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hi has anyone heard of timothy and sarah hunt richmond cottages cheltenham,i found them in 1901 census think they are my relatives,thanks

Paula

Good luck!

Angela

Hi Thomas and Angela

That info about Hubert being listed as Bertie is fab. I think I am going to have to order a few birth, death and marriage certificates!

I will talk to Nana and see if anything rings a bell. There was a stigma to being an unmarried mum and being 91 she may prefer not to remember - I will try though.

You have all been amazing!

Paula

This is interesting (but probably purely co-incidental). Here are Thomas Hunt & Mary Ann in 1901, with a nurse child, born in KENSINGTON:

John T Hunt
Age: 79
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1822
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Mary W
Gender: Male
Where born: Milksom, Wiltshire, England

Civil Parish: Cobham
Ecclesiastical parish: St Andrew
County/Island: Surrey
Country: England

Registration district: Epsom
Sub-registration district: Leatherhead
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 134
Household Members: Name Age
John T Hunt 79
Mary W Hunt 60
Susie M Hunt 19
Cecil J Stone 6 months

The Emily Ada Hunt death in Epsom I found yesterday would be the right age to fit in with the census info. It might be worth getting that death certificate to see if the name of the informant holds a clue?

btw, interestingly, the occupation of this particular Emily Hunt's father, Thomas was given as farm labourer in one of the censuses I looked at. If I remember rightly, Hubert gave his father's occupation as farmer?

Angela

Hi Angela.It is difficult.We can only give it our best shot.It may lead to something...who know's.
Tom.

Well done Tom, I'd say there's a fair chance that's Hubert in 1891.

I don't know why I didn't see this Emily A Hunt in 1891before:

Emily A Hunt
Age: 25
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1866
Relation: Servant
Gender: Female
Where born: Woking, Surrey, England

Civil Parish: Kensington
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary Abbotts
County/Island: London
Country: England

Registration district: Kensington
Sub-registration district: Kensington Town
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
George Chester 77
Mary Chester 70
Jane Govier 40
Elizabeth Higgs 17
Emily A Hunt 25
Amy C Toms 16
Ethel L Toms 21
Helen A Toms 45
Thomas H L Toms 45

Emily is a cook.

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Following her back through the censuses - 1881:

Emily Hunt
Age: 16
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1865
Relation: Inmate
Gender: Female
Where born: Woking

Civil Parish: St Anne Soho
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street address: St John Baptist Mission Home Rose St
Education:

Employment status: View Image
Occupation: Industrial Girl

Registration district: Westminster
Sub-registration district: St Anne Soho

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1871:

Emily Ada Hunt
Age: 5
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1866
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Thomas
Mother's Name: Mary Ann
Gender: Female
Where born: Working, Surrey, England

Civil Parish: Cobham
Ecclesiastical parish: Cobham
County/Island: Surrey
Country: England

Registration district: Epsom
Sub-registration district: Leatherhead
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 16
Household Members: Name Age
Edith Jane Hunt 3
Emily Ada Hunt 5
Mary Ann Hunt 39
Thomas Hunt 40
Thomas Alfred Hunt 1

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Birth reg:

Births Sep 1865 (>99%)
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Hunt Emily Ada Guildford 2a 39


HOWEVER, I don't know how it can be proved whether or not this is the right one :-((

Angela

Hi Paula.Based on the information you've received to date.....Here are my finding's.

In the 1891 census there's a Bertie Hunt born c 1887,Kensington,London as the adopted son of a

John "Honnslow" born 1824,Margate,Kent[Bath Chair Proprieter] and wife Sarah.

The relevance is that "Bertie" is a short form for Hubert ,the age is approx the same and they lived at 1,NORTH ROW.Not very far from 6,North Row ?

In the 1901 census John "Hounslow"is still living at 1,North Row.....no Bertie!....He's in the "Boy's Brigade".

I've found nothing on his mother for 1891.At a Guess with the census info available...I think she married in 1892 to Albert Walter Sheldon,Q3,1a,996.

In the 1901 census.

Walter Sheldon born c 1867,Brentwood
Ada [wife] born c 1870,Kensington,London,with children...

William 1891,Camberwell
Albert 1893,Camberwell
Frederick 1897,Camberwell.

It could be the case that Hubert's mother had no alternative but to give him up for adoption or that, the Adoptee's,could have been his Grandparent's!!

Something for you to think about.

Regard's,Tom.

Oh rats !!

I guess it will be like looking for a needle in a haystack. Maybe that is why so little about the family is known. Nana did say Hubert did not have the best of childhoods - maybe this is why.

Thanks to everyone for all their digging. Please feel free to investigate any bright ideas you get !!

Paula

No proof of parentage/age is required on marriage certs. They could say what they liked!
Angela

On marriage certificates did you have to prove who was father? Was the word of the groom or bride enough?

Hi Paula/Selena

I couldn't find Hubert or Emily on the 1891, I tried various combinations - neither could I find a likely Hubert in 1891 to match the one I found in 1901 at the Boys Brigade place, although the only one born in the right sort of area on FreeBMD is the one for which Paula has the birth cert.

Trouble is, unless we can find them together, we have no way of knowing which is the right Emily Hunt.

I'm wondering about this death:


Deaths Jun 1897 (>99%)
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Hunt Emily Ada 32 Epsom 2a 24






Angela

Please can anyone find Emily and her son Hubert together on the 1891?

Selena

Perhaps because Hubert didn't know who his father was he just used his mother's father's name.

Selena

this one in kensington

Name: Emily Hunt
Age: 22
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1859
Relation: Servant
Gender: Female
Where born: Bath, Somerset, England

Civil Parish: Paddington
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street address: 71 Elgin Road
Education:

Employment status: Subscribe now to see this information.
Occupation: Domestic Servant (Cook)

Registration district: Kensington
Sub-registration district: St Mary Paddington
ED, institution, or vessel: 28a
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Sophia Cook 67
Emily Hunt 22
Emily Lambert 29
Charles A. Purvis 61
Edward A. Purvis 24
Jane L. Purvis

oops missed a bitEmily Ada Hunt Pedigree
Female


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Event(s):
Birth: 20 FEB 1865 <St Philip &Jacob, Bristol, Gloucester,
Father: John Hunt Family
Mother: Prudance

I had not thought that Hubert Albert may have been the grandfather - hmmm!

Were children put into the Boys Brigade house as they were illigitimate?

Is there a way to cut down the possible Emily Ada Hunt's?

Found these on IGI

Emily Ada Hunt

Birth: 20 FEB 1865

Father: John Hunt
Mother: Prudance


Emily Ada Hunt Pedigree

Birth:
Christening: 27 JAN 1866 Bedminster, Somerset, :
Father: William Hunt Family
Mother: Fanny Hunt

Just a possible for 1881 but no way of knowing when Emily Ada was born :(

Household: Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability
Emily HUNT Head W Female 38 Lambeth, Middlesex, England Annuitant
Emily HUNT Daur U Female 16 St Pancras, Middlesex, England
Ada HUNT Daur U Female 13 St Pancras, Middlesex, England Scholar
Louisa GREENWOOD Sister U Female 23 Lambeth, Middlesex, England
Eliza SAVILL Niece U Female 20 Plumstead, Kent, England
Source Information: Dwelling 167 Gloucester Rd
Census Place London, Middlesex, England
Family History Library Film 1341040
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 0183 / 90
Page Number 19

Hi Paula,
Another possibility is that Emily married and she and Hubert are listed on the censuses under her new husbands name, I have found this happened quite a lot. Have you checked for marriages for Emily??
Sandra