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Would someone please do a look up for me for a William Jonathan HAMMOND a tailor by occupation with wife Emma Louisa (ages unknown). The one known child is Marian HAMMOND c1857. Likely places to be living Newington / Bethnal Green. I have just discovered that I had been working in the wrong Hammond tree. Thank you.

Is this the right birth details? Births Dec 1857 Hammond Marian Maria Newington 1d 203 Maureen

Yes Glitter, that is right. I have just received the certificate today.

1861 Census Mary Ann Hammond Age: 4 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1857 Relation: Granddaughter Father's name: William Mother's name: Emma Gender: Female Where born: Grendon, Buckinghamshire, England Civil parish: Grendon Underwood Ecclesiastical parish: Grendon Underwood County/Island: Buckinghamshire Country: England Registration district: Aylesbury Sub-registration district: Haddenham ED, institution, or vessel: 8 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 82 Rosetta Gortelow 62 head Wootton, bucks Emma Hammond 25 daughter Grendon, bucks Levinia Elizabeth Hammond 6 Mo granddaughter Grendon, bucks Mary Ann Hammond 4 granddaughter, grendon, bucks Rosannah Hammond 5 granddaughter, grendon bucks William Hammond 31 son-in-law, Brickmaker, Dylesbury, bucks Wm Joseph Hammond 2 grandson Grendon, bucks Annie

Forgot to add Rosetta Gortelow 62 head Wootton, bucks - Supported by Parish

SORRY i just looked again and noticed you have MARIAN as the daughter. Sorry, my mistake, its late for me, must go to bed LOL Take no notice of me, Annie

Thanks for looking Annie but I don't think that can be the correct family. Marian was born in Newington and I think the family would be found around that area somewhere.

Just thought I would check back on this thread and see if any progress. There is this possible marriage for a Marian Maria Hammond Marriages Jun 1876 Camberwell 1d 990 Charles Harris or James Skinner Maureen

Thank you very much Maureen, I do already have the marriage certificate. I now have the names of Marian's parents and am trying to find any census records for the family. I have checked the 1861 and 1881 myself but haven't found them. Probably mis-transcribed somewhere. I am also looking for the marriage reference for Emma Louisa Staples and William Jonathan Hammond. I spent half of last night looking at a variety of combinations but could not find that either! Thank you for trying to help me though.

Janie, Where is Marian in 1881-1901? Rose

Cheers Rose, She was married in 1876. It is Hammond family that I want to find. Marian was born 1857 at 3 Gloster Place, Westmorland Road, Newington in the Paris of St Peter Walworth. I haven't even been able to find a marriage cert for her parents. Are you able to help please?

Was just trying to see where Marian states she was born or by what name she went by. It would help immensely if you could post the details from the census records you have. Rose

Is this the parents marriage? Marriages Dec 1854 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hammond William Bethnal Green 1c 515 Morss Elizabeth Bethnal Green 1c 515 Nash Emma Bethnal Green 1c 515 Riley Richard Bethnal Green 1c 515

Thank you Rose. I have the birth, marriage and death certs for Marian. I have her on the 1901 where she is married. On each occasion the name used for her was Marian. In the 1901 census (the only one I have found her on) she gives place of birth as Newington. The birth place is confirmed in the birth certificate (details given above). I think the family are 'hiding' somewhere in the sea of mistranscriptions. Janie

Thank you K, On Marian's birth certificate it gives her parents details as follows: William Jonathan Hammond - occupation tailor. Emma Louisa Hammond formerly Staples. I am therefore looking for the union of William Jonathan Hammond and Emma Louisa Staples. Thank you for looking anyway. It was nice of you.

Janie, So what was her surname then in 1901? Who were her children? What was her husband's name? Rose

Hello Rose Thanks. I know where she is on the 1901 census. Her married name was HARRIS but right now I am interested in her before then when she was Marian HAMMOND. It would be nice to find her with the HAMMOND family in the 1861 & 1871 census returns and discover her siblings and a bit more about her parents. I am also interested in finding the marriage reference for her parents which so far I have not been able to do. Many thanks,

Was hoping that the 1901 would have children that could be found in 1891 but no such luck. Mistranscribed as Herris. They are not at the same address in 1891 as in 1901. Back to the drawing board again Maureen

Maureen Yes you have found the HARRIS family in the 1901, they are mistranscribed as HERRIS. Are you saying that you have found THAT family in 1891?

Janie, I KNOW you're looking for the marriage of Marian's parents but unless we can find her on a census records we don't have much to work with. If we can find her in 1860 we might discover her parents were in their 40s and perhaps married before civil registration started. That might be one reason for the missing marriage. We need to start forwards and then work backwards. Too bad there are no children older than 10 in the 1901 census. Can you list Charles' occupation on the marriage cert, witnesses and any addresses? There might be more clues there. Rose