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Would it be possible for you to do a look-up in the 1851 Lanarkshire index for an Arthur HAWTHORN(E).?? He was born in 1836 so would be about 15 years old. His parents would be another Arthur HAWTHORN(E) and either a Christina or Margaret. Any information would be great. Thank you Sally

Hi Michelle, Many thanks for the information on the Colburn and Ross families in Edinburgh. I notice that Colburn has been transcribed as Colborn, but it is definitely my family, because of the ages and birthplaces of Johns' parents. It also looks as if it could very well be my Ross family. I don't know exactly when Margarets' father, John was born, but i know that his father was named James, which with the old Scottish way of naming children would make sense for his eldest son to be called James. Many thanks once again, your help is really appreciated, regards Norman.

Sally I think this could be your family. Arthur Hawthorn aged 51 born Glasgow living in parish of Cambusnethan Dist 8 Page 3 No 10 Christina Hawthorn aged 48 born Old Monkland living in parish of Cambusnethan Dist 8 Page 3 No 11 John Hawthorn aged 21 born Glasgow living in parish of Cambusnethan Dist 8 Page 3 No 12 Arthur Hawthorn aged 15 born Rutherglen living in parish of Cambusnethan Dist 8 Page 3 No 13 Agnes Hawthorn aged 13 born Cambuslang living in parish of Cambusnethan Dist 8 Page 3 No 14 Leivy Hawthorn aged 4 born Bothwell living in parish of Cambusnethan Dist 8 Page 3 No 15 Cheers Michelle

Hi Michelle, On the 1851 census could you please check: Patrick BRAY c1844 (age 18 at 1862 marriage) parents Patrick and Mary. He was born in Ireland; trying to get information as to where in Ireland. Hoping he was in Scotland by '51. Annie MCKENNA c1846 (age 16 at 1862 marriage) parents Bernard and Rose. Born in Ireland; as above. James MILLER c1837 parents James and Elizabeth; trying to find area of birth so I can check parish registers. Jane BUCHANAN c1838 parents Thomas and Janet; as above. Could you please include anyone with same surname on the page. Thanks. Margaret

James Here is a possible for Margaret and young Robert, Margaret is listed as Head but not as a widow - as married so her husband is sway from home which would fit with you saying they immigrated to Canada that year, maybe Peter was on board ship to Canada at the time of the census and sent for Margaret and kids later on. There were no Peter Roll's anywhere else in Scotland on their own and I checked England and Wales just in case! Dwelling: 19 Moore St Census Place: Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland Source: FHL Film 0203638 GRO Ref Volume 644-3 EnumDist 10 Page 14 Marr Age Sex Birthplace Margaret ROLLO M 26 F Chappelhall, Lanark, Scotland Rel: Head Occ: Housekeeper Annie ROLLO U 6 F Chappelhall, Lanark, Scotland Rel: Daur Robert ROLLO U 3 M Chappelhall, Lanark, Scotland Rel: Son Rebecca ROLLO U 7 m M Chappelhall, Lanark, Scotland Rel: Daur Ann SMITH M 26 F Auchinleck, Ayr, Scotland Rel: Visitor Occ: Steam Washer Woman Francis SMITH 7 M Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland Rel: Visitor Occ: Scholar Cheers Michelle

Margaret Hi No luck with Patrick Bray infact no Bray's at all born in Ireland. The same for Annie Mckenna. I have a James Miller and family but no Elizabeth but that could be either she was away from home that night or James her husband was a Widow. Better luck with Buchanan's I think this could be the right family!! Thomas Buchanan aged 35 born Sti Kilsyth living in parish of Old Monkland Dist 16 Page 16 No 10 Janet Buchanan aged 34 born Sti Kilsyth living in parish of Old Monkland Dist 16 Page 16 No 11 Isabel Buchanan aged 14 born Sti Kilsyth living in parish of Old Monkland Dist 16 Page 16 No 12 Jane Buchanan aged 12 born Sti Kilsyth living in parish of Old Monkland Dist 16 Page 16 No 13 Robert Buchanan aged 10 born Sti Kilsyth living in parish of Old Monkland Dist 16 Page 16 No 14 John Buchanan aged 8 born Sti Kilsyth living in parish of Old Monkland Dist 16 Page 16 No 15 Thomas Buchanan aged 6 born Sti Kilsyth living in parish of Old Monkland Dist 16 Page 16 No 16 Janet Buchanan aged 4 born Sti Kilsyth living in parish of Old Monkland Dist 16 Page !6 No 17 Alexander Buchanan aged 2 born Old Monkalnd living in parish of Old Monkland Dist 16 Page 16 No 18 Daughter aged 1 month born Old Monklnad living in parish of Old Monkland Dist 16 Page 16 No 19 James Miller aged 57 born Dalziel living in parish of Cambusnethan Dist 6 Page 6 No 9 Adam Miller aged 16 born Dalziel living in parish of Cambusnethan Dist 6 Page 6 No 10 James Miller aged 14 born New Monkland living in parish of Cambusnethan Dist 6 Page 6 No 11 Marion Miller aged 10 born Lks Wishaw living in parish of Cambusnethan Dist 6 Page 6 No 12 Christine Miller aged 7 born Lks Wishaw living in parish of Cambusnethan Dist 6 Page 6 No 13 Janet Miller aged 5 born Lks Wishaw living in parish of Cambusnethan Dist 6 Page 6 No 14 Cheers Michelle

Thank you Michelle. The Buchanans are definitely mine. I'll keep the Millers handy just in case they turn out to be mine too. Margaret

looking for parents or relatives of john muir 1912cc campbeltown,any help appreciated think they were dockers.