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ArgyllGran
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24 Oct 2024 14:12 |
Thanks, Jink.
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Jink20
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24 Oct 2024 00:35 |
AG
FYI
UK, Royal Marines Campaign Medal Rolls, 1914-1920 Full Name Simpson, Andrew Nationality British Rank Name Private Service Number Deal/8417/S Service Royal Marines Branch royal marine labour corps *********
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Jink20
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24 Oct 2024 00:31 |
I have been in contact with Ann, who has given me her permission to send a message inviting Susan Kay, on Ancestry, to contact her.
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ArgyllGran
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23 Oct 2024 23:37 |
Scotland's People does not recognise Millan as a "fuzzy match" for Milne, so the 1905 marriage doesn't show up unless you know to search specifically for Millan, or enter Mil*.
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ArgyllGran
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23 Oct 2024 23:32 |
To answer ErikaH's specific question :
in 1917 Andrew was 38, coal carter, widower, Private No 8417 R M C L(?) Parents: John (tailor, deceased ) and Elizabeth (nee Henderson).
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Ann
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23 Oct 2024 23:04 |
Hi, He is the right Andrew.
Thanks.
Ann
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Jink20
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23 Oct 2024 22:29 |
EH Susan Kay Ancestry tree has Andrew Simpson listed as
Andrew SIMPSON 1878–1944 Birth 5 SEP 1878 • 21 Blair Street, Edinburgh Death 3 AUG 1944 • Dumbiedykes Road, Edinburgh
Marriage Andrew SIMPSON 1878–1944 21 AUG 1917 8 Bank Street, Edinburgh
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Ann
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23 Oct 2024 22:25 |
Agnes Ross married Thomas Millan/Milne 1905, Canongate, Gros number 685/3/65, the surname was misspelt.
Sorry for the long delay in replying - I don't use this site normally. My great grandmother was married to Andrew Simpson - he was her second husband as her first husband - Thomas Milne - my great grandfather died in Gallipoli in 1915. so we may have a half connection. My grandfather was David Milne.
The 2nd paragraph is from Susan on the 26/8/2024, I contacted Susan last year, I was pleased she got back to me, but still waiting on her opening her message.
Andrew Simpson born 1878 had a sister Margaret born 1887, she married James McColgan 1919, Edinburgh, it is Margaret and James 2nd marriage, James McColgan is my husbands Great Grand Father.
Thank you for all the information regarding the Ross/Milne family, I will follow it up when I am in Edinburgh.
Ann
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Jink20
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23 Oct 2024 22:12 |
Susan Forrest has a tree on Ancestry. Now called Susan Kay.
Further details to follow
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ErikaH
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23 Oct 2024 21:24 |
AG
How old was Andrew Simpson in 1917, please?
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ArgyllGran
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23 Oct 2024 19:29 |
1911 census:
MILNE, AGNES 1911 F 28 685/3 45/ 10 Canongate Midlothian
She's with Thomas 31, Elizabeth 5, Thomas 2, Catherine 8, Julia 0.
Looking at births - Julia Ann 1910, Elizabeth 1905, Thomas 1909 - but I don't see Catherine's birth - not as Ross or Milne - at least not with mmn stated.
Just a possibility - there's a Catherine Ross born in Leith in 1903, with no mmn given.
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ArgyllGran
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23 Oct 2024 19:04 |
Agreed. Agnes Ross did not marry anyone named Milne, but lived with him as his wife and used his name, per her marriage to Andrew Simpson.
ADDED: I was curious enough to view the 1917 marriage cert. Agnes claims to be a widow, and calls herself Agnes Milne - but disappointingly there's no useful detail about Mr Milne.
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Jink20
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23 Oct 2024 17:19 |
So after all that can we safely say Agnes Ross did not marry a Thomas Milne who died at Gallipoli 28 June 1915, as they were never married???
Observations and comments welcomed
Any yes, I am aware that Gallipoli had a "few" of the lads posted there during WW1. Haven't yet found a Thomas Millan who died on Gallipoli 28 June 15 with an Agnes Ross as a wife.
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Jink20
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23 Oct 2024 17:05 |
SusanKa133 tree lists the following results
Agnes Ross Gender Female Birth 5 Dec 1883 Edinburgh, Midlothian
Marriage 31 MAR 1905 3 St John Street, Edinburgh
Spouse THOMAS MILNE
Scotlands People lists this wedding Surname ROSS Forename AGNES Spouse Surname MILLAN Spouse Forename THOMAS Year 1905 Ref 685 / 3 / 65 RD Name Canongate
Similar sounding surnames spelling is different ????
I note this because the FMP listing then reads
Name Thomas Milne Birth 10 Jun 1878 Edinburgh
Spouse Agnes Ross
Children from this marriage David Ross ELIZABETH Thomas
Deceased 28 Jun 1915 ************* Gallipoli *************
So I have had a look on FOLD3 It appears to be a WO 363 Burnt Document
Thomas MILNE 2365 5th Royal Scots 26 Watson Crescent Edinburgh
NOK Mrs Milne 13 Watson Crescent, Edinburgh
Later entry reads that any medal awards should be passed to
***********Widow - Mrs Jane R Milne*************
a further record records their children George Milne 9th? Feb 1911 Isobel 9th May 1912 Thomas 28th Sept 1913 Mary Jane 24th March 1915
and his death is recorded as
GALLIPOLI 28 JUNE 1915
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23 Oct 2024 15:48 |
Scotlands People
Surname MILNE Forename DAVID ROSS Spouse Surname THOMSON Spouse Forename ISABELLA SKIRVI Year 1936 Ref 685 / 1 / 149 RD Name Haymarket
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23 Oct 2024 15:36 |
Scotlands People Surname MILNE Forename MARGARET SKIRVI Spouse Surname FORREST Spouse Forename ALASTAIR WRIGHT Year 1958 Ref 685 / 1 / 471 RD Name Haymarket
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23 Oct 2024 14:35 |
Quick Google search
BEATTIE Norma Margaret (nee Forrest) (Currie) Suddenly but peacefully, at St John's Hospital, Livingston, on June 7, 2020, Norma (Pupil Support Assistant at Corstorphine Primary School), loving mum of Nicholas and Christopher, wife of Neil, much loved daughter of Margaret and the late Alastair and sister of Susan and Ian.
Published by Edinburgh News on Jun. 12, 2020
https://www.legacy.com/uk/obituaries/edinburghnews-scotsman-uk/name/norma-beattie-obituary?id=42315686
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23 Oct 2024 14:26 |
FMP tree created by SusanKa133 (Last active over a year ago) suggests the following
Agnes Ross Gender Female Birth 5 Dec 1883 Edinburgh, Midlothian
Marriage 31 MAR 1905 3 St John Street, Edinburgh
Spouse Thomas Milne
Children from this marriage David Ross, ELIZABETH, Thomas
Living status Deceased 14 Mar 1974 17 Moredun Park Road, Newington, Edinburgh
Name Thomas Milne Gender Male Birth 10 Jun 1878 Edinburgh
Marriage 31 MAR 1905 3 St John Street, Edinburgh
Spouse Agnes Ross
Children from this marriage David Ross ELIZABETH Thomas
Living status Deceased 28 Jun 1915 Gallipoli --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ELIZABETH Milne Gender Female Birth 14 Jun 1905
Deceased 16 Apr 1974
EDIT Scotlands People Surname MILNE Forename ELIZABETH Mother's Maiden Name ROSS Gender F Year 1905 Ref 685 / 5 / 568 RD Name Newington ____________________________________________________________________ THOMAS Milne Gender Male Birth 1 Feb 1909
Deceased 9 Jun 1997
EDIT Surname MILNE Forename THOMAS Mother's Maiden Name ROSS Gender M Year 1909 Ref 685 / 3 / 184 RD Name Canongate
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David Ross Milne Gender Male Birth 20 Nov1914 Edinburgh, Scotland
EDIT Surname MILNE Forename DAVID ROSS Mother's Maiden Name ROSS Gender M Year 1914 Ref 685 / 5 / 820 RD Name Newington
Marriage 1 Jun 1936 Westfield Hall, Edinburgh
Spouse Isabella skirving Thomson
Children from this marriage Carol
Living status Deceased 2 May 1993 Edinburgh ______________________________________________________________
CAROL Milne Birth 3 Sep 1948
Deceased 23 Mar 1996 ________________________________________________________________
There is a RESTRICTED sibling of Carol listed with the following spouse EDIT- Sibling would appear to be MARGARET MILNE See Obituary for Norma Beattie
Name Alastair Wright Forrest Gender Male Birth 5 Oct 1935 Edinburgh, Midlothian, Scotland
Marriage 07/06/1958 Children from this marriage Norma Margaret
Deceased 22 May 2015 Edinburgh
______________________________________________________________ Norma Margaret has + 2 RESTRICTED siblings EDIT 2 Restricted Siblings would appear to be Susan and Ian See Norma Beattie Obituary
Name Norma Margaret Forrest Gender Female Birth 27 Oct 1962 246, Gorgie, Road, Edinburgh, Midlothian, Scotland
Deceased 7 Jun 2020 st Johns Hospital, livingston, West Lothian, Scotland
______________________________________________________________________________ There is only one other listing -referring to the grandchild of one of Norma's siblings It reads Name Madeline Rutherford Gender Female Birth 07 Jun 2019 Edinburgh
Deceased
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ErikaH
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23 Oct 2024 12:44 |
If Susan is a great-grandchild, one of her parents would have been Agnes's grandchild.
The first husband's children would be unrelated, if the connection between Susan and OP is Simpson
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ArgyllGran
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23 Oct 2024 12:23 |
Agnes Ross is in 15 trees on Ancestry.
The only child of Agnes and Andrew listed in any of the public trees is Margaret Adie Simpson 1920, who married a Rafferty in 1940.
None of Agnes's children with her first husband married anyone named Forrest.
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