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Now looking for John Goulden from info on 1841 census.dob abt 1836 Hindley Lancashire.There is a John Goulden but no reference to anyone else listed in 1841..Can you please help me out on this one as parents? on 1841 seemed very old to be parents....Thanks very much in anticipation.Wanda.

Is this the one you found in 1851? Name: John Goulden Age: 15 Estimated birth year: abt 1836 Relation: Son Father's name: William Mother's name: Elizabeth Gender: Male Where born: Hindley, Lancashire, England Civil parish: Abram Ecclesiastical parish: St John the Evangelist County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: Disability: View image Registration district: Wigan Sub-registration district: Hindley ED, institution, or vessel: 3a Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 78 Household Members: Name Age Elizabeth Goulden 35 Frances Goulden 3 John Goulden 15 Mary Goulden 8 Sarah Goulden 10 William Goulden 36 Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece: 2200; Folio: 343; Page: 24; GSU roll: 87210.

Yes it is, but somehow not clicking as right one...Thanks for helping.Wanda.x

This one? Name: John Goulden Age: 15 Estimated birth year: abt 1836 Relation: Son Father's name: William Mother's name: Elizabeth Gender: Male Where born: Hindley, Lancashire, England Civil parish: Abram Ecclesiastical parish: St John the Evangelist County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Registration district: Wigan Sub-registration district: Hindley ED, institution, or vessel: 3a Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 78 Household Members: Name Age Elizabeth Goulden 35 b. Hindley Frances Goulden 3 John Goulden 15 Mary Goulden 8 Sarah Goulden 10 William Goulden 36 b. Blackrod Reg

1841.......... Alice Goulden abt 1829 Lancashire, England Wigan Lancashire Alice Goulden abt 1840 Lancashire, England Wigan Lancashire >>>>>>>>Ann Goulden abt 1776 Lancashire, England Wigan Lancashire Ann Goulden abt 1826 Lancashire, England Wigan Lancashire Charlotte Goulden abt 1826 Lancashire, England Wigan Lancashire Martha Goulden abt 1786 Lancashire, England Wigan Lancashire Richard Goulden abt 1827 Lancashire, England Wigan Lancashire Sarah Goulden abt 1821 Lancashire, England Wigan Lancashire Thomas Goulden abt 1833 Lancashire, England Wigan Lancashire John Goulden abt 1836 Lancashire, England Wigan Lancashire >>>>>> is actually William! Reg

Looked again and could be as the next one older than John was Thomas who would be 18 now.Its just that on the 1841 no parents by the names given were listed but the elders seemed too old to be the parents if you know what I mean..Getting very confused cos they all seem to repeat their names down the generations and seem to marry people by the same names as well..Will have another look and thanks Reg..wanda.x

Did John marry? If so, the cert will clarify things, at least with regard to who his father was............ Reg

More confused Reg..How is Ann..William as dates dont match? Ann? is 65 in 1841..Help me out here please.Wanda.x

The name is written as Wm.....but with the 'm' at the top of the 'w', and the Ancestry transcriber has misread the name as Ann........... He is listed first, so must be head of the household, presumably married to Martha............ Reg

No idea as yet to whether John married.Started out trying to find John Goulden born 1859 Manchester.Had no luck so thought I would work backwards and see if I could connect alll the Johns etc that were throwing me.In other words eliminate the uncles Johns etc they named.Wanda.x

Perhaps it would be a good idea to tell us what you know for certain about John. You've got his name etc from somewhere......... Reg

You will have to excuse me Reg but I cant read and type as fast as your answers come...Have an eye disease so find it difficult to read...Wish this lot didnt change their name either..Goulden,Golden,Goulding Gouldin, and then all are called sarah,john,Thomas etc..Bear with me while I look.Thanks ever so much.Wanda.x

No rush...take your time............. Reg

I will start at the beggining...Looked for Mary Ellen Goulden dob abt 1893 with fathers name of John on 1901 census.The only one near enough to be her was Mary Ellen Golden with father John Golden dob 1859 born Chorlton.Had no luck with either of them and family members listed so thought I would try to work from the 1859 dob.Looked at 1891 census and the next one that came near was John Goulden 1859.I matched the 1901 and 1891 census by the next door neighbour called Mary Quinn.When I looked back at census`s the nearest I could find as John`s father was Thomas Goulden dob abt 1833 and so went from there...but in 1861 census Thomas is now called Goulding but in 1871 becomes Goulden again...so you see how Im fixed on this??Wanda.x

What Im trying to do is find all the family members and where hey bramched off to and then perhaps work out the children that John Goulden has later on.Cant find them listed as his children so thought they could perhaps be his relations but not put down as such.At the moment anything could be right..Wanda.x

Hi Reg, hope you havnt given up on me.Will be back tomorrow night.In the meantime will try and sort out a few of the census`s and link them up as Hindley is a small place so they must all be related near enough in some way.Thanks for helping.Wanda.x

Back with this thread.Found some bits out but am thrown with the 1841 census.Would someone please just look and confirm what I think that Martha and Ann who is really William could be the grandparents.So if Elizabeth and William on the 1851 census are the parents where are they on the 1841 census.Any help appreciated.Thank you.Wanda.x

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Wanda Had to pack up last night....too tired to think! Can you tell me where you got the info that Mary Ellen's father was John? Reg

Oh Reg thank you..Thought I was blind-deaf and dumb! for a mo there.Yes it is off her marraige cert.She married a Thomas Mitchell in 1914 and fathers name was John Goulden-hawker.As I had no luck finding out her birth,thought it might be best to see if I could work out the family history as their names repeat and through the Gouldens history.I thought that if I tied up them up into family groups then I might get a little closer to finding her.Have done really well on the census`s but a lot of mystery and I dont know why for all of them in 1881.Perhaps miss-spellings...Thanks for coming back Reg as I know if you cant solve it then I dont stand much of a chance.Wanda.x