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I've tried looking on google for Union Row, Shoreditch but nothing current appearing. I wonder if it was near the Grand Union Canal?

Many thanks to you all. You are all stars and helped me no end. Now back to the research !!! Margaret

A possible for Caroline in 1841 - if you say the surname, this is a possible spelling Name: Caroline Gwynn (she is a servant) Age: 18 (not born in county of Surrey) Estimated Birth Year: abt 1823 Civil parish: St Giles Camberwell Hundred: Brixton (Eastern Division) County: Surrey Source information: HO107/1050/2 Registration district: Camberwell Sub-registration district: Camberwell ED, institution, or vessel: 3 Folio: 8 Page: 10

Sorry - got to dash out to vet - dog not well. Hope someone else can take over here. Elaine

Elaine, Thank you for your interest and time. It now looks as if I have found William and Harriett with at least 2 children. Ellen and Caroline. At the 1841 census Caroline might have been in service somewher. Please can you tell me where Union Row. is. M.

Christine, Yes this is them, Many thanks for your interest and help. M

So this is Caroline in 1851 Caroline Hawkes abt 1824 Shoreditch, Middlesex, England Wife Christchurch Spitalfields Middlesex George H Hawkes abt 1850 Christchurch, Middlesex, England Son Christchurch Spitalfields Middlesex James Hawkes abt 1823 London City Bishopsgate Head Christchurch Spitalfields Middlesex James Hawkes abt 1849 Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England Son Christchurch Spitalfields Middlesex Ann Gusin abt 1847 Shoreditch, Middlesex, England Daughter Christchurch Spitalfields Middlesex Joseph Gusin abt 1825 Shoreditch, Middlesex, England Brother Christchurch Spitalfields Middlesex Gusin - should be Guin so also has a brother Joseph !!

1851 Name: Caroline Hawkes Age: 27 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1824 Relation: Wife Spouses's Name: James Where born: Shoreditch, Middlesex, England Civil parish: Christchurch Spitalfields County/Island: Middlesex Registration district: Whitechapel Sub-registration district: Artillery Household Members: Name Age Ann Gusin 4 (born Shoreditch, daughter of Joseph) Joseph Gusin 26 (brother, widower, painter) Guin on image Caroline Hawkes 27 George H Hawkes 4 Mo James Hawkes 28 (umbrella maker) born Bishopgate James Hawkes 2

Elaine, This looks promising. She could be a sibling to Caroline. Caroline married James Hawkes in Hoxton June 1848 M

Who did Caroline marry ?

Thought Caroline and Ellen (from 1841) might be the same - but just found this on the IGI for Ellen ELLEN HARRIET GUINN Female Birth: 14 MAY 1835 Christening: 15 JUN 1835 Saint Leonards, Shoreditch, London, England Parents: Father: WILLIAM GUINN Family Mother: HARRIET

sorry - you say you guessed Carolines age from marriage certificate - presume you mean her marriage certificate. Have you not found her in a later census so that you can confirm her year of birth ?

Elaine, I was given the marriage of William and harriet from some infor from someone on this site. but I dont know when it took place M

Who/when did Caroline marry? Perhaps we can find her on a census return and then work out when/where she was born.

I guessed Caroline the daughters age from the marriage cert.

so the 1841 I found looks a possibility. Where have you found the info that William Guinn married Harriett Simpson - and when and where did they marry?

Elaine. I think you are on the right track. On his daughter Carolines wedding cert. William Guinn is given as a tailor. Margaret

If you have other census info, please post it, to help with the search......... William's occupation would be useful............ Reg

Do you know William´s occupation ? Where did you find the age for Caroline ?

Sorry reg, a senior moment!!!! Born approx. 1801 Margaret