General Chat

Well if the OP hadn't used his name on GR we wouldn't be spreading the subject would we?

You can't have it both ways.

Without the police releasing suspects' names how will victims be encouraged to come forward. The historic reports to the police and other authorities that appear to have been buried all add to the chain of events. Rarely do abusers act only once, the multiple reports, if proved, means there is a case to investigate.

Scandle wouldnt get spread if no one bought newspapers,,,,,,,,,,,rubbish,,,,,,,,we live in a hi tec society and if you want to block all released news media then you'd have to close down each and every electronic news station in the world to stop them reporting items released by the police which they feel is in the publics best interest,,,,,,,,,!! and the reasons behind that in cases like this is to bring forward any more allegations that are being kept in a dark place or proving information that can disprove allegations,,,,,,,,,..........news in news papers is old by the time of going to press,,,,,,,, :-D,,,,,,,

very true Kay :-)

yep the days of leaning over the garden fence are over...........

I was reading this last night,, but didn't rejoin to post then when my thoughts were more coherent unfortunately but several things I wanted to add

Obviously all accusations should be followed up with impunity, ie no intervention by the the powers that be...this applies to all classes, professions, commoner and king alike.

Not everyone who says they have been abused is telling the truth ( one of those naming names is a dubious witness imo...given that he has contradicted himself and 'may' be something of a fantasist. I am not into conspiracy theories but I can see inconsistencies in what he has written /reported etc.)

Any investigation previously dropped should be looked at again, but until it is and is properly investigated, anyone named is still innocent until proven guilty. If found guilty then of course anyone involved should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law..including anyone found responsible for a cover up or perverting the course of the investigation.

I didn't much like Ted Heath, certainly not his politics, but that doesn't mean I should assume guilt based only on personal antipathy which is sometimes the case I think?

And let's not forget in this country, one is innocent until proven guilty.

This is in the Yorkshire newspapers this morning, there is an enquiry going on into it

"The former Prime Minister is known to have spent time with Leeds-born DJ Savile and ice cream company boss Jaconelli, who between them abused dozens of children in the seaside town."

you hardly think of Heath and Saville having any sort of relationship now would you

Well they did...

http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/main-topics/general-news/yorkshire-police-probe-ted-heath-links-to-savile-and-paedophile-ex-mayor-1-7390283

People find friends in the strangest places Ann


Especially if they are strange to begin with ;-) ;-)

Had not heard about the Jaconelli individual before.

allegedly?????

in my youth, I had came into contact briefly with the Krays, but doesn't make me a criminal....does it?

I can't find any evidence to substantiate that he was "known to have spent time with Savile". Where? When?

All I can find is that heath was on Jim'll Fix It once.

http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/main-topics/general-news/yorkshire-police-probe-ted-heath-links-to-savile-and-paedophile-ex-mayor-1-7390283

Well time will tell if it is all true

What did it then Bob?

So he shook hands with one bloke during an election campaign. That's all they have?

Very worrying that the press have run away with this. How can the police sort out truth from speculation now?

That newspaper report may relate to a complaint made against the 3 individuals (as a whole), Savile, Heath and a Jersey States Minister (unnamed at the time) in the 1970s which was not acted upon.

The person who reported was a female witness who spoke with both police and another senator who she has named.

they must know something or else they could be in trouble for intimating that Heath had something to do with them, i know Jaconelli was just as bad as Saville, they were best friends .Jaconelli ran an ice cream business in Scarborough

That's just it, though, Stella. They won't be in trouble. You can't libel the dead. Very irresponsible.