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census look up around 1854 please.

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Sarah

Sarah Report 6 Sep 2007 20:15

i have been searching all day but am haveing great dificulty, james chowney convicted of shooting to ressist arrest, trial in kingston upon thames , sent to botany bay in aug 1858, it says that he was married with a child but cant find any info on them at all and i cant find anything for james parents and siblings can anyone help please.

webwiz

webwiz Report 6 Sep 2007 20:19

Here's a possible in 1851:

Name: James Chowney
Age: 14
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1837
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Robert
Mother's Name: Hannah
Gender: Male
Where born: Woking, Surrey, England

Civil Parish: Woking
County/Island: Surrey
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image

Registration district: Guildford
Sub-registration district: Woking
ED, institution, or vessel: 2c
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 95
Household Members: Name Age
George Chowney 5
Hannah Chowney 29
James Chowney 14
Mary Chowney 13
Robert Chowney 39

Do you have any other clues eg age?

Vera

Vera Report 6 Sep 2007 20:20

Hi Sarah,
Is this them in 1851
1851 England Census
about James Chowney
Name: James Chowney
Age: 14
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1837
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Robert
Mother's Name: Hannah
Gender: Male
Where born: Woking, Surrey, England

Civil Parish: Woking
County/Island: Surrey
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image

Registration district: Guildford
Sub-registration district: Woking
ED, institution, or vessel: 2c
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 95
Household Members: Name Age
George Chowney 5
Hannah Chowney 29
James Chowney 14
Mary Chowney 13
Robert Chowney 39


Regards Vera

Sarah

Sarah Report 6 Sep 2007 20:24

he was born around 1830 as he was 28 in 1857 when he was convicted.

Vera

Vera Report 6 Sep 2007 20:28

Hi Sarah,

You probably have seen this.....

James Chowney
Age: 1830
Year: 1857
Trial Place: Kingston On Thames
State: WA
Status: M 1 chd
Ship: Edwin Fox
Occupation: Farm lab

Regards Vera

Sarah

Sarah Report 6 Sep 2007 20:33

yeah got all that but any thing concerning his wife and child or even parents is a bit of a loss , i have tryed all sorts of searches and nothing. thank by the way guys means a lot .

webwiz

webwiz Report 6 Sep 2007 20:34

The one we found in 1851 (see above) looks a bit too young. Many people were unsure of their exact age in those days but the difference here seems too big. There is no other James Chowney in the 1851 census but that does not mean he did not exist, just that he missed the census for some reason, or his name may have been mistranscribed.

Vera

Vera Report 6 Sep 2007 20:39

Hi Sarah,
I wonder if this is James's marriage


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Marriages Sep 1855 (>99%)
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CHOUNEY James Guildford 2a 79
SEARLE Eliza Guildford 2a 79
SEARLE Harriet Guildford 2a 79
Wheeler George Guildford 2a 79

Regards Vera

Sarah

Sarah Report 6 Sep 2007 20:40

well if it is any help our family name was spelt chouney way back when lol.

Vera

Vera Report 6 Sep 2007 20:43

Hi Sarah,
Found some births around the right time for the child....

Births Dec 1855 (>99%)
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Chowney Henry Guildford 2a 30





Births Jun 1857 (66%)
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Chowney Annie Guildford 2a 35

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Births Sep 1857 (96%)
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Chowney Fanny Harriett Guildford 2a 31

Regards Vera

Sarah

Sarah Report 6 Sep 2007 20:44

we have a harriet seal married to chowney , but i really dont know any more i thought that was later on .

Vera

Vera Report 6 Sep 2007 20:47

Hi Sarah,

This James Chowney married a Harriet Searle........there is a child born Sept 1857 Fanny Harriet Chowney
Unfortunately the only way to find out which child is theirs is a birth certificate.

Regards Vera

Sarah

Sarah Report 6 Sep 2007 20:47

fanny had a brother james i think lol. thank you so much i came up with those names too but couldnt get a solid conection.

Vera

Vera Report 6 Sep 2007 20:52

Hi Sarah,
What about the other births?
Regards Vera

Sarah

Sarah Report 6 Sep 2007 21:01

well we have a thomas chowney born 1832 ish so i was trying to find out if james chowney was his brother as we have achowney who was convicted and sent to botany bay ,

Sarah

Sarah Report 6 Sep 2007 21:08

i also know from wot my great aunt says , is that it was our great great ect grandad who faught to get our chowney a reprive and won , he was being shipped back when the hit storms and the ship sunk , he was there a good few years.

Vera

Vera Report 6 Sep 2007 21:09

Hi Sarah,
The birth I am talking about is the child of James ( the convict )....the one I mentioned fanny Harriet is the wrong one, as you said that was James's sister.....what about the other ones I found.

Regards Vera

Ozibird

Ozibird Report 6 Sep 2007 21:15

Is this your Thomas?

1851:
Name: Thomas Chowney
Age: 22
Estimated birth year: abt 1829
Relation: Son
Father's name: John
Gender: Male
Where born: Woking, Surrey, England

Civil parish: Woking
County/Island: Surrey
Country: England

Street address: Hook Heath

Occupation: ag lab

Registration district: Guildford
Sub-registration district: Woking
ED, institution, or vessel: 2c
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 92
Household Members: Name Age
John Chowney 66 - ag lab
William Chowney 27
Frances Chowney 24
Thomas Chowney 22

Sarah

Sarah Report 6 Sep 2007 21:15

cant find anything on the other names and getting even more confuesd just wish i could find the missing link .

Sarah

Sarah Report 6 Sep 2007 21:17

ozibird imnot sure will check it out. thank you.