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My Great Grandmother was born Emma Jane Searle in 1867 in the area of Crediton, Devon. Her Mother was born in 1837, also inCrediton andcalled Jane Dadd before her marriage but that's all I know.
I cannot find any record of Emma's birth and have drawn a complete blank in trying to track her father and any siblings.
Strangely, Emma does not appear on any Census prior to her marriage.
If anyone can help me unearth any of her kin I would be very grateful.
Thank you
Jenny

Emma Searles Compact Disc #78 Pin #58898 Pedigree
Sex: F

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Event(s)
Birth: 21 Feb 1830

Crediton, Devon

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Parents
Father: Edward Searles Disc #78 Pin #58897
Mother: Ann Upright Disc #78 Pin #58780

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Notes and Sources
Notes: None
Sources: None

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Submitter
Jim UPRIGHT
#10 - 4041 Saanich Rd, Victoria, BC, V8X 1Z2, Canada

Is this Emma's birth?

Births Jun 1867
Searle Emma Jane Crediton 5b 442

and on the 1881 census?

Francis SEARLE Head M Male 48 Crediton, Devon, England Coachman (D)
Jane SEARLE Wife M Female 45 Crediton, Devon, England
Emma J. SEARLE Daur U Female 14 Crediton, Devon, England Scholar
William SEARLE Son Male 10 Crediton, Devon, England Scholar


Dwelling Uppincott
Census Place Shobrooke, Devon, England
Family History Library Film 1341537
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 2231 / 131
Page Number 4

1881 census
Jane SEARLE Inmate (Head) M Female 41 Ermington, Devon, England Servant
Annie SEARLE Inmate (Daur) Female 14 Ermington, Devon, England Scholar
Elizabeth SEARLE Inmate (Daur) Female 11 Ermington, Devon, England Scholar


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Source Information:
Institution "Union Workhouse"Underwood Plympton St Mary
Census Place Plympton St Mary, Devon, England
Family History Library Film 1341526
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 2187 / 89
Page Number 25


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1881 census

Thomas SEARLE Head M Male 60 Totnes, Devon, England Hair Cutter
Irene SEARLE Wife M Female 42 Dodbrook, Devon, England
Jane D. SEARLE Dau Female 7 Dodbrook, Devon, England
Ann ALLEN Serv W Female 40 Dodbrook, Devon, England Cook Domestic
Minnie NUTE Serv Female 24 Bristol, Somerset, England General Serv Domestic
Jane NUTE Visitor Female 71 Abbotskerswell, Devon, England


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Source Information:
Dwelling Paignton Rd Greta
Census Place Tormoham, Devon, England
Family History Library Film 1341522
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 2167 / 29
Page Number 54


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Jane Searle Compact Disc #126 Pin #705171 Pedigree
Sex: F

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Event(s)
Birth: 15 Apr 1685

Ottery, St. Mary, Devon, England
Christening: 15 Apr 1685

Ottery, St. Mary, Devon, England

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Parents
Father: Edward Searle Disc #126 Pin #705256
Mother: Jane Flea Disc #126 Pin #705257

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Marriage(s)
Spouse: Samuell Austine Disc #126 Pin #705074
Marriage: 17 Apr 1715
, Totnes, Devon, England


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Notes and Sources
Notes: None
Sources: None

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Submitter
Joan NORMAN
4931 Swenson Rd Deer Park WA 99006

1871 England Census
about Emma J Searle
Name: Emma J Searle
Age: 4
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1867
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Francis
Mother's Name: Jane
Gender: Female
Where born: Crediton, Devon, England
Civil Parish: Crediton
Town: Crediton
County/Island: Devon
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability:

View Image
Registration district: Crediton
Sub registration district: Crediton
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 118
Household Members:
Name Age
Elizabeth Searle 7
Emma J Searle 4
Francis Searle 38
Frank Searle 10
Jane Searle 36
William Searle 2 months

nudge for Jennifer

1891 England Census
about Emma Searle
Name: Emma Searle
Age: 24
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1867
Relation: Attendant
Gender: Female
Where born: Crediton, Devon, England

Civil Parish: Exminster
Ecclesiastical parish: Exminster
Town: Exminster
County/Island: Devon
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation: Attendant

Condition as to marriage: Single
Registration district: St Thomas
Sub registration district: Kenton
ED, institution, or vessel: Devon County Lunatic Asylum

She appears on the list of people who slept at the Asylum on the night of April 5th 1891.

Her fathers Christening

FRANCIS SEARLES Pedigree
Male
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Birth:
Christening: 21 JUL 1833 Crediton, Devon, England

Parents:
Father: JOHN SEARLES Family
Mother: SARAH

Siblings of Francis Searle all by the parents of John and Sarah accept 3 who is born to a Jhn Searle and Jane.

1. GEORGE SEARLE - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 20 APR 1829 Crediton, Devon, England

2. HENRY SEARLES - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 20 NOV 1831 Crediton, Devon, England

3. MARIA SEARLS - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 24 APR 1803 Crediton, Devon, England

4. MARY SEARLES - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 09 MAR 1817 Crediton, Devon, England

5. WILLIAM SEARLE - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 16 OCT 1814 Crediton, Devon, England

6. JOHN SEARLE - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 18 MAR 1821 Crediton, Devon, England

7. THOMAS SEARLES - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 18 DEC 1835 Crediton, Devon, England

8. SAMUEL SEARLE - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 30 SEP 1827 Crediton, Devon, England

9. SARAH SEARLES - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 17 JAN 1819 Crediton, Devon, England

10. ANN SEARLE - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 08 MAR 1823 Crediton, Devon, England

11. JAMES SEARLE - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 15 JUN 1824 Crediton, Devon, England

12. FRANCIS SEARLES - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 21 JUL 1833 Crediton, Devon, England

John and Sarah's wedding

JOHN SEARLE Pedigree
Male Family
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Marriages:
Spouse: SARAH REEVES Family
Marriage: 11 APR 1814 Crediton, Devon, England

On the 1861 census Francis and Jane are living at High St Crediton and his occupation is Inn Keeper they have Frank at 10 months old with them.

1861 England Census
about Francis Searle
Name: Francis Searle
Age: 29
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1832
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Jane
Gender: Male
Where born: Crediton, Devon, England

Civil Parish: Crediton
County/Island: Devon
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View Image

Registration district: Crediton
Sub registration district: Crediton
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 11
Household Members: Name Age
Jane Bergoin 15 Servant
James Cramp 42 Lodger
Francis Searle 29 1832 Crediton, Devon
Frank Searle 10 Mo 1860 Crediton, Devon
Jane Searle 25 1836 St Thomas, Devon,

1841 England Census
about John Searle
Name: John Searle
Age: 45
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1796
Gender: Male
Where born: Devon, England

Civil Parish: Crediton
Hundred: Crediton
County/Island: Devon
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation: View Image

Registration district: Crediton
Sub registration district: Crediton
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
John Searle 45 1796 Devon
Mary Searle 50 1791 Devon
Henry Searle 10 1831 Devon
Frances Searle 8 1833 Devon
Thomas Searle 5 1836 Devon

Looks like the mother could have been Mary and then John remarried????????

Can you give us the details of Emma's marriage?

selena

Jenny has been in touch with me Selena. Here is what she wrote

Dear Melanie,
I did not know that Jane Dadd's husband was called Francis but I do know for certain that she was the mother of my great grandmother - Emma Jane Elston (nee Searle.)
I am trying to find further 'Searle' and 'Dadd' relatives but am coming up against a blank wall when looking through official records ....... I also know that Emma Jane had siblings but have not discovered them either. When Emma Jane married she lived at Sharpy Farm, Shobrook; her mother lived there with them too. My Grandmother, Ethel Joyce Elston, Great Uncle, Benjamin Searle Elston and Great Aunt, Gertrude Amy Elston were born there too.
I would be very interested in any help you can give me as it sounds as though there is a connection with your relatives.
Regards,
Jenny

Dear Ann, Helen, Selena and Melanie,
Thank you all for your help.
Selena and Melanie have the right match for my Great Grandmother. I knew she worked in a Mental Hospital at some time; the 1891 Census confirmed it.
I'm afraid I do not yet know the details of her marriage to Benjamin John Elston but it must have been either 1893 or 94 and was probably at Shobrook. Benjamin was 4 years her junior; he had a Steam Threshing and Sawing business. When they first married they lived at Sharpey (Sharphay ?) Farm, Shobrook; Emma's Mother Jane lived there with them.
Their children were
Ethel Joyce b 1895 later married to Alfred John Mildon.
Benjamin Searle b 1899
Gertrude Amy b c1901
Neither Benjamin nor Gertrude ever married.
I am relatively new to searching the archives so am not yet 'au fait' with locating Parish Records, Birth and Wedding Certificates etc..
I hope what little information I have given is of use to you.
Thank you again,
Jenny
Cornwall.

Here is their marriage - getting the certificate will confirm who their fathers were

Marriages Dec 1893
Elston Benjamin Crediton 5b 835
Searle Emma Jane Crediton 5b 835

Certificates can be ordered online from the GRO for seven pounds using the above reference number.

There is no marriage on FreeBMD for Jane Dadd to Francis Searle. It appears that Francis Seale married Jane MILMAN.

Marriages Mar 1856
Millman Jane Crediton 5b 720
Searle Francis Crediton 5b 720

However Melanie found this interesting entry, which means that Jane Dadd could have married Richard Milman. Just conjecture at present.

Marriages Jun 1850
AYRE Ann Crediton 10 148
Blanchfield Ann Jane Crediton 10 148
Cork Edward Crediton 10 148
Dadd Jane Crediton 10 148
Galsworthy John Crediton 10 148
Milman Richard Crediton 10 148

Could Richard have died? Then Francis was Jane's 2nd husband, and of course her name upon her 2nd marriage would then be Jane Milman which is why we can't find a Dadd/Searle marriage.

Any thoughts?

An 1851 census look up would be useful, unfortunately I don't have ancestry but if anyone could find Richard and Jane it might help confirm whether they did actually marry each other.

Submitted entry on Familysearch so needs checking.

Jane Dadds
Birth: 1835 Exeter, Devon, England
Father: William Dadds
Mother: Catherine

Getting the marriage certficiate to Francis in 1856 will confirm her father.