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Sheena

Sheena Report 2 Sep 2007 22:16

I'm not sure, but I think I just found William's marriage to Harriet Maria Hall, but it's dated 25th Dec 1871.
Found that on IGI, so I guess I better try and work out some of the other kids.

Thanks again for your help... the quest goes on!

Sheena x

Linda

Linda Report 2 Sep 2007 22:36

1861 England Census
about William George
Name: William George
Age: 35
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1826
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Eliza
Gender: Male
Where born: Norton, Warwickshire, England

Civil Parish: Harborne
Ecclesiastical parish: North Harborne
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View Image

Registration district: Kings Norton
Sub-registration district: Harborne
ED, institution, or vessel: 10
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 158
Household Members: Name Age
Eliza George 31
Sarah Louisa George 6
Thomas George 4
Walter Marshall George 10
William George 35
Harriett Marshald 27

Interesting! Harriett Marshall was a 'visitor' occupation, nursemaid and strangely similar to Harriet Maria Hall.


Linda

Linda Report 2 Sep 2007 22:45



1851 England Census
about William George
Name: William George
Age: 25
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1826
Relation: Mar
Gender: Male
Where born: Norton Lindsey, Warwickshire, England

Civil Parish: Harborne
Ecclesiastical parish: North Harborne
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image

Registration district: Kings Norton
Sub-registration district: Harborne
ED, institution, or vessel: 2g
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 51
Household Members: Name Age
Eliza George 21
Walter M George 10 Mo
William George 25
Sarah Horton 12
Harriet Marshall 17

Harriet Marshall is listed as 'sister-in-law', servant.


Linda

Linda Report 2 Sep 2007 22:58

Marriages Mar 1848 (>99%)
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George William Kings Norton 18 425

Marshall Eliza Kings Norton 18 425


Harborne is in the Kings Norton reg district. William could have married Eliza in 1848 and her sister Harriett in 1871. Possible death for Eliza:

Deaths Dec 1865 (>99%)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Marshall Eliza Birmingham 6d 99



Sheena

Sheena Report 2 Sep 2007 23:08

Well i was just gonna go to bed, but I definetly think I got it.
I just looked up marriages on BMD fo William George an Harriett... I got 2 back!
No Harriett Maria Hall mentioned... but... I got Harriett Swingler andddddd.....
Harriet Marshall.

So, did Harriet take over from her sister Eliza then, meaning after she died? Eliza would be he's first wife, and Harriet would be the 2nd?

Interestingly enough, I just searched up Eliza Marshall and found her to have a marriage the same month and year. (ignore this bit, confused again)

Marriages Mar 1848 (>99%)
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CASHMORE Edwin Kings Norton 18 425
COTTERILL Mary Ann Kings Norton 18 425
>>>George William Kings Norton 18 425
GORMAN James Richard Kings Norton 18 425
>>>Marshall Eliza Kings Norton 18 425
SUTTON Ann Kings Norton 18 425
Swingler Harriett Kings Norton 18 425
Tandy Thomas Kings Norton 18 425



Marriages Jun 1862 (97%)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Andrews Samuel Kings N 6c 575
>>>George William Kings N 6c 575
>>>MARSHALL Harriett Kings Norton 6c 575
Perry Katherine Kings N 6c 575


What are you thinking?

Sheena x

(Looks to be another late one)

Sheena

Sheena Report 2 Sep 2007 23:15

I had the same thought as you, maybe he had married Eliza and then married Harriett Hall... but then thinking about it... Harriet has been persistantly there the whole time. He could of been a swinger... lol, sorry.

But if he did marry Harriett Marshall in 1862, and you have Eliza's death in 1865.. would they have got divorced? It don't seem likely if he has all the kid's!

Could she have been ill? Or was William a biggamist?

Thinking caps on!

Sheena

Sheena Report 2 Sep 2007 23:16

The other thing was I was unable to find a marriage between Harriett Marshall and anyone named Hall, but I haven't tried IGI for that yet.

Edit***Nothing on IGI

Sheena

Sheena Report 2 Sep 2007 23:29

Cracked it...

Found the death of Eliza.


Deaths Dec 1861 (>99%)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

George Eliza Kings N 6c 245

Which would make it possible for him to marry Harriett!

What a puzzle?!?!

Linda

Linda Report 3 Sep 2007 00:26

Why are other peoples' families so much more interesting than mine?! Hmmph. I think your record for Eliza's death sounds by far the more likely one. He didn't hang about did he! I'll send you the census records tomorrow as I very cleverly didn't save them. So glad that it all seems to be fitting together.

Linda

Sheena

Sheena Report 3 Sep 2007 16:54

Ok I bit the bullet and tried to track William back further.. found him in 1851 and Harriett was still living with him and Eliza then.
She must have been a really good sister!

Anyhow, now looking at the 1841, I'm kinda torn!
I know nothing of the old time town names, but couldn't find he's named town of birth North Lindsey.
What I did find what someone who matched the same age bracket, but was born...

Name: William George
Age: 15
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1826
Gender: Male
Where born: Warwickshire, England

Civil Parish: Alcester
Hundred: Barlichway (Alcester Division)
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England

Still in Warwickshire, could it be the same one?

Linda

Linda Report 3 Sep 2007 22:14

Just did a quick search and found that Norton Lindsey comes under Barlichway, couldn't find a christening for William on IGI though. Maybe someone with access to Warwickshire parish records would be able to help? I'm still struggling with pre-census info!