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Gail, Send me you email address. Rose

Ladies I can not thank you enough. Would it be possible to have the cencus images sent to me. Thank you so much Gail

Gail, You have to be prepared for shocks in this hobby and keep an open mind. Rose

Looks like Henry mother Ann was a single mother. 1881. Name: Ann Speakman Age: 20 Estimated birth year: abt 1861 Relation: Sister Gender: Female Where born: Farnworth, Lancashire, England Civil parish: Farnworth County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street address: 9 Henry St Education: Employment status: View image Occupation: Pin Winder Registration district: Bolton Sub-registration district: Farnworth ED, institution, or vessel: 2b Ann Speakman abt 1861 Farnworth, Lancashire, England Sister Farnworth Lancashire John Speakman abt 1863 Farnworth, Lancashire, England Head Farnworth Lancashire Lucy Speakman abt 1868 Farnworth, Lancashire, England Sister Farnworth Lancashire Rachel Lees abt 1870 Kearsley, Lancashire, England Niece Farnworth Lancashire

My mouth is hanging open. Mary and Johns children were all born in Barnsley between 1906 and 1912. I can't get my head around this. Gail

Hi Mary Ann Booth nee Whalley was born 1878 in Farnworth as the 1901 census shows. Val

Hi I had seen this earlier and had the same idea as Rose but hadn't followed it up, well here is the marriage Booth Mary A to John H Speakman Bolton. 8c 559 Marriage Dec 1918 Maybe Mr Booth hadn't died when John and Mary Ann met. Val

Gail, I listed her earlier with John Booth and Florence M. Rose

Val, I bet that's it. Too many John Booth's to figure out what happpened to him. Rose

So where was the Mary Ann Whalley born in 1878 in 1901? Gail

1901 Joseph Whalley Age: 54 Estimated birth year: abt 1847 Relation: Head Spouse's name: Elizabeth Gender: Male Where born: Longridge, Devon, England Civil parish: Farnworth Ecclesiastical parish: St Thomas Town: Farnworth County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street address: Occupation: Registration district: Bolton Sub-registration district: Farnworth ED, institution, or vessel: 10 Household schedule number: 262 Household Members: Name Age Ann Whalley 6 Elizabeth Whalley 48 Elizabeth Whalley 15 Joseph Whalley 54 Joseph Whalley 17 Margaret A Whalley 19 Maria Whalley 21 Mary A Whalley 11 Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 3600; Folio: 147; Page: 42. Gail.

1901: Name: Joseph Whalley Age: 54 Estimated birth year: abt 1847 Relation: Head Spouse's name: Elizabeth Gender: Male Where born: Longridge, Devon, England Civil parish: Farnworth Ecclesiastical parish: St Thomas Town: Farnworth County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Registration district: Bolton Sub-registration district: Farnworth ED, institution, or vessel: 10 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 262 Household Members: Name Age Ann Whalley 6 Elizabeth Whalley 48 Elizabeth Whalley 15 Joseph Whalley 54 Joseph Whalley 17 Margaret A Whalley 19 Maria Whalley 21 Mary A Whalley 11 Rose

1891. Living next door to Mary Whalley. Alice Dudley abt 1886 Farnworth, Lancashire, England Daughter Farnworth Lancashire Ann Dudley abt 1862 Kearsley, Lancashire, England Wife Farnworth Lancashire Edward Dudley abt 1863 Wrexham, Denbighshire, Wales Head Farnworth Lancashire John Hy Speakman abt 1882 Farnworth, Lancashire, England Son Farnworth Lancashire Surname First name(s) District Vol Page -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Marriages Mar 1886 (97%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- DUDLEY Edward Bolton 8c 328 Speakman Ann Bolton 8c 328

Gail, That is my family, Fiona, It appears to be the right family but I am confused to there being two Marys. Thank you ladies. Gail

1881: Household: Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability Joseph WHALLEY Head M Male 34 Alston, Lancashire, England Laborer At Gas Works Elizabeth WHALLEY Wife M Female 28 Marple, Cheshire, England Cotton Weaver William WHALLEY Son Male 7 Blackburn, Lancashire, England Scholar James WHALLEY Son Male 5 Farnworth, Lancashire, England Scholar Mary A. WHALLEY Daur Female 3 Farnworth, Lancashire, England Maria WHALLEY Daur Female 1 Farnworth, Lancashire, England -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Source Information: Dwelling 10 Middle St Census Place Farnworth, Lancashire, England Rose

1891? Name: Mary A Whalley Age: 13 Estimated birth year: abt 1878 Relation: Daughter Father's name: Joseph Mother's name: Elizabeth Gender: Female Where born: Farnworth, Lancashire, England Civil parish: Farnworth Ecclesiastical parish: St Thomas County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: Education: Employment status: View image Registration district: Bolton Sub-registration district: Farnworth ED, institution, or vessel: 10 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Elizabeth Whalley 37 Elizabeth Whalley 5 Joseph Whalley 44 Joseph Whalley 7 Margret A Whalley 9 Maria Whalley 11 Mary A Whalley 13 Mary A Whalley 1 William Whalley 17 Elizabeth Whalley abt 1854 Marple, Cheshire, England Wife Farnworth Lancashire Elizabeth Whalley abt 1886 Farnworth, Lancashire, England Daughter Farnworth Lancashire Joseph Whalley abt 1847 Longridge, Lancashire, England Head Farnworth Lancashire Joseph Whalley abt 1884 Farnworth, Lancashire, England Son Farnworth Lancashire Margret A Whalley abt 1882 Farnworth, Lancashire, England Daughter Farnworth Lancashire Maria Whalley abt 1880 Farnworth, Lancashire, England Daughter Farnworth Lancashire Mary A Whalley abt 1878 Farnworth, Lancashire, England Daughter Farnworth Lancashire Mary A Whalley abt 1890 Farnworth, Lancashire, England Daughter Farnworth Lancashire William Whalley abt 1874 Blackburn, Lancashire, England Son Farnworth Lancashire

Florence died a few months after the census: Deaths Sep 1901 (>99%) Booth Florence May 1 Bolton 8c 265 Rose

I am told by family that it is Farnworth that she was born and from the family bible she had siblings Ann 1984, James and Henry 1892, Alice 1899, Elizabeth 1885, Joseph 1883, Margret 1881, Maria 1879, James 1875, William 1873. I believe their father is Joseph. Hope this helps not that it has helped me. Gail

On the 1891 Mary Ann Whalley is living next door to John Henry Speakman and her parents are Joseph and Elizabeth.........I think this is the right person. Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 3095; Folio 64; Page 39; GSU roll: 6098205. Gail.

There is this Mary Ann Whalley on the 1901. Could there be a mistake with the Failsworth/Farnsworth? The image does say Failsworth though. 1901 England Census about Mary Ann Whalley Name: Mary Ann Whalley Age: 18 Estimated birth year: abt 1883 Relation: Daughter Father's name: William Mother's name: Jane Gender: Female Where born: Failsworth, Lancashire, England Civil parish: Failsworth Ecclesiastical parish: St John County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: Education: Employment status: View image Registration district: Prestwich Sub-registration district: Failsworth ED, institution, or vessel: 10 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 41 Household Members: Name Age Ellen Whalley 19 Jane Whalley 56 Mary Ann Whalley 18 William Whalley 59 View Original Record View original image View bla