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I have a Thomas Fields b. Sept 1865 Scarborough who married Annie Hatton March 1885 Scarborough. I have them both on 1891 census with children Thomas 8, and Elizabeth 5. They had another son Bryan reg. June 1891. By Mar 1892 Thomas had died aged 27. Thomas was a Fireman for NE Railways.

This is the only information I have on them. I was hoping to go back to 1881/1871 census to establish both Thomas and Annie's parents, but this is where I have come upstuck.

All I can find is:

1881 census: 26 Cooks Row, Scarborough

John Tate - age 40 - Fishmonger - b. Scarborough
Mary Tate - age 49 - wife - b. Scarborough
Mary J. Hatton - age 23 - daughter b. Hull
Annie M. Hatton - age 17 - b. Scarborough Servant

I am assuming from this that Mary, Annie's mother, was widowed and remarried which of course doesn't help me find her father.

As for Thomas b. 1865 Scarborough, I cannot locate him on 1881 when he would have been 15/16 and hopefully living with parents whose names I really need to find.

Could anyone trace either of these for me or spot a lead which would help as I have spent ages looking but have not come up with anything.

Thank you.

SORRY - Annie's mother in above information should read NANCY.

This looks like Thomas in 1881 (bear in mind that "son-in-law" in those days also meant "stepson"):

1881 England Census
about Matthew Wright
Name: Matthew Wright
Age: 42
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1839
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Alice
Gender: Male
Where born: Brompton, Yorkshire, England

Civil Parish: Scarborough
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street address: 12 Roscoe Street
Condition as to marriage: Married
Occupation: Railway Signalman

Registration district: Scarborough
Sub-registration district: Scarborough
ED, institution, or vessel: 5b
Neighbors: View others on page

Household Members:
Name Age
Matthew Wright 42, head
Alice Wright 42, wife
>> Thomas Fields 15, son-in-law, engine cleaner, born Scarborugh
Aaron Wright 15, son
Elizabeth Fields 13, daughter-in-law
Harry Wright 1, son
John W. Young 15, lodger

The marriage cert would give you both their fathers' names. How do you know Annie's mother's name was Mary?

1871 England Census
about Thomas Fields
Name: Thomas Fields
Age: 5
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1866
Relation: Son
Mother's Name: Alice
Gender: Male
Where born: Scarborough, Yorkshire, England

Civil Parish: Falsgrave
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image

Registration district: Scarborough
Sub-registration district: Scarborough
ED, institution, or vessel: 20
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 237a
Household Members: Name Age
Alice Fields 31 WIDOW
Elizabeth Fields 3
Thomas Fields 5

Source Citation: Class: RG10; Piece: 4818; Folio: 87; Page: 46

Thank you everyone, you are absolutely brilliant.

I don't KNOW the name of Annie's mother but was going on the info I had actually found on 1881 census, as above and it looks like NANCY. I am sorry I was looking in the wrong place when I typed out my original request. To reiterate, the info on 1881 census re Annie Hatton is all I have.

Thank you everyone.

FreeBMD doesn't seem to be working at the moment, so it's hard to find the marriages.

The only marriage for a Matthew Wright to an Alice I can seen on Ancestry at about the right time and place is a marriage in Scarborough in 1878 to an Alice Baley.

Thomas' parents in 1861 (Alice's birthplace is same as 1871)
1861 census
6 Lancaster St., Scarborough, Yorkshire
Bryan Fields, head, 22, bricklayer, born Yorks, Humnanby
Alice, wife, 21, born Yorks, Galthorpe
Ann, dau, 1 month, born Sacarborough

hi margaret.
have found this hope it helps.
brian fields married alice horseman 1859, 3rd quater.
dis-scarborough.vol-96.page-475.c-yorkshire.
gwen xx

Thank you Mary. I wonder if she was a Baley before she married a Fields and married a second time in her maiden name? I suppose that's a possibility.

Elizabeth Carrol 1859 Jul-Aug-Sep Scarborough Yorkshire - East Riding, Yorkshire - North Riding, North Yorkshire

Brian Fields 1859 Jul-Aug-Sep Scarborough Yorkshire - East Riding, Yorkshire - North Riding, North Yorkshire

>>>Bryan Fields 1859 Jul-Aug-Sep Scarborough Yorkshire - East Riding, Yorkshire - North Riding, North Yorkshire

>>> Alice Horsman 1859 Jul-Aug-Sep Scarborough Yorkshire - East Riding, Yorkshire - North Riding, North Yorkshire

Matth MacGorran 1859 Jul-Aug-Sep Scarborough Yorkshire - East Riding, Yorkshire - North Riding, North Yorkshire

Matthew MacGorran 1859 Jul-Aug-Sep Scarborough Yorkshire - East Riding, Yorkshire - North Riding, North Yorkshire

1861 England Census
about Bryan Fields
Name: Bryan Fields
Age: 22
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1839
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Alice
Gender: Male
Where born: Hunmanby, Yorkshire, England

Civil Parish: Scarborough
Town: Scarborough
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View Image

Registration district: Scarborough
Sub-registration district: Scarborough
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 189
Household Members: Name Age
Alice Fields 31
Ann Fields 1 Mo
Bryan Fields 22

Gosh Gwen and Margaret - what really wonderful information. Thank you both so much.

Claire - thank you too. I feel now I maybe able to progress with at least one side of this family. Thank you all again.

England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index: 1837-1983
about Bryan Field
Name: Bryan Field
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1839
Year of Registration: 1867
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
Age at Death: 28
District: Bridlington (1837-1937)
County: Yorkshire - East Riding
Volume: 9d
Page: 203 (click to see others on page)

That poor lady must havce been expecting Elizabeth when Bryan died

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index: 1837-1983
about Elizabeth Fields
Name: Elizabeth Fields
Year of Registration: 1867
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
District: Scarborough
County: Yorkshire - East Riding, Yorkshire - North Riding, North Yorkshire
Volume: 9d
Page: 301 (click to see others on page)

hi again.
1851 census/HO107/2367 F/160 P/23
1861 CENSUS- RG9/3618 F/19 P/32
will keep looking for you.
gwen xx

Claire and Mary - your hard work is much appreciated. Thank you both. I have something to get my teeth into now.

Looks like Alice married twice after Bryan.
Free BMD: Alice Fields married David Bailey 1875, Scarborough. (9d 736)
Alice Baley married Matthew Wright, Scarborough, 1878. (9d 640)

Good heavens, she was unlucky with her husbands, wasn't she!

Name: David Bailey
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1845
Year of Registration: 1876
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
Age at Death: 31
District: Scarborough
County: Yorkshire - East Riding, Yorkshire - North Riding, North Yorkshire
Volume: 9d
Page: 242