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Ancestry shows 1851 Census of Canada East....cannot view full details....looking for James Stuart born around 1830 in Ireland, wife was Sarah Fowley....they were my grgrgrandparents....(Dora, their daughter and my grgrandmother, was born in Ontario in 1861). Thank you.

Lisa, Are you expecting them to be married by 1851? Not sure if I'm looking for a couple or two separate people. Rose

Here are the James Stuarts born 1830 + or - 5 years: Name Home in 1851 (Province, District, Sub-District) Estimated birth year Birthplace View Record James Stuart Canada East (Quebec), Leinster County, Repentigny abt 1827 Ireland View Record James Stuart Canada West (Ontario), Glengarry County, Lancaster abt 1831 Canada West View Record James Stuart Canada West (Ontario), Stormont County, Cornwall abt 1829 Canada View Record James Stuart New Brunswick, Albert County, Harvey abt 1830 Rose

Hi Rose, thank you very much. I don't know anything about the parents. Dora Emmeline's death certificate states her parent's names and they were both born in Ireland. Dora's marriage information (married William Richard Vaus Mumford in 1888) states her parents names and Dora's birthplace of Lambton Mills, Ontario. 1881(?) census shows Sarah 'Stewart', born 1855/56, was living with Dora and her family. So, assuming Sarah was her sister. I don't know anything else about the parents and I'm guessing they were born around 1830's. I am fairly certain the last name was spelled Stuart, as that spelling was handed down to my dad's uncle AND aunt! (Ethel Stuart Mumford!) I was hoping James might be on the 1851 census, as I can't find anything out about James or Sarah. Thank you so much for your help.

Hi Lisa, I'll have another look later when I have a bit more time. Rose

Thank you very much, Rose. Any help is appreciated. I believe I've given you all of the information I know. Thank you again. (Others have looked for the parents' deaths, but they haven't been found.)

Lisa, I have them in 1911 if you need them Sarah is listed as 60 then. 1911 Census of Canada about Dora Maonford Name: Dora Maonford Gender: Female Marital Status: Married Age: 50 Birth Date: Aug 1860 Birthplace: Ontario Family Number: 138 Relation to Head of House: Wife Spouse's name: William Tribal: Irish Province: Ontario DISTRICT: Toronto North District Number: 126 Sub-District: Ward five Sub-District Number: 50 Place of Habitation: 105 Bathurst Census Year: 1911 Page: 12 Household Members: Name Age William Maonford 48 Dora Maonford 50 Ethel Maonford 20 William Maonford 18 Stewart Maonford 16 Annie Maonford 14 Fred Maonford 12 Sarah Stewart 60 I don't see them in 1881 at all. Rose

Hi Rose. I have ancestors who's ages have been off on the census, so it doesn't surprise me that Sarah's age is not what I expected. I've wondered about the age difference between Dora and her sister - perhaps the age in 1911 is her real age (rather than 6 or 7 year's difference that shows on the 1901). Thank you for finding the 1911. My dad's family (Mumfords) were very family-oriented yet I never heard him mention Sarah Stuart. Perhaps she died well before his birth. Talking this over with you has just given me a new lead. I've never searched for her burial. If I can find that, I might find their parents. (A lot of my ancestors were buried in the same cemetery.) Thank you very much for your help.

Lisa, Just spotted Dora's middle name. How about this for 1881? Household: Name Marital Status Gender Ethnic Origin Age Birthplace Occupation Religion Emma STEWART Female Irish 20 O. <Ontario> Dressmaker Weslyan Methodist Sarah STEWART Female Irish 30 O. <Ontario> Dressmaker Weslyan Methodist Rebecca STEWART Female Irish 18 O. <Ontario> Dressmaker Weslyan Methodist Charles FIELD Male English 6 O. <Ontario> Weslyan Methodist Source Information: Census Place St John's Ward, Toronto, York, Ontario Family History Library Film 1375882 NA Film Number C-13246 District 134 Sub-district D Division 1 Page Number 95 Household Number 529 Rose

Has to be them: Ontario, Canada Marriages, 1857-1922 about Rebecca Stuart Name: Rebecca Stuart Birth Place: Brampton Ont Age: 19 Father Name: James Stuart Mother Name: Sarah Stuart Estimated birth year: abt 1862 Spouse Name: Robert Thomas Curzon Spouse's Age: 21 Spouse Birth Place: Coventry England Spouse Father Name: Robert Curzon Spouse Mother Name : Sarah Anne Curzon Marriage Date: 23 May 1881 Marriage Place: York Marriage County: York Source: Indexed by: Ancestry.com Rose

Ontario, Canada Deaths, 1869-1932 about Rebecca Curzon Name: Rebecca Curzon Death Date: 18 Jan 1930 Death Location: York Gender: Female Estimated birth year: abt 1864 Birth Location: Lambton Mills,Ont Rose

Ontario, Canada Deaths, 1869-1932 about Rebecca Curzon Name: Rebecca Curzon Death Date: 18 Jan 1930 Death Location: York Gender: Female Estimated birth year: abt 1864 Birth Location: Lambton Mills,Ont Rose

Sarah's death: Ontario, Canada Deaths, 1869-1932 about Sarah Stuart Name: Sarah Stuart Death Date: 5 Feb 1923 Death Location: York Gender: Female Estimated birth year: abt 1856 Birth Location: Brampton,Ont Parents listed a Sarah and James from Sligo, Ireland. Rose

Perhaps this is the Charles Field in 1881: Ontario, Canada Births, 1869-1907 about William Charles Field Name: William Charles Field Date of Birth: 28 May 1875 Gender: Male Birth County: York Father's name: James Field Mother's name: Ann Stewart Roll Number: MS929_22 Rose

Ann's marriage: Ontario, Canada Marriages, 1857-1922 about James Field Name: James Field Birth Place: England Age: 32 Father Name: John Field Mother Name: Susan Field Estimated birth year: abt 1842 Spouse Name: Ann Stewart Spouse's Age: 30 Spouse Birth Place: Canada Spouse Father Name: James Stewart Spouse Mother Name : Sarah Stewart Marriage Date: 22 Jul 1874 Marriage Place: York Marriage County: York Rose

Rose - I'm still here. I'll write in a few minutes. Sending you the hugest hugs!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Still don't see them in 1851. Ann and Sarah should both be there. Rose

Rose: I've never heard of Rebecca before. When I read your first posting I was hesitating about accepting that you had found the right family. But, guess what? Brampton rings a bell. I don't know why - but it's connected to the family somehow. Also, when I used to pester my aunt about the Mumford's, she mentioned a few times that a family member had married a Curzon! Rose, as I've mentioned on GR before, I've been researching on and off since I was in college - almost THIRTY years ago! Thirty years, and now you've found them. Unfortunately, I've spent the past 30 minutes running back and forth - trying to cook supper (quite difficult cooking when you can't see the stove through the tears of joy) and read your postings. And, we have a school meeting to attend in a few minutes. I can't wait until I get home to actually sit down and read everything, word-for-word. My dad passed away 2 1/2 years ago. I wish he was here so I could tell him (he used to help me research). I'm sure he knows now though, eh? My dad's sister is still alive and I can't wait to tell her. Thank you so much for everything, Rose. Even if I had Ancestry, I never would have looked for 'Emma'. As they say in the UK, 'you're a star'.

No problem Lisa. Hope you get the time to read it all later. I need to go out now but will be back in a bit. Take care, Rose

This could be another sister: Ontario, Canada Marriages, 1857-1922 about Elizabeth Stewart Name: Elizabeth Stewart Birth Place: Canada Age: 24 Father Name: James Stewart Mother Name: Sarah Stewart Estimated birth year: abt 1856 Spouse Name: Walter Scott Craik Spouse's Age: 30 Spouse Birth Place: Canada Spouse Father Name: Robert Craik Spouse Mother Name : Jane Craik Marriage Date: 30 Sep 1880 Marriage Place: York Marriage County: York Witnesses are Emma Stewart and Sarah Fowlie. Rose