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Hi LfW, keep me posted I would love to hear that we are related.
I know so little about my Sharpe relations as my Aunt Annie knows very little about them as she said there was little contact with the Sharpe side of the family. Which is why I was a bit at a loss.
Hope to hear from you soon.
Angie

I just re-read my reply and that I had missed out the word enough, cos I can't thank you enough for all the help, Gail you are a star and everyone else who gave me help you are great too,
Angie

Hi Gail, yes my grannie Annie was the daughter of Robert Henry Sharpe and Jessie rutherford and from that I got loads of stuff on the Rutherfords and Fanny Sedgwick etc so I can't thank you for your help.
I had some trouble finding the Thompsons in the 1851 census but that was because I was looking for them being married, I must have missed the Harriet Sharpe in the mass of boarders.
I was just looking at that smae marriage record and thinking the same as you have done,
Yes it is a lovely tree loads of skeletons in the cupboard, and we haven't even started on the Italians yet.
Your help has been great and you are so fast
Angie

On Free BMD there is a marriage for an Ann Sharp, Q4 1855, Goole Registration District....9c 719, and a man missing..

Firstly the actual image looks like

9c 72 5 or an 8

Also on the actual index (not freeBMD) for Q4 1855 there is a William Thompson, Goole Registration.
9c 72 5 or an 8

So Free BMD has a mistranscription and I think this is the marriage.

So Ann Sharpe mother of Robert Henry is actually William Thompsons step-daughter.

Gail.

1841 for the Sharps

Elizabeth Sharp
Age: 1
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1840
Where born: Yorkshire, England

Civil Parish: Snaith
Hundred: Osgoldcross (Lower Division)
County/Island: Yorkshire
Registration district: Goole
Sub-registration district: Snaith

Ann Sharp 28
Elizabeth Sharp 1
William Sharp 30 Blacksmith

HO107; Piece 1307; Book: 19; Civil Parish: Snaith; County: Yorkshire; Enumeration District: 1A; Folio: 17; Page: 28; Line: 22; GSU roll: 464266.

Next door is a George Sharp and a Robert Sharp, both 15 and Blacksmith Apprentices.

Gail

1861 for Ann Sharpe? - Robert Henry's Mum (in Doncaster)

Ann Sharpe
Age: 19
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1842
Relation: Niece
Where born: Snaith, Yorkshire, England

Civil Parish: Doncaster
Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch
County/Island: Yorkshire

Registration district: Doncaster
Sub-registration district: Doncaster

Nathan Newby 63 Boarder born Doncaster
Ann Sharpe 19
Rebecca Tomlinson 52 Unnmarried Head born Pollington

Source Citation: Class: RG9; Piece: 3518; Folio: 100; Page: 14; GSU roll: 543145.

Gail.

1851 for Harriet?

Harriet Sharp
Age: 3
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1848
Relation: Daughter
Mother's Name: Ann
Where born: Snaith, Yorkshire, England

Civil Parish: Snaith
Town: Snaith
County/Island: Yorkshire

Registration district: Goole
Sub-registration district: Swinefleet


Ann Sharp 36 Widow, Pauper, (Blacksmiths wife) born Yorkshire Pollington
Ann Sharp 9 Daughter born Snaith
Elizabeth Sharp 11 Daughter born Snaith
Harriet Sharp 3 Daughter born Snaith
Mary Sharp 7 Daughter born Snaith
Rebecca Sharp 9 Daughter born Snaith

Lodgers...

Thomas Brown 32
Robert Fenderson 45
Jacob Kendall 30
James Rolfe 30
Margaret Rolfe 22

Class: HO107; Piece: 2350; Folio: 392; Page: 1; GSU roll: 87610.

Gail.

Hi Angie

On the 1861 there is a Harriet Sharpe daughter in Law with the Thompsons...

William Thompson who is the grandfather on the 1871 - 1871 says born Snaith.

1861

William Thompson
Age: 40
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1821
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Ann
Where born: Cowick, Yorkshire,

Civil Parish: Snaith
Town: Snaith
County/Island: Yorkshire

Registration district: Goole
Sub-registration district: Snaith

Elizabeth Tall 21 Daughter, Married
Selina Tall 6 Mo Granddaughter.
Ann Thompson 44 Wife, born Pollington
William Thompson 40 Head, Lab and Lodging House Keeper
........................Harriet Sharp 13 Daughter in Law

Boarders....

Hannah Harrison 37
Thomas Harrison 36
Thomas Harrison 13
Levi Harvey 36
Samuel Hayes 45
Joseph McNulty 23
Francis Midgley 33
William Armstrong 24

Class: RG9; Piece: 3530; Folio: 11; Page: 17; GSU roll: 543147.

Gail

Hi Angie

Just to recap firstly, did Annie's birth certificate confirm the parents as Henry Sharpe and Jesse Rutherford when it arrived.

We do love your family tree Angie........lol

Gail.

Hi folks, here is an update on my Robert Henry Sharpe and again they just love to confuse me. I sent for his birth certificate to see who his father is, I assumed that his mother's name was going to be Thompson as he was living with his grandparents in 1871 William and Ann Thompson, but true to form his mothers name is Ann Sharpe and there is no father given. So confusion reigns again. Any ideas?
Angie

Angela

You are very welcome, interesting to hear about the scottish and irish connections.....you are going to have fun.............

Genuki says this about Newlay

NEWLAY, a hamlet partly in the parish of Guiseley, upper division of Skyrack wapentake, and partly in the chapelry of Bramley and parish of Leeds, West Riding county York, 5 miles W. by N. of Leeds. It is situated in the valley of the river Aire,

Gail. x

Gail, I have now been able to go back and I found the Scottish bit, Jessie Rutherford was the daughter of James William Rutherford born in York who was the son of a Samuel Rutherford of Kirkcudbrightshire, I have found him in the 1841 census living with lots of siblings but no parents aged 16. The only adult in the house was born in Ireland so maybe that was were the Irish connection is.
I believe we have an Irish connection in my great grandmother Annie Idle nee Murphy. h\owever the 1901 census has her born in 'Newlay' Yorks which as far as I know does not exsist. I cannot find her in the 1891 census, so confused. But now I have got my Sharpes I am so very greartful to you all without you I would never have been able to get them sorted.
I can't thank you enough.
Angie

Hi Angela

Sorry, somehow missed your reply. Thank you for letting us know the outcome of your conversation with your Aunt, well I wonder where the Irish bit came in, maybe you will find that further back down the line.

Good luck with the rest of the research.

Gail. x

Gail, I phoned my aunt and although she was surprised to hear that her grandfather was called Robert Henry rather than just Henry she confirmed that Jessie was a Rutherford, it would have helped if she had been a little more precise with her information but she is a love and has been really helpful.
Your help has been really great, thank you very much.
Angie

A birth registration

Fanny Sharpe
Year of Registration: 1912
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
Mother's Maiden Name: Rutherford
District: Pontefract
County: Yorkshire - West Riding, West Yorkshire
Volume: 9c
Page: 314

Gail. x

Hi Angela

That sounds quite promising then, He is calling himself just Henry on the 1891 so even though it was his middle name he maybe was known by that rather than his first name.

Look forward to hearing the outcome..

Gail. x

1891 for a Jessie Rutherford - A lot of the family names here are repeated in your first post for the children...

Kingston? Road

Jessie Rutherford
Age: 15
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1876
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: James William
Mother's Name: Fanny
Where born: Durham, England

Civil Parish: Selby
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary and St Germain
Town: Selby
County/Island: Yorkshire

Registration district: Selby
Sub-registration district: Selby

Fanny Rutherford 40
Florence J Rutherford 5
George H Rutherford 17
James D Rutherford 12
James William Rutherford 42 Railway Signalman
Jessie Rutherford 15
John Wm Rutherford 11
Joseph Alex Rutherford 8
Mabel G Rutherford 2
Samuel Rutherford 14
Sidney H Rutherford 3/12
Walter S Rutherford 7

RG12; Piece: 3876; Folio 68; Page 8; GSU roll: 6098986.

Gail. x

Gail, I was at a family do on Saturday and she was confusing me but one of the things that I do remember was that she said that there were some 'Rutherford' aunts and uncles. So you are a star, but she has always said my great grandfather was Henry which is why I had been looking for him under that name. I will phone her tomorrow and let you know what she says.
Thank you very very much for your help.

On the 1891 he is calling himself by his second name Henry and he is a Blacksmith

1891

Ledstone Station Cottages

Henry Sharpe
Age: 23
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1868
Relation: Boarder
Where born: Doncaster, Yorkshire, England

Civil Parish: Allerton Bywater
Ecclesiastical parish: Allerton Bywater
Town: Allerton Bywater

Registration district: Tadcaster
Sub-registration district: Aberford

Henry Sharpe 23 Boarder, Blacksmith
Frank Shepherd 27
Sarah Shepherd 25

Class: RG12; Piece: 3879; Folio 42; Page 33; GSU roll: 6098989.

Gail. x

Seems to be the marriage of the above

Robert Henry Sharpe
Year of Registration: 1893
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
District: Goole
County: Humberside, Lincolnshire, Yorkshire - West Riding
Volume: 9c
Page: 822

Others on Page - Jesse Rutherford.

So not really the right area.......

Gail. x