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I think i might have messed up on my tree and wondered if any one could trace family for this person:
Percy Edward Holderness born 1883 Lambeth cert 1d 554 1st Qtr
Died 30 July 1915 - vol 1.78 page 342
Married - Staines 4th Qtr 1912 cert 3a 21 to Alice Maude Hammond.
This much i know is correct.
But i think i have the wrong siblings and parents for Percy.
Would anyone be kind enough to check the census for me please.
Much appericated
Samantha

1891
Percy E Holderness
Age: 8
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1883
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Robert E
Mother's Name: Hannah
Gender: Male
Where born: Hernehill (Hernhill), Surrey, England

Civil Parish: Lambeth
Ecclesiastical parish: Stockwell St Andrews
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Lambeth
Sub-registration district: Brixton
ED, institution, or vessel: 13a
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Elsie M Holderness 10
Hannah Holderness 40
Mabel K Holderness 18
Percy E Holderness 8
Robert E Holderness 43

Is this him?

Libby

1901 England Census
about Percy Ed Holderness
Name: Percy Ed Holderness
Age: 18
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1883
Relation: Son
Mother's Name: Hannah
Gender: Male
Where born: Hernehill, London, England

Civil Parish: Lambeth
Ecclesiastical parish: St Matthew Brixton
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Lambeth
Sub-registration district: Brixton
ED, institution, or vessel: 41
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 93
Household Members: Name Age
Elsie M Holderness 20
Hannah Holderness 50
Percy Ed Holderness 18

Hi Libby
This is the one i have on my tree, but i had an e-mail the other day from the grandson of Percy and he gave me different names so i started to worry that i had got it wrong, looks like i have not though.
Could i ask a favour from you, could you look up and see if either of the sisters married a Charles Hammond for me please if they did then we know its the correct family.
Only if its not to much trouble
Thanks
Samantha

Maybe this

Marriages Jun 1919

Hammond Charles J Holderness Hendon 3a 872
Holderness Mary Ha___nt Hendon 3a 872

Hi Alan
What a star you are, this is the one so i do have the corret family thank god.
Charles James Hammond married Elise Mary Holderness,
Brother and sister married brother and sister most confusing and we thought todays standards were bad.
Nothings really changed has it? just kept quiet back in those days.
Thanks very much
Samantha

Would anyone be able to trace this family back any futher as i cannot get pass Percy's parents.
Any help most greatful
Samantha

1851 England Census
about Robert Edward Holderness
Name: Robert Edward Holderness
Age: 5
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1846
Relation: Son
Father's Name: James
Mother's Name: Sarah
Gender: Male
Where born: Leeds, Yorkshire, England

Civil Parish: Chapel Allerton
Ecclesiastical parish: Meanwood
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image

Registration district: Hunslet
Sub-registration district: Chapeltown
ED, institution, or vessel: 2a
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 107
Household Members: Name Age
James Holderness 42
James Holderness 7
Robert Edward Holderness 5
Sarah Holderness 41
Sarah Ann Holderness 11


Libby

1861 England Census
about Robert E Holderness
Name: Robert E Holderness
Age: 12
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1849
Relation: Son
Father's Name: James F
Mother's Name: Sarah
Gender: Male
Where born: Leeds, Yorkshire, England

Civil Parish: Leeds
Ecclesiastical parish: St Michael
Town: Leeds
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View Image

Registration district: Leeds
Sub-registration district: West Leeds
ED, institution, or vessel: 20
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 116
Household Members: Name Age
James Holderness 17
James F Holderness 50
Robert E Holderness 12
Sarah Holderness 50
Sarah A Holderness 21


Libby

Hi Guys
This is them, do we know what Sarah's maiden name was and can we get back any futher

Thanks
Samantha

Have a feel this is James and Sarah's marriage

Marriages Dec 1838 (>99%)
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DYBLE Sarah Greenwich 5 335
Holderness James Greenwich 5 335
NIGHTINGALE David Greenwich 5 335
PAYNE Ann Amelia Greenwich 5 335

Libby

Hi Libby
You got it, my dads cousin metioned something about a Sarah Dyble but said he was not sure if that was her maiden name well hey now we know it is, just need to go back futher

Samantha

I have found James and Sarah with their daughter Sarah in 1841 in Royal House Artillery at Woolwich Dock. James is a Gunner'

Libby

JAMES FREDK. HOLDERNESS Pedigree
Male


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Event(s):
Birth:
Christening: 11 OCT 1807 Saint Paul, Deptford, London,


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Parents:
Father: ROBT. HOLDERNESS Family
Mother: MARY


This looks like this is James parents.
Will have a look for more on them.

Libby

Sorry can't seem to find Robert's and Mary's marriage.

Libby

Hi Libby
Is it possible that they did marry?
James a gunner trying to think what/which war that would have been, sorry history not one of my best im afraid
Thanks
Samantha

Royal Hospital Chelsea: Soldiers Service Documents WO 97/1236/176
JAMES HOLDERNESS Born DEPTFORD, Kent Served in Royal Artillery Discharged aged 39 . JAMES HOLDERNESS Born DEPTFORD, Kent Served in Royal Artillery Discharged aged 39 Royal Artillery: High - Hov The National Archives, Kew
Date range: 1828 - 1849.

Found this on national archives sounds very much like him. As on the 1851 census James is an army pensioner.

Libby

Libby your the best, how on earth do you manage to find all of this i would'nt even know where to begin.
So does this mean with this info i can now search for his army records?

Samantha

I'm not to clued up on these army records, have a look on the National Archives web site.

I'm stilling searching through it as well.

Libby

Wow so much gained in an afternoon

Thank you all for your help

Happy New Year

Samantha