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trying to find percy wright birth details so i can order a certificate on the 1911 cencus he was living at 1 canal terrace where my grandfather was born,along with his other son percy junior,and mary wright nee murphy,it says percy was born in cambden town but i am getting no where can anyone shead some light on it please so i know if i have realy got the corect stuff and and do have percy and mary's married certificate.hitting abrick wall with the wright side of my family.cannot find my ggrandfather/ggrandmother.
percy wright .m. mary ann murphy st pancras london percy age 28yrs mary's age 32yrs marriage 1908 mary living 129 bayham street percy living 7 archer street.percy's father called Henry wright(deceased)mary's father called john murphy(deceased)witnesses called caroline murphy and percy powiday,pouiday,but on my grandfather's birth certificate percy is called percy charles wright.then on my grandfather marriage certificate his name is percy william frederick wright.can anyone help

I know you already have this but just putting it on for info

1911 census transcription details for: 1 Canal Terrace Camden Town N W

National Archive Reference:

RG14PN726 RG78PN25 RD9 SD3 ED15 SN63


Reg. District: St Pancras Sub District: East St Pancras
Parish: St Pancras Enum. District: 15

Address: 1 Canal Terrace Camden Town N W
County: London


Name Relation Condition/
Yrs married Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation Where Born

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WRIGHT, Percy Head Married
3 years M 32 1879 Stoker Dust Dent Camden Town London

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MURPHY, Lizzie Sister In Law Single F 23 1888 Servant General Daily Kings Cross London

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WRIGHT, Mary Ann Wife Married
3 years F 34 1877 Kings Cross London

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WRIGHT, Percy Son M 2 1909 Camden Town London

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WRIGHT, Johny Son M 0 1911 Camden Town London

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I dont wish this to look rude ,but I am going to break your post up into chunks so that it is easier to see the relevant details.



trying to find percy wright birth details so i can order a certificate
on the 1911 cencus he was living at 1 canal terrace where my grandfather was born,along with his other son percy junior,and mary wright nee murphy,
it says percy was born in camden town but i am getting no where
can anyone shead some light on it please so i know if i have realy got the corect stuff
and and do have percy and mary's married certificate.
hitting abrick wall with the wright side of my family.cannot find my ggrandfather/ggrandmother.
percy wright .m. mary ann murphy st pancras london percy age 28yrs mary's age 32yrs
marriage 1908
mary living 129 bayham street
percy living 7 archer street.
percy's father called Henry wright(deceased)
mary's father called john murphy(deceased)
witnesses called caroline murphy and percy powiday,pouiday,
but on my grandfather's birth certificate percy is called percy charles wright.
then on my grandfather marriage certificate his name is percy william frederick wright.
can anyone help

Marriages Sep 1908 (>99%)
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MURPHY Mary Ann Pancras 1b 213
WRIGHT Percy Pancras 1b 213

Does it give an occupation for Percys father on the marriage please?

For father Henry to Percy, born 1879, the censuses 1881, 1891, and 1901 all give Percy J Wright born in Chelsea, white lead manufacturer, employer, so unlikely.

Heres a Percy Powley and family at No 7 Archer street.
1901

POWLEY, Thomas Head Married M 50 1851 Groom
London
423 POWLEY, Ann Wife Married F 49 1852
Hertfordshire
423 POWLEY, Frederick Son Single M 15 1886 Shop Boy
London
423 POWLEY, Percival Son Single M 9 1892
London
423 POWLEY, Bertie Son Single M 7 1894
London
423 VINCE, Richard Boarder Single M 23 1878 Carman
London
423 WRIGHT, Frederick Boarder Single M 22 1879 Carman
London
423 BOWDEN, James Boarder Single M 29 1872 Printer
Scotland
RG number:
RG13 Piece:
147 Folio:
102 Page:
53

Registration District:
St Pancras Sub District:
Camden Town Enumeration District:
3 Ecclesiastical Parish:
Camden Town

Civil Parish:
St Pancras Municipal Borough:
Address:
7, Archer Street, St Pancras County:
London

'Deceased' fathers were often imaginary....................

Just what I was thinking Flick and he has not called either of his first 2 sons Henry.

I did find a Percy Wright born in Kensington with father Henry who was a carpenter on 1881.

These are his WW1 records.

Aged 33yrs and 235 days on 26th Oct 1914.

He is a Carman.

British Army WWI Service Records, 1914-1920 about Percy Wright
Name: Percy Wright
Estimated birth year: abt 1881
Age at Enlistment: 33
Birth Parish: St Pancras
Birth County: Middlesex
Document Year: 1914
Regimental Number: 1700
Regiment Name: Leicestershire Regt
Number of Images: 18


Gives his wife and 2 children
Percy William Frederick Wright 29/03/1909
Alfred Charles John Wright 14/03/1911

plus the same witnesses as on marriage with his marriage details to Mary Ann.

Percy Powley and Caroline Murphy.


He was in the Army in 1912 but discharged?

correct marriage already have but thankyou very much

yes he is called henry wright and deceased was a gun maker

1881

Percy?

WRIGHT, Henry Head Married M 24 1857 Gunmaker
Birmingham
Warwickshire
WRIGHT, Sarah Wife Married F 25 1856
St Pancras
Middlesex
WRIGHT, Henry W Son Single M 3 1878
St Pancras
Middlesex
>>>>>WRIGHT, Frederick J Son Single M 0 1881
St Pancras
Middlesex
RG number:
RG11 Piece:
177 Folio:
87 Page:
33

Registration District:
Pancras Sub District:
Regent's Park Enumeration District:
Ecclesiastical Parish:

Civil Parish:
St Pancras Municipal Borough:
Address:
106, Stanhope St, St Pancras County:
Middlesex

thats funny because on my grandfathers marriage certificate he if called percy william frederick wright,on my grandfathers birth certificate he is called percy charles wright,on his marriage certificate he is called percy wright,some hav esaid maybe he was called william,but something does not at up why change his details did they not look into things back then

1891

WRIGHT, Henry Head Married M 34 1857 Gun Barrel Maker
Birmingham
WRIGHT, Sarah Wife Married F 35 1856
St Pancras
London
WRIGHT, Henry W Son Single M 13 1878 Scholar
St Pancras
London
WRIGHT, Frederick J Son M 9 1882 Scholar
St Pancras
London
Percy>>>WRIGHT, Perry Son M 7 1884 Scholar
St Pancras
London
WRIGHT, Gertrude Daughter F 2 1889
West Hampstead
London
RG number:
RG12 Piece:
1044 Folio:
23 Page:
48

Registration District:
Hendon Sub District:
Willesden Enumeration District:
Ecclesiastical Parish:
St Andrews

Civil Parish:
Willesden Municipal Borough:
Address:
2, Garfield Buildings, Chelmsford Terrace, Willesden County:
Middlesex

People often changed their names about for various reasons and their birth places and also thier birth years.
Often because they couldnt remember,a lot were illiterate back then and going on the handwriting on WW1 records Percy/Frederick wasnt to good at writing etc.

omg fanny where did you get that info that is fantastic,can you show me how to veiw it is there pictures of percy,and why did my grandad say his dad name was his brothers name i heard percy left my grgran and they children ended up in a home with nuns maybe granddad did not want anything to do with his dad percy was murdered many years later by his step son.

His ww1 records are on Ancestry,but you will not find pictures of him.

Census will be on there too of course,but I was using Find My Past for it.


I do think this is the correct family as it has correct father and occupation for him,but which child he is will take some sorting out I think.

I am tired now but will have another look tomorrow.

But the occupation for Henry is what made it easier to search.

This is the birth of the Percy on 1891 census I believe.

Births Jun 1884
Wright Percy Pancras 1b 107



Fan

if that is henry percy father where is percy on the list born in 1879,or is it looking more like some porky pies been going on

This Henry is a carman and corn merchant, but all the names are "familiar":

1901 England Census
about Ellen Wright
Name: Ellen Wright
Age: 37
Estimated birth year: abt 1864
Relation: Wife
Spouse's name: Henry
Gender: Female
Where born: Chelsea, London, England

Civil parish: Chelsea
Ecclesiastical parish: St Luke
County/Island: London
Country: England

Registration district: Chelsea
Sub-registration district: Chelsea, South
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 312
Household Members: Name Age
Henry Wright 49
Ellen Wright 37
Frederick Wright 19
Ellen Wright 15
Charles Wright 14
Edward Wright 12
Arthur Wright 10
Walter Wright 18 (is 8)
Percy Wright 19 (is 9)
Alfred Wright 8
Robert Wright 3/12

The Frederick is the right age to be the one with the Powley family in 1911, but Percy is only 9, methinks he could have lied on marriage so as to be closer to Mary Ann's age.

EDIT, not the same family as Fanny has found. This Henry is born Northampton too.

EDIT probably the wrong family.