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Hi Can anyone look up my gg grandmother
Jane Pringle abt 1825 Lesbury, Northumberland.
i have had a look myself but i cant see her
many thanks
Val

Do you know where and when she married? was she married by 51 ?

hi Minnie,

She married my gg grandfather Robert Cowan/s
between 1851-1856 which i believe her first child was born
he was born in Newcastle -upo Tyne in 1856
thanks Val

cant see that marriage either!

got them in 1861

Sarah Ather 13
Jane Cowans 33
Jane Cowans 2 Mo
John Cowans 5
Robert Cowans 33
Robert Cowans 2
Thomas Cowans 4



Civil Parish: South Bedburn
Ecclesiastical parish: Hamsterley
County/Island: Durham
Country: England

I Cant find it either!

thats them i can find them after 1861 i just cant find them before very puzzling!!!! i think

have you got anyone's birth cert - how do you know her name was Pringle?

yeah i have 3 birth certs 1st is for my g grandfather & his 2 brother's

Just posting 1881 with an alternative place of birth for Jane:

Name: Jane Cowans
Age: 55
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1826
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Robert
Gender: Female
Where born: Bilton, Northumberland, England

Civil Parish: Heworth
County/Island: Durham
Country: England

Street address: 11 Railway Row
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Gateshead
Sub-registration district: Heworth
ED, institution, or vessel: 8a
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Jane Cowans 55
Jane Cowans 20
John Cowans 25
Robert Cowans 54
Robert Cowans 22
Thomas Cowans 23
William Cowans 16

- and a third alternative from 1871:

Name: Jane Cowans
Age: 44
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1827
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Robert
Gender: Female
Where born: Chester, Northumberland, England

Civil Parish: Witton Gilbert
Ecclesiastical parish: Sacriston St Peter
Town: Sacriston
County/Island: Durham
Country: England

Registration district: Chester Le Street
Sub-registration district: Chester le Street
ED, institution, or vessel: 16

Household schedule number: 164
Household Members:
Name Age
Jane Cowans 44
Jane Cowans 9
John Cowans 15
Robert Cowans 43
Robert Cowans 12
Thomas Cowans 14
William Cowans 6

(As an aside, I see Robert may well be in Scotland in 1851 - see Parish: Hownam; ED: 1; Line: 6; Year: 1851- but Jane is not in that household)

The 1861 and the 1871 census returns both show two Robert Cowans born in Northumberland - this is the marriage of the other Robert:

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Marriages Jun 1855 (>99%)
COWANS Robert Rothbury 10b 494
MILBURN Eleanor Rothbury 10b 494

Although Sarah Arter is shown as boarder on the 1861 census, she may be Jane's child from a previous marriage.

Free BMD has this marriage (amongst others) for a Jane Pringle:

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Marriages Sep 1844 (>99%)
ARTHUR Thomas Newcastle T 25 269 <<<<<< ??
CARSON William Newcastle Te 25 269
DOUGLAS Margaret Newcastle Tyne 25 269
HUMPHREY John Halstead Newcastle Te 25 269
McCLENNELL Mary Ann Newcastle T 25 269
NICHOLSON Elizabeth Newtle Tyne 25 269
PRINGLE Jane Newtle Tyne 25 269
SKELTON Thomas Newcastle T 25 269

Looking for deaths of Thomas Art* between 1844 and 1851, the 50 or so listed for England and Wales are mainly in Southern England. Discounting some Lancashire and Yorkshire ones, there is a death in Gateshead in the Sep qtr 1849 of Thomas Arthur.

Bilton and Lesbury are small villages either side of the river, between Alnwick and Alnmouth. However, looking for Jane born approx 1827 in Alnwick brought up only a servant (a nurse, and a widow, according to the image):

Name: Jane Athey
Age: 25
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1826
Relation: Servant
Gender: Female
Where born: Alnwick, Northumberland, England

Civil Parish: Jesmond
Ecclesiastical parish: St Andrew
County/Island: Northumberland
Country: England

Registration district: Newcastle Upon Tyne
Sub-registration district: Byker
ED, institution, or vessel: 4b

Household schedule number: 242
Household Members:
Name Age
Jane Athey 25 <<<<<< ?? (suspect not)
Rachael Elliott 16
Mary Ogle 31
Mary J Ogle 3
Robert Ogle 33
Robert B E Ogle 7 Mo
Jane Ormston 32

(Edited - the posting on the next page is much more likely)

OK, I think I have it now (apologies, rather went all round the houses on this one!)

Name: Sarah Alther
Age: 4
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1847
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Thomas
Mother's Name: Margaret
Gender: Female
Where born: Newcastle, Northumberland, England

Civil Parish: Newcastle Upon Tyne All Saints
Town: Newcastle Upon Tyne
County/Island: Northumberland
Country: England

Registration district: Newcastle Upon Tyne
Sub-registration district: All Saints
ED, institution, or vessel: 8

Household schedule number: 204
Household Members:
Name Age
Jane Alther 29
Sarah Alther 4
Margaret Pringle 51
Thomas Pringle 56

Actually, the transcription above does not do justice to this household:

on the image, in order, they are:

Thomas Pringle, Head, Widr*, 56 (Occupation Cartman's Wife - as ditto from the previous household)
Margaret Pringle, Wife*, Mar 51
Jane Ather, Sister, Mar, 29
Sarah Ather, Daur, U, 4
George Pringle, Son of Head, U, 14
William Pringle, Son of Head, U, 20
Mary Lowan, Visitor, Mar, 28
John M(..)ers, Visitor, U, 20

*I'm not sure how the widower/wife entries stack up for Thomas and Margaret

Lowan looks an odd name to me. There are just 4 instances on the 1851 England census, so could it be an mistranscription by the enumerator for Cowan(s)?

OK, going back to 1841 -

there are 7 instances of Jane Pringle in Northumberland in 1841:

b 1821 at Earsdon (prob unlikely since ages are rounded down)

b 1826 in Northumberland:
Bamburgh, Morpeth and Tynemouth entries

b 1826 but not in Northumberland (can prob therefore discount this one)

b 1830 Warkworth
b 1831 Alnwick
(these two are possible, but at ages 11 and 10, they look too young).

I think I'll have to leave it for now.

None of the three Bamburgh/Morpeth/Tynemouth entries appear to fit with the 1851 census entry above.

You may have to widen the search for different spellings, and cross-check against the others on the 1851 census, which whilst possible, could be a little lengthy. I hope you do strike lucky soon.

All the best

Wow Ivy Thank you so much
i have struggled with my gg grandparents for ages
but you are brilliant i will do a lengthy search of the 1851 census to find Jane
many thanks
Val