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PippaMelanie

PippaMelanie Report 31 Oct 2005 11:40

Hello, I found on a census , a Samuel Moor,born 1857, Son in Law, born in Romsey with my rellies who are living in North Baddesley,Hampshire.I know of four of their daughters and would like to know which one he was married to, I've looked and looked on freeBMD and can't find it anywhere, can anyone else help? the four daughter that i know of who he may have married are:- Sarah Francis Smith-b.1843,Elizabeth Smith-b.1847,Kate Smith,B.1860 and Alice Smith-B.1863.Any help greatfull FOUND WHO IT WAS

Kate

Kate Report 31 Oct 2005 11:41

Don't forget that 'son-in-law' often meant 'step-son', so is it possible that he was the son of the wife of the head of household by her previous husband? Kate.

PippaMelanie

PippaMelanie Report 31 Oct 2005 11:42

Here are the daughters more clearly:- Sarah Francis Smith-b.1843 Elizabeth Smith-b.1847 Kate Smith-B.1860 Alice Smith-B.1863. and the man Samuel Moor-B.1857 The address I found him at with the girls parents in 1881:-Street End,North Baddesley,Hampshire

Kate

Kate Report 31 Oct 2005 11:43

Oh, and if you are searching for Samuel Moor, I would recommend also searching for him under Moore and More. Kate.

Esta

Esta Report 31 Oct 2005 11:44

What census did you find him on - 1881 ?

Kate

Kate Report 31 Oct 2005 11:44

Er... if he was born 1867 and he is 'son in law' in 1881, he will almost certainly be a step-son - otherwise he would be married at 14! Anyway, what does it say for his marital status on the 1881? Kate.

PippaMelanie

PippaMelanie Report 31 Oct 2005 11:46

Hello, Thanks for that information I didn't know that, I haven't found their parents marriage cert yet so maybe she was married before, the earliest I've found them married is 1851 when they where she was 21 and he 30 so I don't think taht he was her or his son from before but thanks anyway x

Kate

Kate Report 31 Oct 2005 11:47

The transcription on ancestry gives his year of birth as 1857 not 1867, just looking at the image to check his age...

Esta

Esta Report 31 Oct 2005 11:48

1881 has him born 1857 not 1867 which is right ?

PippaMelanie

PippaMelanie Report 31 Oct 2005 11:48

Hi yes I've tried searching him under different spellings but nothing came up and it says he is married and that he is 24, I miss-minused, my maths isn't the best! lol SORRY EVERYONE How silly am i?! I've corrected them now thanks everyone

Kate

Kate Report 31 Oct 2005 11:52

Well, if you're certain that the wife is the same Sarah as in 1851, then all I can suggest is as I said before, search for the marriage in the surnames Moore and More as well as Moor, and also look for him on the 1891 and 1901 to see if his wife is with him on either of those. I'm afraid I haven't got time to help search just now as I have to go out. Good luck! I know how difficult Smiths can be to trace... Kate.

Esta

Esta Report 31 Oct 2005 11:53

Not sure this helps as you don't mention a daughter called Ellen - followed Samuel through the folowing census and I think this is him . 1891 - Possible Samuel Moor* Moore, Ellen abt 1864 Chilworth, Hampshire, England Wife Hursley Hampshire **Moore, Samuel abt 1856 Romsey, Hampshire, England Head Hursley Hampshire Moore, Samuel E E abt 1889 Baddesley, Hampshire, England Son Hursley Hampshire 1901 Ellen Moore abt 1865 Southampton, Hampshire, England Wife Chilworth Hampshire Ellen Moore abt 1894 Ampfield; Hursley, Hampshire, England Daughter Chilworth Hampshire Louise Moore abt 1899 North Stoneham, Hampshire, England Daughter Chilworth Hampshire Samuel Moore abt 1826 Romsey, Hampshire, England Boarder Chilworth Hampshire ** Samuel Moore abt 1856 Romsey, Hampshire, England Head Chilworth Hampshire Samuel Moore abt 1889 North Stoneham, Hampshire, England Son Chilworth Hampshire

PippaMelanie

PippaMelanie Report 31 Oct 2005 11:54

I found him on the North Baddesley census.......heres the link, he's with the parents William Smith and Sarah Smith and their youngest son Mark:-http://homepage(.)ntlworld(.)com/sandra(.)s/1881Census(.)html remove brackets

PippaMelanie

PippaMelanie Report 31 Oct 2005 11:55

Thanks Kate I'll try again x

PippaMelanie

PippaMelanie Report 31 Oct 2005 11:59

hummm this is very confusing...I've never seen a Ellen erm and I do think that the Sarah is the same Sarah....well i hope!

Gwyn in Kent

Gwyn in Kent Report 31 Oct 2005 12:01

1861 Census Samuel Moore abt 1826 Romsey, Hampshire, England Head St Mary Extra Hampshire Samuel Moore abt 1856 Romsey, Hampshire, England Son St Mary Extra Hampshire Sarah Moore abt 1829 Timobury, Hampshire, England Wife St Mary Extra Hampshire Sarah L Moore abt 1859 Romsey, Hampshire, England Daughter St Mary Extra Hampshire This suggests his mother was Sarah, although p.o.b. is not the same

Esta

Esta Report 31 Oct 2005 12:05

I think you need to trace Samuel Moor* back in the cenus - he MAY not have married a daughter Good luck Esta

PippaMelanie

PippaMelanie Report 31 Oct 2005 12:09

oooh dear arn't our ancestors confusing! well it seems that maybe his mum was called sarah but my sarah seems to be the same one.....although she does change age a couple of years either side each census. looks like more searching for me

Esta

Esta Report 31 Oct 2005 12:12

Pippa - I think your Smith / Moor* just goes to prove that you can never assume anything with ancestors and census info needs to backed with certs.

Kate

Kate Report 31 Oct 2005 14:36

Back now - don't forget that Ellen could be Samuel's second wife for all we know, not the Smith one. Kate.