 710

ADAMS, MARGARET CAROLINE mmn LEARY
GRO Reference: 1912 D Quarter in PONTYPRIDD Volume 11A Page 1241

ADAMS, MINNIE AGNES mmn LEARY
GRO Reference: 1909 D Quarter in PONTYPRIDD Volume 11A Page 657

ADAMS, MARY ELLEN mmn LEARY
GRO Reference: 1904 D Quarter in LEOMINSTER Volume 06A Page 540

???
Marriages Dec 1946 (>99%)
Adams Gwendoline H Reynolds Ledbury 9a 155
Reynolds William E Adams Ledbury 9a 155

Rose

Rose Report 9 Jul 2024 19:18

Thanks for all the info a great help

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 9 Jul 2024 19:40

Possibly Minnie in 1939??? Year of birth stated in 1939 is often a year out.

Minnie Adams
in the 1939 England and Wales Register
Name Minnie Adams
Gender Female
Marital Status Widowed
Birth Date 9 Apr 1878
Residence Date 1939
Address Ashfield Cottage
Residence Place Ledbury, Herefordshire, England
Occupation House - Worker
Line Number 26
Schedule Number 68
Sub Schedule Number 1
Enumeration District Ogic
Borough Ledbury
Registration district No 335-1
Household Members (Name) Gender Birth Year
Minnie Adams Female 1878
This record is officially closed.


Her birth:

LEARY, MINNIE JANE mmn HIGGINS
GRO Reference: 1879 J Quarter in LUDLOW Volume 06A Page 590


Minnie Jane Leary
in the England, Select Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
Name Minnie Jane Leary
Gender Female
Baptism Date 4 May 1879
Baptism Place Munslow, Shropshire, England
Father John Leary
Mother Elizabeth Leary
FHL Film Number 1702122
Reference ID item 540 p 68



The closed record in 1939 might be Gwendoline, who married in Ledbury.

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 9 Jul 2024 20:22

Name William Ernest Reynolds
Death Date 16 May 1981
Death Place Tipton West Midlands
Probate Date 23 Jun 1981
Probate Registry Birmingham


Name William Ernest Reynolds
Register Type Cremation
Death Date 16 May 1981
Burial or Cremation Date 22 May 1981
Burial or Cremation Place West Midlands, England

Name W.Ernest Reynolds
Address 5 Kings Acre rd
Publication Year 1967
Directory Place Hereford, Herefordshire, England
Exchange Hereford
Page number 2184

Name William Ernest Reynolds
Death Age 55
Birth Date 26 Oct 1925
Registration Quarter Apr-May-Jun 1981
Registration district Sandwell
Inferred County West Midlands
Volume 33
Page 1073

REYNOLDS, GWENDOLINE HILDA 1921
GRO Reference: DOR Q1/2007 in DUDLEY (0651A) Reg A013G Entry Number 79

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 9 Jul 2024 20:26

Name Herbert Glindon Adams
Death Age 72
Birth Date 20 Jun 1915
Registration Date Sep 1987
Registration district Aylesbury Vale
Inferred County Buckinghamshire
Volume 19
Page 775

POSSIBLY......based on location ONLY

Marriages 1984 (>99%)
ADAMS HERBERT G DELANEY AYLESBURY 19 650
DELANEY IVY A ADAMS AYLESBURY 19 650

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ADAMS, IVY ANN 1920
GRO Reference: DOR Q4/2004 in AYLESBURY VALE (3241A) Reg A31C Entry Number 114

Rose

Rose Report 10 Jul 2024 11:58

With all your help I think I have a thread.!
1935 Minnies son Herbert M Margery Latham in Lichfield Staffordshire
In 1939 Minnie and daughter Gwen were living at Ashfield Cottage Ledbury
in 1946 daughter Gwen married William Reynolds
Sometime after Minnie moved to live with Herbert and Margery in Staffordshire
1953 Minnie dies in Staffordhire
1984 Margery dies in Staffordshire
1984 Herbert marries Ivy Delaney in Bucks.
1987 Herbert dies in Bucks.
Again thanks for all your help I would not have found some of these answers without your help. I know to be sure it needs certificates etc. but sounds correct at the moment.

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 10 Jul 2024 17:32

Herbert and Margery/Marjorie had two sons before the 1939 register was compiled

She and the elder boy are living with her parents, George & Emma
Sadly, the younger one died soon after birth

The elder son died in Birmingham in 1977, having probably married there in 1959

Rose

Rose Report 10 Jul 2024 18:53

Erika thanks for this.Wonder where Herbert was in 1939!

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 10 Jul 2024 19:16

Possibly in the forces.

???

Herbert G. Adams
in the UK, World War II Allied Prisoners of War, 1939-1945
Name Herbert G. Adams
Rank Pte.
Military Date 1939-1945
Service Number 4031747
Description 172: British Army List of Missing to be Circulated to POW Camps: includes Copy of 1st & 2nd Lists


H. G. Adams
in the UK, World War II Army Casualty Lists, 1939-1945
Name H. G. Adams
Military Rank Private
Military Service Number 4031747
War World War II
Military Regiment King's Shropshire Light Infantry
Missing In Action Date 20 May 1940
Missing In Action Place France

This man presumably survived, as did Herbert Glindon, as he's not listed on the CWGC site.