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What do you get when you cross an insomniac, an agnostic and a dyslexic?



Someone who stays up all night wondering it there is a dog. :-D

Oh dear. I was inviting you.

Forget it, ignore it and take into account that the written word can often be misinterpreted by the reader, which is rather the point of this whole thread. The reader of something often puts their own interpretation on it, a bit like the bible and the koran in a strange way. Quite a good example, if I say so myself!

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or--------- a poor use of language

Feel

1.
to perceive or examine by touch.
2.
to have a sensation of (something), other than by sight, hearing, taste, or smell: to feel a toothache.
3.
to find or pursue (one's way) by touching, groping, or cautious moves.
4.
to be or become conscious of.
5.
to be emotionally affected by: to feel one's disgrace keenly.
EXPAND
6.
to experience the effects of: The whole region felt the storm.
7.
to have a particular sensation or impression of (often used reflexively and usually followed by an adjunct or complement): to feel oneself slighted.
8.
to have a general or thorough conviction of; think; believe: I feel he's guilty.
COLLAPSE
verb (used without object)
9.
to have perception by touch or by any nerves of sensation other than those of sight, hearing, taste, and smell.
10.
to make examination by touch; grope.
11.
to perceive a state of mind or a condition of body: to feel happy; to feel well.
12.
to have a sensation of being: to feel warm.
13.
to make itself perceived or apparent; seem: How does it feel to be rich?

Thats like speaking in braille to me. Sorry, we are on different planes. I dont understand what you are getting at.

What is the significance of various dictionary definitions of the word 'feel'? Sorry for being slow.

Hi Renes ~~~~~~


I enjoy differing viewpoints too Eldrick my friend............I always find it exhilerating to stand up for what I believe in - it keeps me on my toes too.. :-D

Hi ya Cyns

It amazes me how when a person uses words for example

-- a perfect example to prove my point :


and when you raise an alternative comment - its

- I do not know what you mean :

my kids always did that, now I come to think of it !!






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Heres a one for you, then.

By any definition, I am a heretic, a blasphemer and I deny the holy spirit, in triplicate and with bells on if necessary. I am emancipated, freed of the shackles of belief. I do not believe in any god and I do not believe in jesus or mohammed other than accepting that they may have existed but are neither prophets or anything other than normal human beings.

So, what is my fate? I have not been struck by lightning, visited by a plague of frogs or bitten by a serpent. I am free to eat what I want, when I want, wear what I want, not have bits of my body cut off, don't have to pray or worship anything or anyone, can sleep with who I want and think what I want. I have no fears of retribution in either this life or whatever awaits me afterwards. I am no better and no worse than anyone else on this planet, I am kind to people and animals, I give to charity and have been responsible for a number of acts that have bettered the lives of those less fortunate than me. Mr average.

But I deny the holy spirit and the existence of god, jesus, allah and mohammed. For those reasons, there are many who would still, in this day and age, see me dead, beheaded or horribly tortured then ritually killed. OK, perhaps not in this country, but certainly in some parts of the world.

So what is my fate according to current christian doctrine? Just asking, thats all

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As for books on theology......wow......there are thousands......where does one start and yes, there have always been translation difficulties. Hebrew/Greek/Aramaic/Latin/English......such a cocktail!


And as for the bible itself.......there are so many different versions available today - from those that suit scholars and theologians to those which have been published in an easier reading form. I quite like the Good News version myself but I think that maybe it's time for me to have another look round.....



Just thought of something Eldrick....

When that young footballer collapsed on the field a few weeks ago, there were loads of messages urging people to pray for him. It made me wonder how football fans who are atheists handled that request??

Renes

Are you seriously criticising my use of the English language? Seriously?

In a debate about religion, you are criticising the way I use language? Well, if you really want to travel that route.......

I look forward to it! :-D :-D :-D :-D

Edit: Cyn, regarding the young footballer, I had a thread up about that. My feelings about it are well known, but I am sure atheist fans would do as I did. Nothing. But place their trust in the expertise of the medical staff.

As I said then, I believe that praying is selfish and pointless, as if it is gods will, then who am I, you or anyone else to try to influence him to change his mind when some little boy in africa is dying of a curable illness but hasn't got anyone to pray for him. Not that I for one moment believe in prayers, but the principle is, for me, so wrong on so many levels.

Feel Free

and may the force be with you !!

Ah, It makes sense now. I wondered how long it would take, lol.

Look at that......we double posted........ :-D :-D


The main thing that strikes me about your last comment Eldrick is your use of the word 'I', sort of 'me' 'me' 'me'. Maybe it's time to look in another direction. :-D



Current Christian doctrine? There is no current Christian doctrine. It's been the same for over 2,000 years my friend. Those who live with Christ, die with Christ. Those who don't........don't. But it's not for us to judge so I couldn't possibly comment on your fate ...... I don't believe in Crystal balls you see...... ;-)

Dear All

OY!!!

Who has pinched my post???

It is a very nice post, peaceful not at all rude.

I want it back.

Best wishes
Elizabeth
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Who on earth reported Elizabeth of Seasons post????!!!!!!

Now I didn't think anything on here could surprise me any more but that is truly beyond belief!

Elizabeth, I read the post... there wasn't one thing in it to warrant a report, there never is in your posts, they are always gentle... I think the world's gone mad :-0

Why has that post been deleted? What did it say?



Hey Eldrick.....I see you have trust in the surgeons etc......and yet you have never met them :-D :-D


That little boy in Africa will have someone praying for him........but how do you solve the problem of the corrupt officials, governments and people who are blocking aid, syphoning money and generally contributing to the massive problems faced by their people?? :-S


So many probs are caused by we humans.......but God gets the blame....

Eldrick I can see what's going to happen can't you?


Someone is going to RR this thread cos it 'offends' them.......if that happens.....well, it's been fun and, no doubt, we will meet again....


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Elizabeth

just repost it


then we can all see it

I hope it isn't RRd. It is interesting to share views and listen to and respect the views of others. The dreaded 'offended' word seems to be used too freely.

Yes, Cynthia, why do people pray if it is God's will? Why allow medics to intervene if it is God's will? I have never understood the contradiction.

As a caring human being, I hope, I would have wished with all my heart and will for the young man to pull through.

No, I never met the surgeons. But I know that they have been trained and I have seen surgeons and doctors practising their art. I know that an awful lot of science is involved and I know what science is and what science requires. So yes, I would put my trust in a surgeon. What would you rather hear if you were lying in a car wreck? The sound of 'let the doctor through' or 'It's ok, we are all going to pray'. Unfair, possible, but pertinent!

Im not blaming god for the little african boy - how could I! You are dead right, the blame is elsewhere. But if there was a god........he chooses to save a footballer but not a little boy? Hmmm. He didnt save the little jewish girl either, who was murdered the same week as the footballer collapsed. Took his eye off the ball a bit there, I think. Didnt see the Belgian schoolchildren either. But he saved a footballer. How many children have died of cancer in the last month? But he saved a footballer. Some prayers are better than others it seems.

Yeah, I agree, someone is being silly. Why pick on Elizabeth after the things I've said is beyond me! ** I deny the holy spirit**

Maybe he is just a bad shot.....?

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