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Don't get your hopes up .... might be red herring: Deaths Naval Ratings James M Henderson 1944 Vol 5 Page 1771 Naval Rating: A/A.B Ship/Unit: Swale. Hopefully someone can shed some light on the Rating : A / A.B ... and if Swale is the name of a Ship. It MIGHT be NOTHING ... but I was looking for someone else !. and fell over it ! I can only assume you would be able to send for this Death Cert in the same way as you would a normal one ... but I really do NOT know. The Volume and Page Number MUST mean something .!' You need to ask advice from someone who knows about the forces !.. in particular the Navy ! Elaine ;-)

Sorry to dash any hopes but I think this is the guy you found Elaine..............Unit H.M.S. Swale Name: HENDERSON, JAMES MELVILLE Initials: J M Nationality: United Kingdom Rank: Able Seaman Regiment: Royal Navy Unit Text: H.M.S. Swale Age: 18 Date of Death: 30/10/1944 Service No: P/JX 626635 Additional information: Son of W. M. and Janet A. Henderson, of Kirkcaldy, Fife. Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead Grave/Memorial Reference: Panel 82, Column 2. Memorial: PORTSMOUTH NAVAL MEMORIAL

Did I find him ????? !!!!! Oh well .... never mind ! it was worth a try I suppose ! Wouldn't be the first time I've met myself on the way back !!!! So much info, so many loose ends, no wonder we're all getting tangled up with this one !! ..lol ! Sorry to raise any hopes folks :-( Elaine ;-)

A/AB acting able seaman I'm following this with interest

Cheers Linda ! Stick around ... we might need you again !!!! If lady luck decides to show her face !! Elaine ;-)

SO MANY LOOSE ENDS, SO MANY BRICKWALLS, Could do with a huge bull dozer to knock it down, Im going to see Dereck Acorah tomorrow night hes doing ghost towns live in halifax where i live, Perhaps i should pull him to one side and ask him,to ask james where and when he married florence,lol....... Traceyxx

Tracey, Joking aside .... I started my tree with the information that a Medium gave me. 98% of it was 100% accurate. If you get chance, pull Derek to one side and ask him ....PLEAAAAAASEEEE !!! When he died would be good enough !! I'm trawling the internet for information regarding SS Gulfport .... all I can find is the retirement home in Gulfport for Naval folks ....! (getting a bit closer though !!) Elaine ;-)

Elaine, if they was even a slightest chance of me being able to i would, security would be so tight due to it being televised, knowing my luck i would seize an open oppertunity,and spend a night in a prison cell, Due to lady luck not knowing me or where i live. Does anybody have her email add so i can give her my details,next time she feels like shelling some luck out she will no where to find me.LOL tracey

Hi all, have just read this with interest...... i am going to Huddersfield library on Saturday ..... anything i can look up if you all cannot wait for the postman ??? Pm me if you want me to take a look at anything from the Halifax area..... Sue xxx

Hi everyone, Only my thought but we know the National Archives have Navel admissions up to 1928 some of which are available on line, I've checked those and he doesn't seem to be there........ Now are the online records complete or not? Might be an idea to get intouch with the national archives and find out, if they're not then you might want to ask them to do a search for you. We know he signed up before 1922(Benjamin birth) so he should be on their records!! His admission papers will at least give a date of birth and possibly a lot more..........like fathers name and address at the time. Got to be worth a shot at this stage.......... Fiona. x P.S. Might also be handy to have the birth certificate for James 1921 to see if he was in the Navy then also.

OMG !!! Sue Smith !! have your ears been tingling today ! was talking about you about 2 hours ago !! Sue, I wouldn't swear to it BUT I think Tracey lives close by ... I'm sure she will tell us if I'm wrong ! I MIGHT e.mail you seperately darling - best buddy - !!! I have some lookups for births/marriages Keighley you MIGHT be able to help me with ??? Elaine ;-))) Fiona, I agree, I think the James M Henderson birth cert would be advantageous ..... if only to discount him as a son of Flo & Jim or brother to Benjamin !!!! Elaine ;-))

Hello Elaine, Close by so where,Keighley, yes i do i was born halifax and moved to keighley,before i was 1 and lived there till i wa 17. Tracey

he he he !! I MIGHT be in touch about some of my distant rellies one day then !!! But for the moment, I'm happily reading all the various marriages that took place on board ship !! So romantic !!!!! Elaine ;-) Kids will need my attention soon, so I may disappear for tea !

Hi Elaine, no problem.... e mail them to me, will try my best. Oddly enough... i am going with my cousin five times removed, i met through hot matches on here ! First time i will have met her... but i promise... i will be on my best behavour, lol. Sue xxx

Oh that poor soul !! Give me your rellies details and I'll introduce myself - promise I won't breath a WORD about you !! lol ! Actually, its easier to just say ... want any 'Craven' birth in Keighley !! around about 1800 +/- 20 years ! ... and any 'Craven' marriage about 1840 +/- 20 years !! ......... but I suppose it would only take me a short while to sort the actuall names out ! I'll be in touch .... as soon as I get chance !

Morning to all, Elaine, A quick post to let you know i have decided to go to the registry office this morning, going to see if i can get the certs whilst i am there,i know they said they have a back log but its got to be worth a try after all they have been on order for a few weeks now, will also see if i can appeal to there better nature and get james m henderson junior b cert whilst i am there, extreamly busy today so will try and post again with the results,if not will def post in the morning. Traceyx

Hi Tracey, I'm resurrecting the thread by posting your info !! Brill News !!! hi elaine, james m henderson junior, birth cert arrived this morning, i tried to post on your thread but can not find it, RESULT!!!! james mclean henderson born 11th jan 1921. mother florence henderson formerly monday. father james mclean henderson. fathers occ--naval stoker h.m.s butetown. informant,florence henderson. birthplace--the dean stainland. do you think we might find something under the fathers occ it is diff to benjamins birth cert, they may have got married on board the ship in question. tracey I'll have a look on the net !!!! under HMS Butetown ! Elaine ;-) Update: Don't like the look of this !!! Name Type Depth(M) Date Lost Level Of Dive Butetown Steamship 58 1918 Technical Nitrox/Trimix Can't be the same one .... ?? This is a seperate entry on the net: British warships sunk in the Mediterranean Sea in the 20th century HMS Butetown collier Mediterranean 1916 I don't understand this, ......... unless there are more than one ship wih same name ???? Just going to ask on Tips board !

Not a lot of use to you, but my Grandfather who was in the Navy from at least 1900-1929 doesnt appear on the NA listings - I have a piccy of him in his uniform and on his marriage certificate he was also a fireman on HMS Rollcall. So, I guess the answer is no, their listings arent complete.

Cheers Heather, That's a great help. At least now, Tracey or sarah can get in touch with NA and see if they can do a search with the little information they have...... Cheers Elaine ;-)

hi elaine,and all, just posting to let you know that i am still searching,but will have to excuse myself now till about 5pm ish,going to watch my son play his first footie match bless him, will be back as soon as i can, also have loads of news about that spook i told you about,i have had to get my house exorsised today(gives me the chills to think about it) speak soon tracey x