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Wondered if the mothers name might help find Andrews death


Australia Marriage Index, 1788-1950
Name: Robert Howard Byers
Spouse Name: Annie Todd
Marriage Place: Victoria
Registration Place: Victoria
Registration Year: 1880
Registration Number: 4266

I think that the 1921 marriage in NSW is a red herring. There was an Andrew Joseph Byers born in Victoria in 1895, I'm leaning towards that marriage being his.

The ER records I found are for an Andrew JOSEPH and Evelyn May Byers.

I think the tree owner on Ancestry may have accepted the marriage hint as a match without verifying.

Although the birth year is a little out, I think this death is worth checking:

England & Wales, Death Index: 1916-2006
Name: Andrew Byers
Birth Date: abt 1882
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1956
Age at Death: 74
Registration district: York
Inferred County: Yorkshire West Riding
Volume: 2d
Page: 745

Baptism of a daughter:

West Yorkshire, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1910
Name: Beatrice Myrtle Byers
Birth Date: 1 Jul
Parish: Marsden, St Bartholomew
Baptism Date: 29 Aug 1909
Father's Name: Andrew James Byers - a dyer
Mother's Name: Beatrice Gladys Byers

Living at Low Mount

You might be right MC and heres us casting aspersions on poor Beatrice!


England & Wales, Death Index: 1916-2006
Name: Beatrice G Byers
Birth Date: abt 1883
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1959
Age at Death: 76
Registration district: Huddersfield
Inferred County: Yorkshire West Riding
Volume: 2b
Page: 646

.. and another:

West Yorkshire, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1910
Name: Gwendoline Byers
Birth Date: 12 May 1908
Parish: Marsden, St Bartholomew
Baptism Date: 18 Jul 1908
Father's Name: Andrew Byers
Mother's Name: Gladys Byers

Living 8 Hard End, Marsden

I think Hazel should definitely get Beatrice's death cert to see who informant was and if anything on marital status.

The two daughters that I've posted baptisms for are on the 1911 census, which states that they'd had 3 children but only two living. This must be the little mite that died:

West Yorkshire, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1910
Name: Ruby Byers
Birth Date: 20 Sep 1906
Parish: Rashcliffe
Baptism Date: 29 Sep 1906
Father's Name: Andrew James Byers - labourer
Mother's Name: Beatrice Gladys Byers

Living Victoria Road.


England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index: 1837-1915
Name: Ruby Byers
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1906
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1906
Age at Death: 0
Registration district: Huddersfield
Inferred County: Yorkshire West Riding
Volume: 9a
Page: 244

Hi Hazel

I hadnt realised that you hadnt replied on here (when I saw your pm)

Im sure you have pmd MC but could you post on here so that we can see what you think of the info we have found....MC has been a little star


........is there a 'sick' emoticon ;-)

No, haven't had a pm :-(

Gins, now don't be nice or I'll get worried!

EDIT: Received pm (wonderful photos!) have asked Hazel for her comments on here re: info found.

OK....MC has been PANTS



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Hi everyone,
Thanks for all the information.
I will share with Guy my contact in Sydney.

In a nutshell is like this..............
Andrew Byers British Army 1906
Andrew Byers married to Beatrice G. Hamer 16th April 1906 Huddersfield uk
Ditto Eveylin M. Mudie 1921 Australia
I am also checking with Gary - the address in Walker Street sounds familier. Its in one of emails somewhere and had a quick look but will confirm

I am going away to Paris early tomorrow so all this is a bit hurried as in the middle of packing etc.
Thanks Hazel.

Hazel - NO!! the marriage to Evelyn Mudie should be ignored, I added a later post to say that it appeared to be the marriage of an Andrew JOSEPH Byers.

My suspicion is that Andrew stayed in England. Will look more into finding a death.

Have a lovely time!

I am beginning to think he was a bit of a lad - the marriage cert. does not say anything about Australia. On the l911 census it has a comment : British subject by parentage - is this a mistake by the enumerator what are your feelings as a lot of other stuff seems to add up.

Hazel

Thanks for putting me right. Hazel.

I did see your post it about Andrew Joseph Byers - didn't realise I was on the 2nd page of notes - you can see I need training - hope this does not give away my age ;-) The old grey cells need sharpening this morning. I am getting the hang of this now - I think!

Were Andrews parents British?

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Australia Death Index, 1787-1985
Name: Robert Howard Byers
Death Date: 1944
Death Place: New South Wales
Father's Name: Robert Howard
Mother's Name: Annie
Registration Year: 1944
Registration Place: North Sydney, New South Wales
Registration Number: 26485


There are three possible matches on ScotlandsPeople for a birth for the above

Another thought and you may find interesting.
If you type into Google Byers of pei and Joseph Robinson - Wikipedia
Family storey about black jack came from Jamaica and Amelia from Virginia. This is all prior to Edward and Susannah. Gary sent me a photo of Amelia but I could not open it.
All this is what got me interested in the first place.

I think the family were from Canada, but I'm thinking British Commonwealth ....

Theres a tree at Ancestry but boy have they got the lines muddled!

The death record matches the information from Gary.

This is a comment on Gary's notes:
"not sure about the names on NSW-BDM marriage records, as I could not find anything for Edward Byers and Susannah McCulgan , only when I printed out (E.Burgess and S.Culgan) the date of l843 would be correct ( the NSW.BDM No. is
V1843179676/1843) Also tried contacting Scots church in Sydney regarding their marriage records - no reply the marriage date being l8th December 1843. Scotts Presbyterian Church Sydney."

Another comment was that they apparently held church services in their house.
Really still need to find out the occupation of Robert H.Byers Senior

If you can think of anything I need to ask Gary about please do make a suggestion.

Hazel. Packing - what packing !!!!