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I do know his parents names from the Census/ marriage cert. James on the Census was born in Liverpool/ Lancashire. Warrington is in Cheshire.
I have gone through my life explaining the same thing about how my name is spelt but pronounced Vicki Lol
Sally
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I,ve found this !!!!
James Mainwaring
Age:
11
Estimated Birth Year:
abt 1860
Relation:
Son
Father's name:
Richard Mainwaring
Mother's name:
Mary Mainwaring
Gender:
Male
Where born:
Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Civil parish:
Everton
Ecclesiastical parish:
St Timothy
County/Island:
Lancashire
Country:
England
Registration district:
West Derby
Sub-registration district:
Toxteth Park
91
Page Number:
21
Household Members:
Name
Age
Richard Mainwaring
35
Mary Mainwaring
30
James Mainwaring
11
Richard Mainwaring
8
John Mainwaring
6
Thomas Mainwaring
3 Months
Now my point is if this is the family I cant find birth reg for any children ...but have all the baptisum records ....including a Margaret Ellen Mainwaring .......
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Yes i have that one!.......Dont recall a Margaret Ellen though????
Seems strange that there are no birth reg for any of the children!
Thankyou Sally
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Prehaps it was just a pattern..thats all
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Because i wont beable to get a birth certificate i have now drawn a blank. I have these names and all the Census except 1891.
I only wanted to comfirm mothers maiden name, James Mainwaring is my GGrandfather they seem to be the only Mainwarings in Liverpool!
Thankyou all for your help
Sally
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Warrington may be in Cheshire NOW,but between 1837 and 1974 it was in Lancashire...
WARRINGTON REGISTRATION DISTRICT
Registration County : Lancashire.
Created : 1.7.1837.
Sub-districts : Latchford, Newton in Makerfield, Rixton, Sankey, Sankey & Winwick, Warrington, Warrington First, Warrington Second, Winwick.
GRO volumes : XX (1837–51), 8c (1852–1946), 10F (1946–74).
Registers now held by : Warrington and St. Helens.
Table 1: List of Places in Warrington Registration District
Civil Parish
County
From
To
Comments
Burtonwood
Lancashire
1837
1934
See Table 2, note (h).
Croft
Lancashire
1933
1934
Created 1.10.1933 out of the parishes of Southworth with Croft, Culcheth, and Woolston with Martinscroft. See also Table 2, note (h).
Cuerdley
Lancashire
1837
1934
See Table 2, notes (f) and (h).
Golborne
Lancashire
1837
1845
See Table 2, note (b).
Grappenhall
Cheshire
1845
1895
See Table 2, notes (a) and (c).
Great Sankey
Lancashire
1837
1934
See Table 2, note (h).
Haydock
Lancashire
1837
1934
See Table 2, note (h).
Houghton Middleton & Arbury
Lancashire
1837
1933
Abolished 1.10.1933 and incorporated into the parish of Winwick.
Kenyon
Lancashire
1837
1845
See Table 2, note (b).
Latchford
Cheshire
1845
1889
In 1889 the part of the parish of Latchford within the borough of Warrington became part of Lancashire. In 1894 the part remaining in Cheshire became the separate parish of Latchford Without, so that thereafter Latchford was wholly in Lancashire. The parish was abolished 30.9.1898 and incorporated into the parish of Warrington. See also Table 2, notes (a) and (d).
Cheshire and Lancashire
1889
1894
Lancashire
1894
1898
Latchford Without
Cheshire
1894
1895
Created 1894 from the rural part of the parish of Latchford. See also Table 2, note (c).
Little Sankey
Lancashire
1894
1896
Created 1894 out of the parish of Warrington. Abolished 9.11.1896 and re-incorporated into the parish of Warrington.
Newton in Makerfield
Lancashire
1837
1934
See Table 2, note (h).
Penketh
Lancashire
1837
1934
See Table 2, note (h).
Poulton with Fearnhead
Lancashire
1837
1934
See Table 2, note (h).
Rixton with Glazebrook
Lancashire
1837
1934
See Table 2, notes (e), (g) and (h).
Southworth with Croft
Lancashire
1837
1933
Abolished 1.10.1933 and incorporated into the parishes of Croft and Winwick.
Thelwall
Cheshire
1845
1895
See Table 2, notes (a) and (c).
>>>Warrington
>>Lancashire
>>>1837
>>>1974
>>>See Table 2, note (i).
Winwick
Lancashire
1933
1934
Created 1.10.1933 out of the parishes of Winwick with Hulme, Houghton Middleton & Arbury, and Southworth with Croft. See also Table 2, notes (h) and (j).
Winwick with Hulme
Lancashire
1837
1933
Abolished 1.10.1933 and incorporated into the parish of Winwick.
Woolston
Lancashire
1933
1934
Created 1.10.1933 from the parishes of Woolston with Martinscroft and Culcheth. See also Table 2, note (h).
Woolston with Martinscroft
Lancashire
1837
1933
Abolished 1.10.1933 and incorporated into the parishes of Woolston and Croft. See also Table 2, note (j).
Table 2: Boundary Changes affecting Warrington Registration District
Date of Change
Note
Description of Change
Population transferred
21.10.1845
(a)
Gained the townships of Grappenhall, Latchford, and Thelwall, from Runcorn registration district. 3282 in 1841
22.11.1845
(b)
Lost the townships of Golborne and Kenyon to Leigh registration district. 1980 in 1841
1.7.1895
(c)
Lost the parishes of Grappenhall, Latchford Without, and Thelwall, to Runcorn registration district. 2194 in 1891
1.12.1896
(d)
Gained parts of the parish of Latchford (which until 9.11.1896 formed parts of the parishes of Appleton, Latchford, and Walton Inferior, from Runcorn registration district. 743 in 1891
1.10.1920
(e)
Gained parts of the parish of Rixton with Glazebrook (which until 1.4.1920 formed parts of the parishes of Partington and Warburton) from Bucklow registration district. 0 in 1911
1.3.1921
(f)
Lost part of the parish of Cuerdley (which became part of the parish of Widnes on 9.11.1920) to Prescot registration district. 46 in 1921
1.4.1934
(g)
Lost part of the parish of Rixton with Glazebrook (which became parts of the parishes of Lymm and Warburton on 1.4.1933) to Bucklow registration district. 0 in 1931
(h)
Lost the parishes of Burtonwood, Croft, Cuerdley, Great Sankey, Haydock, Newton in Makerfield, Penketh, Poulton with Fearnhead, Rixton with Glazebrook, Winwick, and Woolston, to Newton registration district. 44940 in 1931
(i)
Gained parts of the parish of Warrington (which until 1.4.1933 formed parts of the parishes of Grappenhall, Latchford Without, Stockton Heath, and Walton Inferior) from Runcorn registration district. 647 in 1931
(j)
Lost part of the parish of Woolston with Martinscroft (which became part of the parish of Thelwall on 1.4.1933) to Runcorn registration district. 0 in 1931
1.4.1954
(j)
Gained part of the parish of Warrington (which until 1.4.1954 formed part of the parish of Winwick) from Newton registration district.
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Didn't you read the info posted about an hour ago about there being no penalty until 1875 for NOT registering births?
You may have to accept that the birth simply wasn't registered.
And Warrington is not a County.....it's a town/reg'n district within the county of Lancashire
To find his mother's maiden name, just look on freebmd for a possible marriage for his parents...........based on the info you have about their births..................and those of their children
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1861 for INFO
Name: Richard Manaring
[Richard Mainwaring]
Age: 30
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1831
[1836]
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Mary Manaring
Gender: Male
Where born: Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Civil parish: Liverpool
Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Trinity
Town: Liverpool
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Registration district: Liverpool
Sub-registration district: Islington
ED, institution, or vessel: 35
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 60
Piece: 2696
Folio: 65
Page Number: 10
Household Members: Name Age
Richard Manaring 30
Mary Manaring 24 born IRELAND
James Manaring 2
In 1871 and 1881, Mary says she was born in Staffordshire (Burslem as per 1871)
In 1891, it was Liverpool................so take your pick!
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I thought you said the mother was Mary Doherty.
why dont you check other sources to find out if that is correct.....cor if you give up now you will never find something thats harder!!
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Buy this marriage cert....to check the man's occupation
Marriages Jun 1857 (>99%)
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Doherty Mary Liverpool 8b 451
Mainwaring Richard Liverpool 8b 451
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Lancsbmd confirms the marriage........
Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1857
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
MAINWARING Richard DOHERTY Mary Liverpool, Register Office or Registrar Attended Liverpool REG_LP/67/147
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Mary Doherty
Age:
4 MO
Estimated Birth Year:
abt 1841
Gender:
Female
Where born:
Lancashire, England
Civil parish:
Manchester
Hundred:
Salford
County/Island:
Lancashire
Country:
England
Street Address:
Occupation:
View image
Registration district:
Manchester
Sub-registration district:
Market Street
Neighbors:
View others on page
Piece:
573
Book:
7
Folio:
5
Page Number:
5
Household Members:
Name
Age
Thomas Doherty
25
Mary Doherty 20
Mary Doherty
4 MO
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Its all so confusing, The birth certificate i recieved for James Mainwaring born Warrington
His father John Mainwaring & mother Ann. His date of birth 23rd Oct 1858
In answer to your question Flick......Yes i did read the post!!!
People have been very helpful to me on here, and i thank them very much.
I read all the posts.
I have looked up marriage for Richard Mainwaring and found he married Mary Doherty. Also i have spoken to a relative of there youngest son William on GR.
Do you have any ideas as what to do next Kempina please???
Sally
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Order Thomas Mainwaring birth cert ...
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Births Dec 1870 (>99%)
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Mainwaring Thomas W. Derby 8b 362
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Thomas would be 3 months old on the 1871 census which this birth will be right for him..
It will confirm the parents names and mother's maiden name.
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Yes Sue it will comfirm for Thomas, but not James???
Thomas isnt on any other Census after 1871
Sally
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Mary Doherty was born in Staffordshire......Kempina
Sally
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Hi Gwyn
Yes he is the son of Richard Chairmaker
It said he was the son of Richard Mainwaring & Mary Doherty.
That is why i would like to get birth cert to comfirm
You put this on page one where did you get this from?
have you got the marriage certificate of these people
get certificate for the child that can be found listed above
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Who told you that? and Salford is near Staffordshire ...in those days ...I know they havent moved it but many couldnt rtead or write let alone know where they came from
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I got their names from Baptism records.
On the Census it says Staffordshire!
All i want is to know that the James i have is my James???
I dont have marriage cert for Richard & Mary, wanted to get Birth cert for James 1st.
Sally
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So how many brothers and sisters has he got
check them against the records
get Thomas certificate
and yes you will NEVER EVER EVER know for total sure its the right james ........but if you dont try you will never know if it is
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