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Hi,
I am hoping someone can help me by finding Susan Forrest, her Great Grand Mother was Agnes Ross and married Andrew Simpson in Edinburgh, 1917, this is Agnes 2nd marriage. Unfortunately I don't have Susan's parents or Grand Parents names.

Ann Benson

I assume by "searching" you mean you want to contact her.

Do you know where and when Susan was born?

How do you know who her g-grandparents were, if you don't know who her parents and grandparents were?

Unfortunately it's not possible to use the mother's maiden surname as a search term when looking for births later than 1854 on Scotland's People website, and therefore it's not possible to identify Agnes & Andrew's children.
I'm assuming they continued to live in Scotland.

Simpson and Ross are very common names.

There were a few Andrew & Agnes Simpson couples living in the Edinburgh area in 1921, but as I don't know "your" couple's ages, I don't know which might be them (if any).

There are a number of Simpson children aged 0-4 in Edinburgh in 1921 - but none of them seem to be in the same households as the Andrew/Agnes couples.

No help with Susan - but in case you're interested . . . .

Agnes's death :

SIMPSON [ also listed as ROSS and MILNE ]
AGNES
90
mmn EADIE
F
1974
746 / 179
Newington


If so, this is her birth:

ROSS
AGNES
mmn EADIE
F
1883
685 / 2 / 1162
St Andrew (Edinburgh)

I don't see her first marriage, if it was in Edinburgh, but she's listed as both Ross and Milne at her marriage to Andrew Simpson in 1917.

Is Forrest her maiden name?

When and where do you think she was born?

Have you done ANY research?

Is she related to you?

Hi,
I am sorry that I am a bit sketchy regarding Susan. I contacted her regarding a Andrew Simpson, he is my tree, have done a lot of research on the Simpson family, however my relation has a sibling so they are brothers. Susan's has only given me her Great Great Grand Parents and Great Grand Parents names. I have downloaded a few certificates which verify we do have a link. I have contacted Susan through Genes, but she hasn't opened her messages. Now I am trying to contact her by letter, I have tried Electoral Roll via Genes nothing is standing out.

I am assuming she was born in Edinburgh around the 1950's, I am going into Edinburgh next week, will look at the records hopefully get some answers.

Thanks everyone for your replies.

Ann

There is a Susan on GR who has Agnes Ross 1883 in her tree, but the surname isn’t Forrest………..

It would appear that the same Agnes is also in another member’s tree

A Susan Forrest (with a middle name which I won't post here) married a man with the other surname mentioned by ErikaH, in Edinburgh in 1980.

She was born 1959 Edinburgh.

However, even IF that's the right person, there's no way to know her parents' names without buying a copy of her birth cert - or looking at it in Edinburgh when you go there.

IF her middle name is her mmn, that still isn't a lot of help.
The only feasible couple marrying in Scotland would have been one in Glasgow in 1959 - but having delved into those people as much as I can, back to their possible grandparents, I don't see any Ross or Simpson connection - though I don't know the bride's mmn without buying certs.
The groom was probably born in England - if so, his parents were both born in England, and their mothers were not Simpsons or Rosses.

ADDED:
Re the 1959 bride (for whom it was a second marriage):
her father was born in 1901, in Falkirk, mmn Leith.
Her mother was born in 1907 in Camlachie, mmn Wilson
Therefore nothing to do with Agnes and Andrew.

Agnes Ross is in 15 trees on Ancestry.

The only child of Agnes and Andrew listed in any of the public trees is Margaret Adie Simpson 1920, who married a Rafferty in 1940.

None of Agnes's children with her first husband married anyone named Forrest.

If Susan is a great-grandchild, one of her parents would have been Agnes's grandchild.

The first husband's children would be unrelated, if the connection between Susan and OP is Simpson

FMP tree created by SusanKa133 (Last active over a year ago) suggests the following

Agnes Ross
Gender Female
Birth 5 Dec 1883
Edinburgh, Midlothian

Marriage
31 MAR 1905
3 St John Street, Edinburgh

Spouse Thomas Milne

Children from this marriage
David Ross,
ELIZABETH,
Thomas

Living status
Deceased
14 Mar 1974
17 Moredun Park Road, Newington, Edinburgh

Name Thomas Milne
Gender Male
Birth 10 Jun 1878
Edinburgh

Marriage
31 MAR 1905
3 St John Street, Edinburgh

Spouse Agnes Ross

Children from this marriage
David Ross
ELIZABETH
Thomas

Living status
Deceased
28 Jun 1915
Gallipoli
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ELIZABETH Milne
Gender Female
Birth
14 Jun 1905

Deceased
16 Apr 1974

EDIT
Scotlands People
Surname MILNE
Forename ELIZABETH
Mother's Maiden Name ROSS
Gender F
Year 1905
Ref
685 / 5 / 568
RD Name
Newington
____________________________________________________________________
THOMAS Milne
Gender Male
Birth
1 Feb 1909

Deceased
9 Jun 1997

EDIT
Surname MILNE
Forename THOMAS
Mother's Maiden Name ROSS
Gender M
Year 1909
Ref 685 / 3 / 184
RD Name
Canongate

____________________________________________________________________

David Ross Milne
Gender Male
Birth 20 Nov1914
Edinburgh, Scotland

EDIT
Surname MILNE
Forename DAVID ROSS
Mother's Maiden Name ROSS
Gender M
Year 1914
Ref 685 / 5 / 820
RD Name
Newington


Marriage
1 Jun 1936
Westfield Hall, Edinburgh

Spouse Isabella skirving Thomson

Children from this marriage
Carol

Living status
Deceased
2 May 1993
Edinburgh
______________________________________________________________

CAROL Milne
Birth
3 Sep 1948

Deceased
23 Mar 1996
________________________________________________________________

There is a RESTRICTED sibling of Carol listed with the following spouse
EDIT- Sibling would appear to be MARGARET MILNE
See Obituary for Norma Beattie

Name
Alastair Wright Forrest
Gender Male
Birth 5 Oct 1935
Edinburgh, Midlothian, Scotland

Marriage
07/06/1958
Children from this marriage
Norma Margaret


Deceased
22 May 2015
Edinburgh


______________________________________________________________
Norma Margaret has + 2 RESTRICTED siblings
EDIT 2 Restricted Siblings would appear to be Susan and Ian
See Norma Beattie Obituary

Name
Norma Margaret Forrest
Gender Female
Birth 27 Oct 1962
246, Gorgie, Road, Edinburgh, Midlothian, Scotland

Deceased
7 Jun 2020
st Johns Hospital, livingston, West Lothian, Scotland


______________________________________________________________________________
There is only one other listing -referring to the grandchild of one of Norma's siblings
It reads
Name Madeline Rutherford
Gender Female
Birth 07 Jun 2019
Edinburgh

Deceased

Quick Google search

BEATTIE Norma Margaret
(nee Forrest) (Currie)
Suddenly but peacefully, at St John's Hospital, Livingston, on June 7, 2020, Norma (Pupil Support Assistant at Corstorphine Primary School), loving mum of Nicholas and Christopher, wife of Neil, much loved daughter of Margaret and the late Alastair and sister of Susan and Ian.

Published by Edinburgh News on Jun. 12, 2020

https://www.legacy.com/uk/obituaries/edinburghnews-scotsman-uk/name/norma-beattie-obituary?id=42315686

Scotlands People
Surname MILNE
Forename MARGARET SKIRVI
Spouse Surname FORREST
Spouse Forename ALASTAIR WRIGHT
Year 1958
Ref 685 / 1 / 471
RD Name Haymarket

Scotlands People

Surname MILNE
Forename DAVID ROSS
Spouse Surname THOMSON
Spouse Forename ISABELLA SKIRVI
Year 1936
Ref 685 / 1 / 149
RD Name Haymarket

SusanKa133 tree lists the following results

Agnes Ross
Gender Female
Birth 5 Dec 1883
Edinburgh, Midlothian

Marriage
31 MAR 1905
3 St John Street, Edinburgh

Spouse THOMAS MILNE

Scotlands People lists this wedding
Surname ROSS
Forename AGNES
Spouse Surname MILLAN
Spouse Forename THOMAS
Year 1905
Ref 685 / 3 / 65
RD Name Canongate

Similar sounding surnames spelling is different ????

I note this because the FMP listing then reads

Name Thomas Milne
Birth 10 Jun 1878
Edinburgh

Spouse Agnes Ross

Children from this marriage
David Ross
ELIZABETH
Thomas

Deceased
28 Jun 1915 *************
Gallipoli *************

So I have had a look on FOLD3
It appears to be a WO 363 Burnt Document

Thomas MILNE 2365
5th Royal Scots
26 Watson Crescent Edinburgh

NOK Mrs Milne 13 Watson Crescent, Edinburgh

Later entry reads that any medal awards should be passed to

***********Widow - Mrs Jane R Milne*************

a further record records their children
George Milne 9th? Feb 1911
Isobel 9th May 1912
Thomas 28th Sept 1913
Mary Jane 24th March 1915

and his death is recorded as

GALLIPOLI 28 JUNE 1915

So after all that can we safely say Agnes Ross did not marry a Thomas Milne who died at Gallipoli 28 June 1915, as they were never married???

Observations and comments welcomed

Any yes, I am aware that Gallipoli had a "few" of the lads posted there during WW1.
Haven't yet found a Thomas Millan who died on Gallipoli 28 June 15 with an Agnes Ross as a wife.

Agreed.
Agnes Ross did not marry anyone named Milne, but lived with him as his wife and used his name, per her marriage to Andrew Simpson.

ADDED:
I was curious enough to view the 1917 marriage cert.
Agnes claims to be a widow, and calls herself Agnes Milne - but disappointingly there's no useful detail about Mr Milne.

1911 census:

MILNE, AGNES
1911
F
28
685/3 45/ 10
Canongate
Midlothian

She's with Thomas 31, Elizabeth 5, Thomas 2, Catherine 8, Julia 0.


Looking at births - Julia Ann 1910, Elizabeth 1905, Thomas 1909 - but I don't see Catherine's birth - not as Ross or Milne - at least not with mmn stated.

Just a possibility - there's a Catherine Ross born in Leith in 1903, with no mmn given.

AG

How old was Andrew Simpson in 1917, please?

Susan Forrest has a tree on Ancestry. Now called Susan Kay.

Further details to follow