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Goode, You need to buy her marriage certificates. If that's her in 1901 then it doesn't explain this death in 1900 that Linda found. Deaths Mar 1900 Harris George Henry J 30 Brentford 3a 96 Also, there are no children so it's looking unlikely she had 13. Rose

Well done Andrea Winkle - I think you have found Kate Fruin. Thank you so much

Kate Gadd died Dec qtr 1918 aged 45 Brentford 3a 360

This could be Kate in 1901 Name: Kate Harris Age: 27 Estimated birth year: abt 1874 Relation: Wife Spouse's name: George Gender: Female Where born: Paddington, London, England Civil parish: St Pancras Ecclesiastical parish: St Luke County/Island: London Country: England Registration district: St Pancras Sub-registration district: Camden Town ED, institution, or vessel: 22 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 6 Household Members: Name Age George Harris 29 ?cycle? maker (can't read it) Kate Harris 27 Mary L Morgan 55 Nurse (monthly) Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 151; Folio: 39; Page: 1.

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Perhaps the story was that Kate that was one of 13. That seems more likely. Following her family I've found these 11. Arthur Charles Ricahrd James Mary Elizabeth Annie Kate Alice Henry Frank Fanny Lily Herbert Rose

The births after 1912 all have the incorrect mother's maiden name after them so they can't be yours. Also, it appears Kate was widowed for 13 years so having 13 children seems a bit unlikely, unless she was having twins each time. Rose

Thank you for your advise as I have no living relatives to ask questions -and no idea really where to start and how to search for things -so I am more than greatfull for your help - I live along way away from the area I am searching so it is down to my computer skills which is nill

Hi If you're sending for any certificates and don't want to waste money on ones that are not related, give the registrar details of parents names etc. Most registrars are very helpful and will check details and only send them out if they match

GOODE WARNING< WARNING< WARNING ......... you MUST double check everything that anyone has told you on here, including what I have given you!! And that means getting the certificates, looking at the actual parish records, etc etc. You are the only one who knows the family, you may be able to get the names from living relatives to confirm. BUT YOU NEED THOSE CERTIFICATES! We are NOT foolproof!

Thank you so much for your search I had no idea you were going to give me all the names, I am a real beginner and this is a real leaning kerb for me, also having a computer for the first time. Thank you again

Well done this all fits together, I do remember someone saying that my grandmother or grandfather married twice. Thank you so much

I looked for all the Gadd children born in Brentford (as this seems to be a significant place!) between 1902 and 1917. They are very probably NOT all 'your' family, but there is no way of knowing otherwise. There were 14 Gadd children born between 1902 and 1909. Following are the ones born between 1909 and 1915 ..... 1909 because that looks like your father's birth. Births Dec 1909 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- GADD Richard James Brentford 3a 141 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Births Mar 1911 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Gadd Henry E J Brentford 3a 153 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Births Jun 1911 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Gadd Frank G Brentford 3a 166 Gadd Nelly Brentford 3a 150 Surname First name(s) Mother District Vol Page -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Births Jun 1912 (98%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Gadd George W Rooke Brentford 3a 252 Births Mar 1913 (88%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Gadd George Sheehan Brentford 3a 290 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Births Mar 1915 (73%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- GADD John Sheehan Brentford 3a 317 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Births Jun 1917 (95%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Gadd Rose E Ward Brentford 3a 241 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Births Sep 1917 (90%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Gadd Peter G Barker Brentford 3a 234 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Births Dec 1917 (88%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Gadd Winifred F Rooke Brentford 3a 224 - - - This is all taken from Freebmd which you can look at yourself ..... it's free. BUT they have not yet got the records on after 1913, so you will have to go to ancestry uk, sign on for free to look at the Complete Index to UK Births Marriages and Deaths, and look quarter by quarter, year by year, to see if you can find any more. THEN you will have to buy the certiifcates. It is a tedious task ...... and it is most unfair to ask someone else to do this for you when you do have access for free and can do it yourself!

Goode ........ you'll HAVE to get the marriage certificates to sort this out. Sylvia

Linda, I think you've got it!!! I saw that Fruin/Harris marriage last night, but didn't follow it through! Sylvia

Hi Could your Grandmother have married twice? Found these marriages Marriages Dec 1894 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- *****Fruin Kate Brentford 3a 165 *****Harris George Henry J Brentford 3a 165 Lamb Ada Ellen Brentford 3a 165 Weblin William Brentford 3a 165 Marriages Mar 1913 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Cain Charlotte Clark Brentford 3a 318 Clark John Cain Brentford 3a 318 *****Gadd James Harris Brentford 3a 318 *****Harris Kate Gadd Brentford 3a 318 If her first marriage was to George Harris, looks like his death Deaths Mar 1900 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Harris George 76 Edmonton 3a 265 Harris George 72 Whitechapel 1c 215 *****Harris George Henry J 30 Brentford 3a 96 Linda

My parents were born Mother Lamberth and Father Brentford

My mother name was Miriam Bennett - father name Richard James Gadd

When and where was your dad or mother born and what was thier name? Rose

No Kate Fruin born in Ealing ...... but then Ealing not a registration place until after 1947!!! Could this be the right one?? Surname First name(s) District Vol Page -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Births Sep 1867 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Fruin Kate Helen Richmond, S. 2a 275 Richmond, Surrey , a part of London. - - - - Second thoughts .................... probably not, as this seems to be Kate Helen's marriage in 1890:- Surname First name(s) District Vol Page -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Marriages Mar 1890 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Chandler Henry Charles Brentford 3a 64 Christopher Martha Ada Brentford 3a 64 Crutchfield George Henry Brentford 3a 64 Fruin Kate Helen Brentford 3a 64