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I am new to this website and am finding navigating around very difficult.
Could anyone please tell me the email address for the support team, and also whether parish records are in a separate section(I paid extra on my subscription for parish records).

Thanks in anticipation.

John F Wilson

E-mail address for Support is:-
[email protected]

Welcome to GR John.

The results for parish records will appear when you search B,M or D.
As no one sites holds all available on-line PR, there are other free sites you can also check.

https://familysearch.org/
http://www.freereg.org.uk/
http://www.ukbmd.org.uk/online_parish_clerk

Always make an internet search for Parish records + the county/parish

The email address for support is
[email protected]

Where are the Parish records?

You’ll find the Parish Records under the ‘Births, Marriages & Deaths’ link on the left hand side of the dropdown ‘Search’ menu.

Parish Baptisms can be found under the ‘Birth and Baptism’ category on the left hand side of the page, Parish Burials under ‘Deaths and Burials’ and Parish Marriages under ‘Marriages and Divorces’. Clicking on the relevant link will give you a list of all the records we have for that record set.

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/help/faqs?key=435
..............

The internal link to send a message to support is a hyperlink here
http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/help/faqs?key=433

(its probably on other FAQ pages as well)

Many thanks for everyones quick replies.
The problem I have been having is finding records of my grandfather.
I have found him in the 1901 census which gives his DOB as 1876 and place of birth as Ashington Durham Staindrop which doesn't make sense. However I know from other family members that the family came from Staindrop, yet I cannot find any record of John Wilson with these birth details.
Does this mean I should try other web sites for additional records.
Thanks in anticipation.

John F Wilson

Just for ref is it this one you are looking for?

1891 England Census about John Wilson
Name: John Wilson
Age: 16
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1875
Relation: Son
Father's Name: George Wilson
Mother's name: Catherine Wilson
Gender: Male
Where born: Staindrop, Durham, England
Civil Parish: Staindrop
Ecclesiastical parish: Staindrop
Town: Staindrop
County/Island: Durham
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Teesdale
Sub registration district: Staindrop
ED, institution, or vessel: 12
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 4079
Folio: 113
Page Number: 18
Household Members:
Name Age
George Wilson 50
Catherine Wilson 41
William Wilson 18
John Wilson 16
George Wilson 14
Mary Wilson 13
Harry Wilson 11
Alice Wilson 8
Margaret Wilson 6
Thomas Wilson 1

Record Transcription
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1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census
First Name JOHN
Last Name WILSON
Birth Year 1876
Age 25
Birth Town Staindrop
Birth County Durham
Birth Place England
Relationship To Head of Household SON-IN-LAW
Gender Male
Occupation PLASTERER
Condition MARRIED
Street
Parish HARTLEY
Town SEATON SLUICE
City
County Northumberland
Country ENGLAND
Ecclesiastical District DELAVAL OUR LADY
Enumeration District 12
Municipal Ward
Parliamentary Borough WANSBECK
Registration District TYNEMOUTH
Category Census, Land & Surveys
Record set 1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Collections from Great Britain
Archive Reference RG13
Folio 52
Page 24
Piece Number 4809


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On that 1891 census the image has John William and George as surname Smiles

The marriage of mother Catherine Smiles to George was after the birth of John so he should be reg as Smiles not Wilson?

Marriages Dec 1877 (>99%)

Smiles Catherine Teesdale 10a 338
WILSON George Teesdale 10a 338

This one is the right district

Births Dec 1874 (>99%)

SMILES John Teesdale 10a 335 ( covers Staindrop)

1881 England Census about John Smiles
Name: John Smiles
Age: 6
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1875
Relationship to Head: Son in Law
Gender: Male
Where born: Staindrop, Durham, England
Civil Parish: Staindrop
County/Island: Durham
Country: England
Street address: Southside (73 Black Swan Inn)
Education:

Employment status:

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Occupation: Scholar
Registration district: Teesdale
Sub registration district: Staindrop
ED, institution, or vessel: 13
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 4932
Folio: 41
Page Number: 6
Household Members:
Name Age
George Wilson 39
Catherine Wilson 29
William Smiles 8
John Smiles 6
George Smiles 4
Mary Wilson 3
Thomas Wilson 1

Hi john,
information in any Census is not always 100% accurate, it depends on what is known by whoever fills the schedule in.

Usually a member of the household or a relative or, even one of the parents children could do the honour's and fill in the relative schedule.
They were not filled in by an Enumerator knocking on your door,he just collected the completed papers and collated and copied the info into book form.

There are so many more factors that have to be taken into consideration many untruths and some forgetfulness come into the equation.
But its fun working the truth out. (if you can) :-)

I am amazed and very grateful at how quickly I received replies about my Grandfather.
A lot of information to take in which I need to study and digest.
I assume you are using additional web sites other than Genes Reunited.
Thanks again.

John F Wilson

Are you sure of your facts there, Budgie Rustler? I understood that the 1911 census was the first one that the householder was asked to fill in themselves. Up until that time I believe that the enumerator did indeed come to the door and ask the questions mainly because a great percentage of the population were illiterate.

SMILES John 1875 Teesdale 10a 335.?

Johns birth,

The Smiles children appear to be stepchildren of G Wllson.

Marriage.

Smiles Catherine 1877 Teesdale 10a 338.
Wilson George 1877 Teesdale 10a 338.

Up to c1901 the census was indeed filled out by the enumerator. That is why the handwriting for a page is all the same even though a page may include several households. In c1841-71 a good chunk of the population were illiterate.

Hi Margee ,
Yes I`m certain about the comments I made to John about who filled in the schedule at an occupancy.

I think once the enumerator had checked them and copied/transcribed them into his book they (the schedules) were probably destroyed, and they were the "original" census forms.

The enumerators book ie the digitized ones you see on line are transcribed copies of the original schedule forms.

Yes, there was something different about the 1911 Census, I think maybe the "original" 1911 schedule forms are being kept/stored/digitized maybe all three I don't really know on that count. :-)

At least one person on this thread is using census transcripts from Ancestry, but they would basically be the same as on GR.

The Birth and Marriage is from the free site http://www.freebmd.org.uk/
Again, the index will be on GR.

Different members have access to different subscription sites - originally GR didn't have any records hence the longer serving members tend to rely on Ancestry for research.
No one site has all available on-line records. One person's subs compliments another's. ;-)

You only have to work out how much time he would have to spend at some ones abode before travelling to the next abode to realise how it would be too time consuming for one person to do.

All the enumerator did was collect the filled in schedules from each house. And the rest was done back at the office so as to speak. :-)

I`m sure if you do some googling you`ll find out if I am right or wrong.
If you do find I`m wrong, I will stand corrected.

I don't know which one of us has to stand corrected, Budgie Rustler.

From this site:
http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/education/resources/19th-century-people/

Everyone in Great Britain is counted on the same night. We fill in our own census forms today, but in Victorian times a census enumerator called at every house and filled in the census forms for them.

And from this site:
http://www.sog.org.uk/learn/help-getting-started-with-genealogy/guide-four

Schedules were taken round to each household in advance and details of all the people in the house on census night were filled in by the householder. The forms were then collected by the census enumerator, who might also have to assist in recording details if the householder had difficulty in doing so

Hi Margee seems that the NA are being a little contradictory... :-S

From 1841 to 1901 a census schedule was completed for each household, and was then collected by the enumerator who copied the information into an enumeration book. It is these enumeration books that we consult today online and on microfilm.

http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/records/research-guides/census-returns.htm

Also piccie from 1851 showing "head of house" filling in Census schedule

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/keepsafe/asset/details/10295713