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William Young 1851 census lookup

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Carolyn

Carolyn Report 20 Nov 2007 22:28

Need help finding a William Young, he is the father of George Young who was born 1857/8 Somerset. William appears on Georges marriage certificate occupation 'Druggist' 1883 it does not say on the certificate that he was deceased at this time. The only William I can find is a William Francis Young born 1829 Somerset occupation 'Porter' died 1860.
Can anyone help please.
Regards Carolyn

Jim The Ferret

Jim The Ferret Report 20 Nov 2007 22:33

Do you know the birthpalce of George. Several possible births

Jim

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 20 Nov 2007 22:33

Where in Somerset was George born?

Reg

Carolyn

Carolyn Report 20 Nov 2007 22:34

He was born in Bath.
Carolyn

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 20 Nov 2007 22:47

I guess I followed the same route that you did. I found George born 1858 Bath on the 61 census but his mother Ellen was widowed. Looked for her on the 1851 census to find her husband and it was William Francis, the porter.

Jim The Ferret

Jim The Ferret Report 20 Nov 2007 22:51

Having looked at the 1851 image, I think it might say Doctor rather than Porter.

Marriage
Surname First name(s) District Vol Page

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Marriages Dec 1848 (>99%)
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Bush Ellen Bath 11 4
Young William Francis Bath 11 4

Deaths Dec 1860 (>99%)
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Young William Bedminster 5c 481
Young William Francis Bath 5c 427

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 20 Nov 2007 22:56

I disagree, Jim, it's definitely porter. Compare the first letter with the D in daughter. Besides they didn't use the term doctor in those days, it was either physician or surgeon.

Carolyn

Carolyn Report 20 Nov 2007 22:59

Jim, I have a copy of the marriage certificate between William and Ellen and his profession is definately 'Porter'
Regards Carolyn

Jim The Ferret

Jim The Ferret Report 20 Nov 2007 23:09

Does the marriage cert of George say that William is deceased?

Jim The Ferret

Jim The Ferret Report 20 Nov 2007 23:10

No "druggist" named Young in Bath Directory of 1852

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 20 Nov 2007 23:14

Carolyn, when did George marry and where is he in 1881. I can't see one born Bath on the census.
Margaret

Carolyn

Carolyn Report 20 Nov 2007 23:28

Not sure where George was in 1881 but he married in 1883 and his address is 94 York Street Westminster London / County of Middlesex. William is not deceased on the marriage certificate.

Carolyn

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 20 Nov 2007 23:36

Is this him in 1891?
Coast G. Station, Herne, Kent
George E. Young, head, 33, coast guard, born Bath, Somerset
Elizabeth, wife, 28, born Watton, Essex
Ellen, dau, 3, born London, Westminster
William, son, 2, born Herne Bay, Kent

Carolyn

Carolyn Report 20 Nov 2007 23:43

Yes this is George but I can't find his father William. I don't know if he continued living in Somerset or moved when George did.

Carolyn

Ozibird

Ozibird Report 20 Nov 2007 23:49

Births Dec 1857
Young George Ernest Bath 5c 656

Carolyn

Carolyn Report 20 Nov 2007 23:53

Yes this is correct for George but can't find his father William.

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 21 Nov 2007 00:12

I still think this is your George in 1861 and his father had already died.
Bathwick, Bath, Somersetshire
Ellen Young, head, widow, 32, chapel keeper, born Wilts, Bradford
Elizabeth, dau, 11
Ellen, dau, 5
George, son, 3
William, son, 1
George Bush, brother, married, 34 railway contractor, born Wilts, Bradford
Chidren all born Bath.

This makes Ellen's maiden name Bush and it was Ellen Bush who married William Francis Young.
And William Francis Young died Dec. Q 1860, Bath.

Carolyn

Carolyn Report 21 Nov 2007 00:18

Yes this is what I thought but what has confused me is that Williams occupation on his marriage certificate is Porter and on his sons (George) marriage certificate his occupation is a druggist.

Carolyn

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 21 Nov 2007 00:22

I believe Ellen Young then married Peter Germain June Q 1866, Bath.
1871 census
12 Beechew Cliff, Lyncombe & Widcombe, Bath, Somerset
Peter A. Germain, head, 32, porter, born Falmouth, Cornwall
Ellen, wife, 41. laundress
Francis, son, 4, scholar
Albert, son, 2, scholar
Edwin, son, 1
Ellen Young,dau, 15, laundress
George Young, son, 13, errand boy
William Young, son, 11, scholar
Ellen and children all born Bath.

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 21 Nov 2007 00:29

I believe that George just didn't know what his father's occupation was, he was so young when he died.
Curiously though there is a William Young on the 81 census who is a druggist and he was born Bath. I thought at first it might be George's brother but he was born 1842, too old to be his brother, too young to be his father!
Didn't they like to make it complicated for us?
Margaret